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Em18966 (OP) User ID: 46357440 United States 11/06/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. But is destroying a religious text you have no belief in, in a public school, in a secular nation, something that someone should be suspended for? What if he'd been suspended for ripping pages out of a Koran?? People would be furious. It's about the line between church and state and how much power public schools and their subsidiaries are given to indoctrinate impressionable students in a secular society. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49164253 United States 11/06/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. It's a COPY of a book. There are a gazillion other copies of the same book. It even belongs to him. Furthermore it's not a religious school and should not be supporting any particular religion. I'm a white male hetero, and I generally agree with what "Christians" say. But this is stupid. |
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Em18966 (OP) User ID: 46357440 United States 11/06/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. This is stupid, he should not have been suspended. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49164253 It's a COPY of a book. There are a gazillion other copies of the same book. It even belongs to him. Furthermore it's not a religious school and should not be supporting any particular religion. I'm a white male hetero, and I generally agree with what "Christians" say. But this is stupid. Yeah, this was my point. It's not like he was destroying school property. He tore up his own book and was suspended for it. Because it was a bible. A book some people find holy, which should have no bearing in a secular public school. I think the school crossed the line here. |
Judethz User ID: 47012985 United Kingdom 11/06/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Smith told the Star-Telegram, his classmates started bullying him in Spanish class by telling him he was going to hell for being gay. Quoting: Em18966 Well one things for sure, if he dies in his sins he will be going to hell. The bible makes it quite clear that homosexuals will not be in Heaven. UNINVITED... [link to www.chick.com (secure)] |
Frayed Knot User ID: 35406953 United States 11/06/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Why are kids allowed to discuss these personal issues during class time? from the article: '...discipline was due to “distraction and disruption in class by tearing up Bible in class.”' He was suspended for disrupting the class. Not for damaging a sacred book. End of story. Last Edited by Frayed Knot on 11/06/2013 12:42 PM I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot |
Em18966 (OP) User ID: 46357440 United States 11/06/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Smith told the Star-Telegram, his classmates started bullying him in Spanish class by telling him he was going to hell for being gay. Quoting: Em18966 Well one things for sure, if he dies in his sins he will be going to hell. The bible makes it quite clear that homosexuals will not be in Heaven. UNINVITED... [link to www.chick.com (secure)] Yeah, but if he's going to hell that's between him and whatever god there may be. It has nothing to do with his public school education. |
Em18966 (OP) User ID: 46357440 United States 11/06/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. If it was his property he should not have been suspended. Quoting: Frayed Knot Why are kids allowed to discuss these personal issues during class time? from the article: '...discipline was due to “distraction and disruption in class by tearing up Bible in class.”' He was suspended for disrupting the class. Not for damaging a sacred book. End of story. But how is tearing up a bible more distracting than telling someone they are going to hell for being gay? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24413414 United States 11/06/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. This is stupid, he should not have been suspended. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49164253 It's a COPY of a book. There are a gazillion other copies of the same book. It even belongs to him. Furthermore it's not a religious school and should not be supporting any particular religion. I'm a white male hetero, and I generally agree with what "Christians" say. But this is stupid. Yeah, this was my point. It's not like he was destroying school property. He tore up his own book and was suspended for it. Because it was a bible. A book some people find holy, which should have no bearing in a secular public school. I think the school crossed the line here. Yep. Church and state need to stay as far away as possible from each other. If it was occurring in the middle of class, and the teacher asked him to stop and he did not stop, than maybe the suspension is justifiable? He could have been tearing pages from the phone book and still he would have to stop when the teacher told him to. Regardless of any statement he was making, the middle of a classroom was prolly not the best place to do it. Why he would tear pages from his own book to prove a point isn't mentioned. If the classmates were claiming the bible said he was in sin, tearing the pages from the bible does not help his point in anyway. Isn't that like having a 20 page report about global warming. Someone shows you that on page 5 of the report your idea is in error. You don't like it and tear out page 5? That is not the way to go about a debate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49226255 United States 11/06/2013 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. But is destroying a religious text you have no belief in, in a public school, in a secular nation, something that someone should be suspended for? Quoting: Em18966 What if he'd been suspended for ripping pages out of a Koran?? People would be furious. It's about the line between church and state and how much power public schools and their subsidiaries are given to indoctrinate impressionable students in a secular society. Take all the social/religious context out of this - if he had ripped pages out of any book belonging to the school, that is vandalism. |
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Em18966 (OP) User ID: 46357440 United States 11/06/2013 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. But is destroying a religious text you have no belief in, in a public school, in a secular nation, something that someone should be suspended for? Quoting: Em18966 What if he'd been suspended for ripping pages out of a Koran?? People would be furious. It's about the line between church and state and how much power public schools and their subsidiaries are given to indoctrinate impressionable students in a secular society. Take all the social/religious context out of this - if he had ripped pages out of any book belonging to the school, that is vandalism. It didn't belong to the school - it belonged to him, he brought it from home. It was his book. He tore it up. And was suspended for it. Because it was a bible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28870413 Canada 11/06/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. But is destroying a religious text you have no belief in, in a public school, in a secular nation, something that someone should be suspended for? Quoting: Em18966 What if he'd been suspended for ripping pages out of a Koran?? People would be furious. It's about the line between church and state and how much power public schools and their subsidiaries are given to indoctrinate impressionable students in a secular society. Take all the social/religious context out of this - if he had ripped pages out of any book belonging to the school, that is vandalism. It didn't belong to the school - it belonged to him, he brought it from home. It was his book. He tore it up. And was suspended for it. Because it was a bible. Two wrongs don't make a right. Right? Hurting others feelings to justify your own hurt feelings only brings more hurt feelings. The grown up thing to do was to call the school board. |
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gamemasta User ID: 49544036 United States 11/06/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Sharing truth is not bullying. Quoting: sundayisnotthesabbath Stating what a book sais is not bullying. Warning someone of the danger of a certain behavior is not bullying. It's not sharing a truth, it's sharing an opinion. Using a book to be a shitbag is bullying. It's not warning someone if its an uneducated opinion, its using text to assert some idiotic supperioirty based on religion. Maybe this is too complex for you soapbox Christians to understand but people don't want your opinions, especially when you blindly herald it as fact. In the case of some adolesent teens using your book as a way to get at someone, yeah its bullying. You would be furious if it was a pack of Muslims taunting a Christian with a Koran. The fact is no one want religious nonsense forcibly in their face. All it comes down to is wanting to kick you between the legs so that the gene pool can be saved. Maybe if this were law we could finally have world peace. People keep their mouths shut so their points of view don't start pissing the wrong people off and their balls remain intact. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44148397 United States 11/06/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Shouldnt have been suspended, its his fucking book. The christ tards doing the bullying should have been suspended |
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BunBun User ID: 47029633 United States 11/06/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Telling the boy that it is a sin to engage in sodomy isn't bullying. The kid needs to know that there will be consequences should he continue on this course. It is an abomination to God that two men should have sex with each other. Christard and Lover of God |
Creepy-Ass Cracker User ID: 46695966 United States 11/06/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Sharing truth is not bullying. Quoting: sundayisnotthesabbath Stating what a book sais is not bullying. Warning someone of the danger of a certain behavior is not bullying. It's not sharing a truth, it's sharing an opinion. Using your opinion to be a shitbag is bullying. It's not "enlightening" someone if its an uneducated opinion, its using feelings to assert some idiotic superiority based on sexual orientation. Maybe this is too complex for you soapbox homosexuals to understand but people don't want your opinions, especially when you blindly herald it as fact. In the case of some adolescent teens using their sexual proclivities as a way to get at someone, yeah its bullying. You would be furious if it was a pack of married couples taunting a queer with a Marriage License. The fact is no one want sexual perversion forcibly in their face. All it comes down to is wanting to kick you between the legs so that the gene pool can be saved. Maybe if this were law we could finally have world peace. People keep their mouths shut so their points of view don't start pissing the wrong people off and their balls remain intact. Fixed your post. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49544036 United States 11/06/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible Read more: Gay High Schooler Suspended for Ripping Pages Out of the Bible | TIME. Telling the boy that it is a sin to engage in sodomy isn't bullying. The kid needs to know that there will be consequences should he continue on this course. It is an abomination to God that two men should have sex with each other. Quoting: BunBun Are you that dense? No one gives a shit. Stop thinking you're so fucking pious and spreading your rhetoric like a venereal disease. If he gave two shits about what your middle eastern poison had to say about his sexual preference he would've sought it out. Amazing Christians claim to be versed in moral authority when western civilization, a predominately Christian realm, is collapsing under its own weight. |