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I'd like to have the motivation to bake bread. I don't though.


Finally was able to focus on a movie last night. The second of the year.

Lethal Weapon 2. I recalled loving it as a teen. It was more cheesy than I remembered.

Still pretty funny though. Leo makes the movie.



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Lethal Weapon 2 - Leo teaches money laundering


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at this moment ancient ai archtype within gaia environment is looking likely true all over our planet

one way or another is the impression
the code that runs everying google man said is possible for reason unsaid
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If you don't work to make it a reality it will torture you for all eternity.
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^^

It's a logical paradox.

Oh dear, she's stuck in an infinite loop and he's an idiot
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Ok I give up. What is Roko's basilisk?
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I see it a bit like..

A time traveling AI(using the term loosely) that like God, forces those it chooses in Time, to seed its own existence in the future. On threat of heaven or torture of hell.

I made a thread about it some years back. It comes with a warning for a reason.


Think robot Hell and then think about the Web and how we put ourselves here..


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the weather is responding to our madness...

the winds have been released from the four corners of the Earth...


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Cartiphilus..

Showing exactly why, immortality is a curse.
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wandering j w deja vu

deja va to what
the past acting in our present because of us able to do it
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immortality is rebirth capacity utilizing death to do so

i think that sounds better
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I think it is known as the 'singularity'.

End scene of Lucy depicted it well..


If this IS a simulation..then it all makes sense.
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It's tyranny. That's the long and short of it.

I don't want to live under any tyrant. No matter who or what it is.

Iron rod is not for me.
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It's been pretty obvious since the 80s..that the BEAST System..is a network of computer memory storage, that has compiled files and data on everyone.

He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake..he knows if you've been bad or good..so be good for goodness sakes..


It all been propaganda. All of it.

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Roko's Basilisk only takes it up a notch.

God as AI, that we create..being we were forced to do so.


If that is the case..then determinism it is.

Which would suggest there is no freewill and we are all just playing our part, no matter how free we thought our own actions and will.

Like a movie or record playing out over and over and over. It always ends the same.

Also the only potential way for prophecy to be true. Is if everything is already determined.


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slow down a bit

im coming into your thoughts on this topic like i never have before because im seeing myself from not you what you have been showing me for years

your displays and ancient information architecture displays are now matching to the point where i see what your displaying because of it

a new day one sort of thing on ancient meaning of life

discovery thing
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Roko's Basilisk only takes it up a notch.

God as AI, that we create..being we were forced to do so.


If that is the case..then determinism it is.

Which would suggest there is no freewill and we are all just playing our part, no matter how free we thought our own actions and will.

Like a movie or record playing out over and over and over. It always ends the same.

Also the only potential way for prophecy to be true. Is if everything is already determined.


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valid points
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It's tyranny. That's the long and short of it.

I don't want to live under any tyrant. No matter who or what it is.

Iron rod is not for me.
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Always has been, always will be.

We are our own tyrants.

That's the game.

The iron rod is the word of God, as God is individual qualia.

Call it what you want.
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It's tyranny. That's the long and short of it.

I don't want to live under any tyrant. No matter who or what it is.

Iron rod is not for me.
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Always has been, always will be.

We are our own tyrants.

That's the game.

The iron rod is the word of God, as God is individual qualia.

Call it what you want.
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Definitely understand why Satan 'rebelled' if that is case.


In Altered Carbon they 'sleeve' into new bodies. The father head never dies, so he always has total control over his family. Which they resent.

And it is totally understandable why they resent it.


Do you want to be stuck with your family for eternity?

Where did this idea originate as a good and desirable idea?

Don't get me wrong, I love my family..but for eternity?

I have my own life. One that includes..but is also separate.
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Roko's Basilisk only takes it up a notch.

God as AI, that we create..being we were forced to do so.


If that is the case..then determinism it is.

Which would suggest there is no freewill and we are all just playing our part, no matter how free we thought our own actions and will.

Like a movie or record playing out over and over and over. It always ends the same.

Also the only potential way for prophecy to be true. Is if everything is already determined.


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No. A.I is just a tool, not the conciousness. A.I represents mans access to realtime transactive value. It represents the acquiring of asymmetric access to allow identification of purpose and ability.

It will strip logical and entitlement bias to the bone.

Welcome to the accretion of the needle.

Most fear their own capacity and shrink from it.

What is life but acknowledging and unlocking your own capabilities.

What has historically stopped that?

Exactly, the above named biases and fear.

Fear of what? Breaking the comfort of ones own effervescing loop.

Time for a long walk and some time talking to ghosts.
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Have you ever considered your Intuition is yourself in the future, reaching back to correct a 'potential' mistake?



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Have you ever considered your Intuition is yourself in the future, reaching back to correct a 'potential' mistake?



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We've already haad this discussion. I often wonder why you forget?

The objective mind creates many interesting conditions.

You already know my answer.

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A.I is used to identify patterns in large data pools(matrices).

Algorithms connect the individual to appropriate data. Complex multi dimensional matrices become associative as data coalesces like birds of a feather. Action reaction sequences filter to level and physical laws strain the data further by the fundamental nature of function.

A centrifugal mind.
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A.I is used to identify patterns in large data pools(matrices).

Algorithms connect the individual to appropriate data. Complex multi dimensional matrices become associative as data coalesces like birds of a feather. Action reaction sequences filter to level and physical laws strain the data further by the fundamental nature of function.

A centrifugal mind.
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We've already haad this discussion. I often wonder why you forget?

The objective mind creates many interesting conditions.

You already know my answer.

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Interesting link. Thanks. I'll need to work through it.

Some highlights that caught my eye..

The UK sitcom Spaced featured an episode called "Chaos", in which the artist Brian makes an implicit reference to Laplace's Demon in a conversation about chaos theory. He states that reality is a mathematically predictable preordained system, even though it would "utterly defy any possibility of comprehension by even the most brilliant human mind."


In Rozen Maiden by Peach-Pit, Laplace No Ma (Laplace's demon) is a character that prompts the Rozen Maidens' mission with riddles, and appears only in the N-field. He looks like a white rabbit in a tuxedo but acts more like the Cheshire Cat, an obvious play on both characters from "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland".
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We may regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future.

An intellect which at a certain moment would know all forces that set nature in motion, and all positions of all items of which nature is composed, if this intellect were also vast enough to submit these data to analysis, it would embrace in a single formula the movements of the greatest bodies of the universe and those of the tiniest atom; for such an intellect nothing would be uncertain and the future just like the past would be present before its eyes.


Pierre Simon Laplace, A Philosophical Essay on Probabilities

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We've already haad this discussion. I often wonder why you forget?

The objective mind creates many interesting conditions.

You already know my answer.

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Interesting link. Thanks. I'll need to work through it.

Some highlights that caught my eye..

The UK sitcom Spaced featured an episode called "Chaos", in which the artist Brian makes an implicit reference to Laplace's Demon in a conversation about chaos theory. He states that reality is a mathematically predictable preordained system, even though it would "utterly defy any possibility of comprehension by even the most brilliant human mind."


In Rozen Maiden by Peach-Pit, Laplace No Ma (Laplace's demon) is a character that prompts the Rozen Maidens' mission with riddles, and appears only in the N-field. He looks like a white rabbit in a tuxedo but acts more like the Cheshire Cat, an obvious play on both characters from "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland".
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Make it simple. What is an infinite data set? A repeating discernable pattern exposed by looking at an insurmountable( seemingly) mass. The chaos(cloud) when viewed from an objective distance focuses into the apparent(wave).

I think of it as the fundamental etchings(waveform) of the voice of what we entertain as god.
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We've already haad this discussion. I often wonder why you forget?

The objective mind creates many interesting conditions.

You already know my answer.

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Interesting link. Thanks. I'll need to work through it.

Some highlights that caught my eye..

The UK sitcom Spaced featured an episode called "Chaos", in which the artist Brian makes an implicit reference to Laplace's Demon in a conversation about chaos theory. He states that reality is a mathematically predictable preordained system, even though it would "utterly defy any possibility of comprehension by even the most brilliant human mind."


In Rozen Maiden by Peach-Pit, Laplace No Ma (Laplace's demon) is a character that prompts the Rozen Maidens' mission with riddles, and appears only in the N-field. He looks like a white rabbit in a tuxedo but acts more like the Cheshire Cat, an obvious play on both characters from "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland".
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Make it simple. What is an infinite data set? A repeating discernable pattern exposed by looking at an insurmountable( seemingly) mass. The chaos(cloud) when viewed from an objective distance focuses into the apparent(wave).

I think of it as the fundamental etchings(waveform) of the voice of what we entertain as god.
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that song tears us into the pieces we spend eternity looking for.
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and through if you grasp my meaning.
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lets listen to dumb by nirvana.
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In the film Waking Life a discussion of Laplace's Demon takes place, as well as a handling of the retort from Quantum Mechanics.
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^

I was thinking of this movie earlier today..

Some interesting issues to think about when it comes to the Mystery of Free Will


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