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lim (OP) User ID: 1044919 United States 12/03/2010 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhhhh here we go again girls! Quoting: TaliTali you are right; I probably deserve my head to be chopped off much like xena did to that guy But I believe this country has a massive problem socially with the single life transitioning into marriage This is a big problem and we can be adults and discuss solutions and insight into this issue that needs to be answered. All the best; John For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? |
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lim (OP) User ID: 1044919 United States 12/03/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess I was lucky Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1080443My wife brings out the best in me. You are a lucky man I wish I was as lucky as you friend For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? |
lim (OP) User ID: 1044919 United States 12/03/2010 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Generalization..OP Quoting: ShaneSteelewe are all different...My wife is probably the greatest human being Ive ever met... and she is an American woman... so your posit fails... True we are generalizing; but we need to since this issue is brought up in personal cell conversations all the time; at the bars; I was at clarendon last night near DC and this topic came up... its unbelievable that we ( men and women ) have this problem and by we I mean not everybody including you; but a lot more of my friends; me included; are realizing this. Look at what I just emailed my wife which I'm separated from now for 2 months: Do you think we have this problem? If not tell me why Is it me being abusive and angry What attracted me to you? What about you attracted you to me? Behind every great man is a great woman. You know I want to be a great man; and I know I will before I am. I need a great woman. Are you a great woman? ... For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? |
Tali User ID: 1018633 United States 12/03/2010 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhhhh here we go again girls! Quoting: limTali you are right; I probably deserve my head to be chopped off much like xena did to that guy But I believe this country has a massive problem socially with the single life transitioning into marriage This is a big problem and we can be adults and discuss solutions and insight into this issue that needs to be answered. All the best; John Ohhhh okay... I'm not a feminist btw... The woman you are portraying though sounds like someone with a victim mentality....this does not affect only one gender. And really it comes down to trust issues like you say...I've been in a couple abusive relationships...one was physically abusive and the other was more mentally abusive...so yeah, I have gotten leary of some men...the good thing thoughh is I know the red flags, and I also know I have a weakness for "tough guys"...thank god though I am more experienced these days and can rely on my brains rather than my emotions concerning men. I would prefer a great friendship with the person I am going to marry rather than a huge lusty clusterfuck. ALSO...when a person is raised with parents who were abusive to eachother one tends to feel comfortable with those traits...ie, I ended up marrying a guy a lot like the way my dad was when I was younger (he's changed a LOT since then, thank god)... Anyway, the broad statements of American Women being so terrible kinda irks me...where have you been picking up women? Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Aileana User ID: 561062 United States 12/03/2010 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ultimately rather than recreate it its probably best i just wish you luck OP. sometimes its better to not contribute to these threads rather than have them turn out to be man/woman bashing threads. |
ShaneSteele User ID: 1173331 United States 12/03/2010 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Generalization..OP Quoting: limwe are all different...My wife is probably the greatest human being Ive ever met... and she is an American woman... so your posit fails... True we are generalizing; but we need to since this issue is brought up in personal cell conversations all the time; at the bars; I was at clarendon last night near DC and this topic came up... its unbelievable that we ( men and women ) have this problem and by we I mean not everybody including you; but a lot more of my friends; me included; are realizing this. Look at what I just emailed my wife which I'm separated from now for 2 months: Do you think we have this problem? If not tell me why Is it me being abusive and angry What attracted me to you? What about you attracted you to me? Behind every great man is a great woman. You know I want to be a great man; and I know I will before I am. I need a great woman. Are you a great woman? ... lol, Ive been to clarendon...what a shit hole? too small, dance floor too small...etc.. Unfortunately Men at the age of courtship are only thinking about ONE THING!!! Finding a women that: A. Looks hot B. Has perfect tits C. Will give sex after three dates Its NO wonder Women look at men like idiots and dogs.. If men were to remove their EGO's and DESIRE to have a barbie doll as a wife, but instead seek that female who's personality they match.. in all ways.. things would be alot better off...but most men dont have the experience or wisdom to do that.. so they end up dating someone that makes them horny... |
Tali User ID: 1018633 United States 12/03/2010 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.... My ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help. I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air. This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good. Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way... Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing? Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1084106 United States 12/03/2010 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | their seems to be a lot of these kinds of threads lately and i had a great big long post to reply but lost it because i'm so long winded and timed out. Quoting: Aileanaultimately rather than recreate it its probably best i just wish you luck OP. sometimes its better to not contribute to these threads rather than have them turn out to be man/woman bashing threads. :posieasd: thanks aileana |
anonanon User ID: 1182968 United Arab Emirates 12/03/2010 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a man is an abuser, either physically or emotionally, it is because he brings out the worst in himself. Such a man generally looks for someone who is easy to abuse. As for me, first sign of it in any form and I am gone. Most "great women" do the same and consider abuse in any form the deal-breaker. It is also true that most American men want sex too soon and are overly impressed by the barbie-doll and physical appearance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1112895 Canada 12/03/2010 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men have been brain washed about feminism, just as men believe women have been brainwashed by feminism. The original woman that you described would not be called a feminist, but someone who had been abused. This can apply to men or women. Abused people are emotionally fucked up, and create drama unconsciously because that is what they know of reality. Their bodies can become addicted to the drama and will allow "drama" peptides to dock in cells over proteins to help build the body. We all know people, both men and women, who have stayed with abusive partners. They were brought up with abuse and receate when they become adulats. ULESS they take steps to knw themselves, and to break the cycle. Men need to start getting to knw themselves, and stop projecting outswards onto women. Both men and women need to stop blaming the other for their problems. All problems and all solutions start with the self. Women have led the way on this path of self-insight in the past few decades. Yes, there are still some young women who have been brainwashed by Hollyweird (just as there are young men who have been brainwhased by porn.)But go to any group based on self-inquiry (eg: meditation, philosophical discussion, commenity groups, yoga even etc) and it is at least 80% women. Men seem to be having a harder time figuring out who they are, and how to change. This spiritual age that we are in is all about Know Thyself, and consciously evolving. ARe you doing that, or are you still going to the bar to drink and watch professional sports on tv. |
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Tali User ID: 1018633 United States 12/03/2010 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP 'angry feminists' usually do not get married. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112895Men have been brain washed about feminism, just as men believe women have been brainwashed by feminism. The original woman that you described would not be called a feminist, but someone who had been abused. This can apply to men or women. Abused people are emotionally fucked up, and create drama unconsciously because that is what they know of reality. Their bodies can become addicted to the drama and will allow "drama" peptides to dock in cells over proteins to help build the body. We all know people, both men and women, who have stayed with abusive partners. They were brought up with abuse and receate when they become adulats. ULESS they take steps to knw themselves, and to break the cycle. Men need to start getting to knw themselves, and stop projecting outswards onto women. Both men and women need to stop blaming the other for their problems. All problems and all solutions start with the self. Women have led the way on this path of self-insight in the past few decades. Yes, there are still some young women who have been brainwashed by Hollyweird (just as there are young men who have been brainwhased by porn.)But go to any group based on self-inquiry (eg: meditation, philosophical discussion, commenity groups, yoga even etc) and it is at least 80% women. Men seem to be having a harder time figuring out who they are, and how to change. This spiritual age that we are in is all about Know Thyself, and consciously evolving. ARe you doing that, or are you still going to the bar to drink and watch professional sports on tv. Oh I like you. Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1084106 United States 12/03/2010 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol, Ive been to clarendon...what a shit hole? too small, dance floor too small...etc.. Quoting: ShaneSteeleUnfortunately Men at the age of courtship are only thinking about ONE THING!!! Finding a women that: A. Looks hot B. Has perfect tits C. Will give sex after three dates Its NO wonder Women look at men like idiots and dogs.. If men were to remove their EGO's and DESIRE to have a barbie doll as a wife, but instead seek that female who's personality they match.. in all ways.. things would be alot better off...but most men dont have the experience or wisdom to do that.. so they end up dating someone that makes them horny... your right... natures cruel little trick... males peak sexually early 20s until mid to late 20s unfortunately females peak sexually anywhere from early 30s to late 30s. We are a decade apart us men and women; and unfortunately its the horndogs that are the problem The ones that stare into a young womans eye and can lie like the best politicians and then sleep with her and proceed to dump her The ones that are maneaters and jaded and have to wrap their hearts in spikes and tin foil and reinforce it with barbed wire... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 908163 United States 12/03/2010 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's okay to generalize when taking about large groups of people with common traits. The problems start though when this generalized thinking process gets utilized in a relationship between two individuals. One either stops listening or just does not care enough to really get to know the individual, so they try to approximate where the other person stands by this generalized thinking process. It's so pandemic in our society. ------ |
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lim (OP) User ID: 1084106 United States 12/03/2010 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.... Quoting: TaliMy ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help. I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air. This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good. Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way... Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing? Thanks Tai for your book suggestion and insight; I will download the book tonight at home Also; I would recommend a book called ' the five love languages ' it really helps out but it does not solve underlying personal issues For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? |
lim (OP) User ID: 1084106 United States 12/03/2010 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP 'angry feminists' usually do not get married. Quoting: TaliMen have been brain washed about feminism, just as men believe women have been brainwashed by feminism. The original woman that you described would not be called a feminist, but someone who had been abused. This can apply to men or women. Abused people are emotionally fucked up, and create drama unconsciously because that is what they know of reality. Their bodies can become addicted to the drama and will allow "drama" peptides to dock in cells over proteins to help build the body. We all know people, both men and women, who have stayed with abusive partners. They were brought up with abuse and receate when they become adulats. ULESS they take steps to knw themselves, and to break the cycle. Men need to start getting to knw themselves, and stop projecting outswards onto women. Both men and women need to stop blaming the other for their problems. All problems and all solutions start with the self. Women have led the way on this path of self-insight in the past few decades. Yes, there are still some young women who have been brainwashed by Hollyweird (just as there are young men who have been brainwhased by porn.)But go to any group based on self-inquiry (eg: meditation, philosophical discussion, commenity groups, yoga even etc) and it is at least 80% women. Men seem to be having a harder time figuring out who they are, and how to change. This spiritual age that we are in is all about Know Thyself, and consciously evolving. ARe you doing that, or are you still going to the bar to drink and watch professional sports on tv. Oh I like you. I think this is the solution. Right here. I'm going to counseling with my father to try and improve the self. Mind Body and Soul; all equal; always progressing :) For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? |
ShaneSteele User ID: 1173331 United States 12/03/2010 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | come on, women do the same thing, date guys that make them horny, people marry for sex and divorce not long after.. not a big surprise, sex is not enough to keep a relationship going. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1123488The above is spot on... having been married twice... At the risk of being burned at the stake here..hahaha.. The second time around, I got flat on my face and prayed to GOD to provide the best for ME! ..... shocking...HE DID!! After all Genesis says... It was not good for man to be alone,....... HE BROUGHT THE WOMAN TO THE MAN.... so my best advice...OP...watch for the women that great mystery brings to you...NOT WHAT YOUR EGO WANTS...its best to have a friend to grow old with....!! |