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With each post Max continues to surprise us with his extreme stupidity and duplicity. Yeah, some pxtards say it is "incoming from the south" (for the past 25 years at least)and only telescopes in the extreme south can see it and others say it is near Orion. Some like Nancy claim both are true. ROFLMAO.
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Don't forget...it's also near the sun where it has been for the past 10 years.
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This video says Comet Elenin will pass Earth at only a distance of one quarter of the distance to the sun - or about 23 million miles. ZetaTalk is on record saying the least significant component of the Planet X Complex, will come no closer than 14 million miles. Since the orbit of objects (moons and trash) around PX probably extend out to about 5 million miles, then PX passes at 19 million miles from Earth - according to the Zetas.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

How is C/2010 X1 any more significant than any other comet, for instance, C/2007 W1 that passed Earth at about 0.21005, or 19,525,000 miles, in June of 2008?
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This video says Comet Elenin will pass Earth at only a distance of one quarter of the distance to the sun - or about 23 million miles. ZetaTalk is on record saying the least significant component of the Planet X Complex, will come no closer than 14 million miles. Since the orbit of objects (moons and trash) around PX probably extend out to about 5 million miles, then PX passes at 19 million miles from Earth - according to the Zetas.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

How is C/2010 X1 any more significant than any other comet, for instance, C/2007 W1 that passed Earth at about 0.21005, or 19,525,000 miles, in June of 2008?
 Quoting: Gazmik


If its TRULY a "comet" in the ordinary sense, then its not any more significant. But outside of NASA, and large observatories (which have largely been CLOSED to the public now for quite some time), no one knows for sure how big this thing is, or what constitutes it. In three months, any doubt will be dispelled.
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If its TRULY a "comet" in the ordinary sense, then its not any more significant. But outside of NASA, and large observatories (which have largely been CLOSED to the public now for quite some time), no one knows for sure how big this thing is, or what constitutes it. In three months, any doubt will be dispelled.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

The only people with doubts about it being anything but a comet are the fruitcakes that have tied their "Nibiru" fantasies to just another comet.

When C/2010 X1 passes uneventfully, what's next? Another comet? More lens artifacts in images of the Sun? More cosmic ray hits in SOHO images?
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By mid-summer we should know the true nature of Elenin. Have you given ANY thought to what you will say if it actually turns out to be Planet X in all it's fabled glory???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How does a comet go from being a "dirty snowball" in space to being a full fledged "water world" planet four times larger than Venus that's obscured by a "dust cloud" near the sun? Talk about grasping at straws.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Four times larger than Venus, but 28 times the mass - according to the "Zetas". Ironically, it could be a "water world" according to Clif's "Expando" planet theory. When a molten body cools enough to form a solid mantle, WATER is indeed one of the substances that can be created and start to accumulate on the surface. We appear to see that dynamic in action on Europa and perhaps Titan as well. We know Mars had water in its past. If the Earth has a plasma core, then in reality Earth TOO is a kind of BROWN DWARF - but much smaller and with a much smaller heat signature.

It's amazing how you just assume to KNOW everything!

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I explicitly said GOOD LOOK with amateur equipment.

Like I said - it's too early to know anything "for sure".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Sigh. Please define PRECISELY what you would accept is a "good look," in your oh-so-unique lexicon.

And they seem to know enough about it to accurately establish where it will be on any given night to LOOK...

[link to sydneystargazers.com]

Oh, and might you address my points at the end of the previous page? Thanks so much.
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If its TRULY a "comet" in the ordinary sense, then its not any more significant. But outside of NASA, and large observatories (which have largely been CLOSED to the public now for quite some time), no one knows for sure how big this thing is, or what constitutes it. In three months, any doubt will be dispelled.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

The only people with doubts about it being anything but a comet are the fruitcakes that have tied their "Nibiru" fantasies to just another comet.

When C/2010 X1 passes uneventfully, what's next? Another comet? More lens artifacts in images of the Sun? More cosmic ray hits in SOHO images?
 Quoting: Gazmik


We can revisit this question towards the middle of July, when "everyone" will be free of "doubts".

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But outside of NASA, and large observatories (which have largely been CLOSED to the public now for quite some time), no one knows for sure how big this thing is, or what constitutes it.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What, precisely, are you talking about regarding supposed closed-to-the-public observatories? Be specific, now.
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Did you watch the video?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Did you watch mine? Mine is every bit as true as yours is, and I found it on youtube, so that means it must be worth considering. I mean people only post true shit on youtube. Right?
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


link?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Oh, sorry. I should have remembered that you are too dumb to use the mouse to move back a page or two. It's a very interesting and educational piece from 1977 that supports your theory of a vast conspiracy against humanity led by scientists. When I saw it I was reminded of you.
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Four times larger than Venus, but 28 times the mass - according to the "Zetas".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Four times larger than the brightest thing in the night sky. Yet completely invisible.

28 times the mass, yet it has hovered between Earth and the Sun for *8* years, defying the most basic gravitational laws. And has had no measurable effect on the motions of any of the inner planets whatsoever.

When does this thing finally become improbable *enough* for you, ZM?

Would you believe, as I asked you years ago, that I have a dragon in my garage?
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We can revisit this question towards the middle of July, when "everyone" will be free of "doubts".
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You mean when the fruitcakes will be free of doubts about one comet? They will just continue on with their delusions. They will continue to believe that there is some evil entity out there coming to destroy us. They will just change the dates.
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I SHOULD have said 'brightest thing in the night sky other than the Moon...

Ah, well. Mea culpa.
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But outside of NASA, and large observatories (which have largely been CLOSED to the public now for quite some time), no one knows for sure how big this thing is, or what constitutes it.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What, precisely, are you talking about regarding supposed closed-to-the-public observatories? Be specific, now.
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Of course they won't say they're "officially" closed, but YOU or anyone else without the proper credentials/connections can get access to one. The excuse would be, with the curtailment of the space program, and the financial troubles of the universities, scope-time is simply "unavailable" to anyone but specific professionals and hand-picked grad students.
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I SHOULD have said 'brightest thing in the night sky other than the Moon...

Ah, well. Mea culpa.
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And you left out the Sun.

Oops! I missed "night" sky.

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We can revisit this question towards the middle of July, when "everyone" will be free of "doubts".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

You mean when the fruitcakes will be free of doubts about one comet? They will just continue on with their delusions. They will continue to believe that there is some evil entity out there coming to destroy us. They will just change the dates.
 Quoting: Gazmik


or "move the goal posts?" (Now you know why I wear a football cap)

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What, precisely, are you talking about regarding supposed closed-to-the-public observatories? Be specific, now.
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Of course they won't say they're "officially" closed, but YOU or anyone else without the proper credentials/connections can get access to one. The excuse would be, with the curtailment of the space program, and the financial troubles of the universities, scope-time is simply "unavailable" to anyone but specific professionals and hand-picked grad students.
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Ah. Your evidence for this is...?
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I SHOULD have said 'brightest thing in the night sky other than the Moon...

Ah, well. Mea culpa.
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And you left out the Sun.

Oops! I missed "night" sky.
 Quoting: Gazmik


LOL. THAT one I had thought of.
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What, precisely, are you talking about regarding supposed closed-to-the-public observatories? Be specific, now.
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Of course they won't say they're "officially" closed, but YOU or anyone else without the proper credentials/connections can get access to one. The excuse would be, with the curtailment of the space program, and the financial troubles of the universities, scope-time is simply "unavailable" to anyone but specific professionals and hand-picked grad students.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ah. Your evidence for this is...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Somebody somewhere on the net said so and lots of people repeated it, so it must be true. They even made youtube videos about it, so case closed, it has to be true. That's how Max finds the pieces of the puzzle that resonate with him. That's all the evidence Maxipads needs to form an opinion.
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Somebody somewhere on the net said so and lots of people repeated it, so it must be true. They even made youtube videos about it, so case closed, it has to be true. That's how Max finds the pieces of the puzzle that resonate with him. That's all the evidence Maxipads needs to form an opinion.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Some of us live in fascination of the universe around us and attempt to understand it, while Max chooses to live in fear of it.
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Max, why haven't you used me for so long?

Was I a bad sock puppet? Did I say something wrong?

Please sign in as me again! I'm soooooo bored, stuck here at this campsite with Elle!
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If its TRULY a "comet" in the ordinary sense, then its not any more significant. But outside of NASA, and large observatories (which have largely been CLOSED to the public now for quite some time), no one knows for sure how big this thing is, or what constitutes it. In three months, any doubt will be dispelled.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The name HypochondriMax really does suit you.
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Four times larger than Venus, but 28 times the mass - according to the "Zetas". Ironically, it could be a "water world" according to Clif's "Expando" planet theory. When a molten body cools enough to form a solid mantle, WATER is indeed one of the substances that can be created and start to accumulate on the surface. We appear to see that dynamic in action on Europa and perhaps Titan as well. We know Mars had water in its past. If the Earth has a plasma core, then in reality Earth TOO is a kind of BROWN DWARF - but much smaller and with a much smaller heat signature.

It's amazing how you just assume to KNOW everything!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I see you failed to answer the question. Typical.

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Just so ZM doesn't conveniently forget:


I think his (Astronut's) lies have caught up with him.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Was THIS tongue-in-cheek? Was this a joke, to you?

I'd really like to know. Or I'd like to see you apologize to him.
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He's not around to accept the apology.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Lovely excuse. Tell you what: pretend he *is* around. I look forward to your written apology.
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You'll be waiting a while so don't hold your breath.
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Four times larger than Venus, but 28 times the mass - according to the "Zetas". Ironically, it could be a "water world" according to Clif's "Expando" planet theory. When a molten body cools enough to form a solid mantle, WATER is indeed one of the substances that can be created and start to accumulate on the surface. We appear to see that dynamic in action on Europa and perhaps Titan as well. We know Mars had water in its past. If the Earth has a plasma core, then in reality Earth TOO is a kind of BROWN DWARF - but much smaller and with a much smaller heat signature.

It's amazing how you just assume to KNOW everything!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I see you failed to answer the question. Typical.

spin
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>> I see you failed to answer the question.

Huh? What exactly are you referring to?
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Try to keep up, Melfy.
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Huh? What exactly are you referring to?
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I asked you how a comet goes from being a "dirty snowball" in space to a "water world" planet four times larger than Venus that's shrouded in dust and hangs out near the sun. After all, that's what Nancy and the "Zetas" have been claiming about "Planet X" for nearly 10 years.
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This video says Comet Elenin will pass Earth at only a distance of one quarter of the distance to the sun - or about 23 million miles. ZetaTalk is on record saying the least significant component of the Planet X Complex, will come no closer than 14 million miles. Since the orbit of objects (moons and trash) around PX probably extend out to about 5 million miles, then PX passes at 19 million miles from Earth - according to the Zetas.

The four million mile "difference" in these estimates - ZetaTalk's PX versus Comet Elenin, is NEGLIGABLE in astronomical terms.

Seems Nancy has indeed been WARNING US ALL since 1995.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

on_way zetasbillb
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Ok, Melfy, once this comet Elenin comes and goes, LATER THIS YEAR, with NO doomsday event transpiring then the time HAS COME to place an indefinite BAN on your user ID from our glorious Debunkers Live Chat Thread.

You see Melfy your C_Little CLAIMS and moments of ASSERTION that specific and pending ASTRONOMICAL DOOM is about to take place, has to come to a basic END on our Debunkers thread. Especially those CLAIMS that reference NANCY LIEDER or her fictitious ETs as being CORRECT in THEIR MANY FAILED DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS SURROUNDING THE ROGUE PLANET "X". And your latest attempt at dishonesty before your fellow GLP posters is truly pathetic.

You know damn well that comet Elenin is NOT some fabled huge rogue planet which has come to cause a geographical poleshift to planet Earth. You reap what you sow eh Melfy.

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This video says Comet Elenin will pass Earth at only a distance of one quarter of the distance to the sun - or about 23 million miles. ZetaTalk is on record saying the least significant component of the Planet X Complex, will come no closer than 14 million miles. Since the orbit of objects (moons and trash) around PX probably extend out to about 5 million miles, then PX passes at 19 million miles from Earth - according to the Zetas.

The four million mile "difference" in these estimates - ZetaTalk's PX versus Comet Elenin, is NEGLIGABLE in astronomical terms.

Seems Nancy has indeed been WARNING US ALL since 1995.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

on_way zetasbillb
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Ok, Melfy, once this comet Elenin comes and goes, LATER THIS YEAR, with NO doomsday event transpiring then the time HAS COME to place an indefinite BAN on your user ID from our glorious Debunkers Live Chat Thread.

You see Melfy your C_Little CLAIMS and moments of ASSERTION that specific and pending ASTRONOMICAL DOOM is about to take place, has to come to a basic END on our Debunkers thread. Especially those CLAIMS that reference NANCY LIEDER or her fictitious ETs as being CORRECT in THEIR MANY FAILED DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS SURROUNDING THE ROGUE PLANET "X". And your latest attempt at dishonesty before your fellow GLP posters is truly pathetic.

You know damn well that comet Elenin is NOT some fabled huge rogue planet which has come to cause a geographical poleshift to planet Earth. You reap what you sow eh Melfy.

Loneranger
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Ban his lying ass now for a while so he knows what happens to lying, trolling sacks of shit.
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The word "estimate" is not of little "import". Hey - I hope it is a relatively tiny little dirty snowball. I'd rather go out and make a fortune and live the good life, rather than face a "Pole Shift" head on with little chance of personal survival.

Maybe after I buy Hap his steak, I can return home and FULLY focus on that agenda - something I find VERY hard to do at the moment.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The "dirty little snowball" is currently 1.8 AU from the Earth between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars. If, and that's a big if, it was of a supposedly "planet X" size (Nancy's claim of it's size) it would be occulting stars and quite easy to see with a telescope of moderate magnification.

For your education, which you sorely need, here are recent images of C2010/X1:

[link to www.aerith.net]
[link to www.aerith.net]
[link to www.aerith.net]

Note that the image of the comet shows it's coma.
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