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loveexists User ID: 65163690 United States 03/20/2016 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | originally 'the united states' was founded as a republic ... but tptb push mob-rule 'democracy' as a gateway for socialism ... Because of the very nature OF duality, one must accept as factual duality's transient presence in order to truly comprehend its objective non-existence |
Anonymous Cowherder Stop the inanity! User ID: 33903191 United States 03/20/2016 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | see my signature for the first steps needed to return the US to a Constitutional Republic it was meant to be. Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929! Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be. Restore the Republic. Thread: The Bill of Rights does NOT include age requirements! It's a flower, not something to be feared. - Moo! |
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goldielucks User ID: 70742346 United States 03/20/2016 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71090205 United States 03/20/2016 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. Quoting: goldielucks The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! you and OP are missing the point..congress, senate, and the president are the RE in republic..not the delegates in the electoral college..delegates are supposed to be the PUBLICS messenger boy, nothing more |
goldielucks User ID: 70742346 United States 03/20/2016 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. Quoting: goldielucks The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! you and OP are missing the point..congress, senate, and the president are the RE in republic..not the delegates in the electoral college..delegates are supposed to be the PUBLICS messenger boy, nothing more What electoral college messenger have you spoken with? You just gave a whole new definition to public school REtard, and clearly didn't learn what a Republic is. Stop confusing people with the democratic process of the electoral college for an election in a REPUBLIC: the rule of law by the people and for the people with liberty and justice for all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71090205 United States 03/20/2016 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. Quoting: goldielucks The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! you and OP are missing the point..congress, senate, and the president are the RE in republic..not the delegates in the electoral college..delegates are supposed to be the PUBLICS messenger boy, nothing more What electoral college messenger have you spoken with? You just gave a whole new definition to public school REtard, and clearly didn't learn what a Republic is. Stop confusing people with the democratic process of the electoral college for an election in a REPUBLIC: the rule of law by the people and for the people with liberty and justice for all. your vote dumbass..thats the message they are suppose to carry..they exist only because there was no speedy travel or communication when it was envisioned..ffs no wonderthis country is screwed the people are fucking clueless and retarded |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71090205 United States 03/20/2016 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. Quoting: goldielucks The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! you and OP are missing the point..congress, senate, and the president are the RE in republic..not the delegates in the electoral college..delegates are supposed to be the PUBLICS messenger boy, nothing more What electoral college messenger have you spoken with? You just gave a whole new definition to public school REtard, and clearly didn't learn what a Republic is. Stop confusing people with the democratic process of the electoral college for an election in a REPUBLIC: the rule of law by the people and for the people with liberty and justice for all. your vote dumbass..thats the message they are suppose to carry..they exist only because there was no speedy travel or communication when it was envisioned..ffs no wonderthis country is screwed the people are fucking clueless and retarded and technically congress, senate are suppose to be the same way..their votes or decisions should be a reflection of the peoples will and nothing more..they are there to REPRESENT their constituents will not their own BS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70577008 United States 03/20/2016 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. Quoting: goldielucks The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! The Pledge of Allegiance is creepy. |
goldielucks User ID: 70742346 United States 03/20/2016 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text books, politicians and MSM have been calling it democracy for at least 25 years. They repeat the word democracy 10, 20, 30 times a day, 365. Quoting: goldielucks The Pledge of Allegiance says, "To The Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God..." is no longer said in school either. More than half the population has been reeducated that the rule of law is dead and mob rule is supreme. Good luck OP! you and OP are missing the point..congress, senate, and the president are the RE in republic..not the delegates in the electoral college..delegates are supposed to be the PUBLICS messenger boy, nothing more What electoral college messenger have you spoken with? You just gave a whole new definition to public school REtard, and clearly didn't learn what a Republic is. Stop confusing people with the democratic process of the electoral college for an election in a REPUBLIC: the rule of law by the people and for the people with liberty and justice for all. your vote dumbass..thats the message they are suppose to carry..they exist only because there was no speedy travel or communication when it was envisioned..ffs no wonderthis country is screwed the people are fucking clueless and retarded Travel and communication has nothing to do with the definition of a REPUBLIC. You certainly proved clueless in your definition of a Republic, electoral college, subject context, sentence structure and punctuation. Your vote, dumbass, doesn't mean a damn thing with the electoral college in a what is now known as democracy: mob rule. There is a popular vote, a Republic. However, it's ignored in favor of the electoral college, by your definition: democracy. How is it a "democracy" when the majority of the votes are ignored in favor of an antiquated electoral college, by your definition again, was created out of necessity when QUALIFIED CITIZENS COULD NOT get to the polls to vote? My how our definitions (of some rules) change and others remain embedded in history. Targeted parts of the Constitution are interpreted differently almost every day. You can pick the parts you want to suit your definition. There's so much ignorance in your response, it's inconceivable. You need an American Government history class. Furthermore, go start your own thread about the electoral college since you're unable to comprehend Republic and Democracy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64737393 United States 03/20/2016 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lets clear this up for those who might be led astray...a representative must be DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED..delegates in both primary and general and of the electoral college are a perversion and they goddamn well know it..the word is RE-PUBLIC..public being the operative word Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71090205 Who exactly are the Electoral College members? What are their names. Were they Elected in any election so that they might be representatives of collections of We The People? Name all the members of the Electoral College of the Presidential Election of 2012. Go for it.. name them, each and everyone of them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64737393 United States 03/20/2016 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71090205 you and OP are missing the point..congress, senate, and the president are the RE in republic..not the delegates in the electoral college..delegates are supposed to be the PUBLICS messenger boy, nothing more What electoral college messenger have you spoken with? You just gave a whole new definition to public school REtard, and clearly didn't learn what a Republic is. Stop confusing people with the democratic process of the electoral college for an election in a REPUBLIC: the rule of law by the people and for the people with liberty and justice for all. your vote dumbass..thats the message they are suppose to carry..they exist only because there was no speedy travel or communication when it was envisioned..ffs no wonderthis country is screwed the people are fucking clueless and retarded Travel and communication has nothing to do with the definition of a REPUBLIC. You certainly proved clueless in your definition of a Republic, electoral college, subject context, sentence structure and punctuation. Your vote, dumbass, doesn't mean a damn thing with the electoral college in a what is now known as democracy: mob rule. There is a popular vote, a Republic. However, it's ignored in favor of the electoral college, by your definition: democracy. How is it a "democracy" when the majority of the votes are ignored in favor of an antiquated electoral college, by your definition again, was created out of necessity when QUALIFIED CITIZENS COULD NOT get to the polls to vote? My how our definitions (of some rules) change and others remain embedded in history. Targeted parts of the Constitution are interpreted differently almost every day. You can pick the parts you want to suit your definition. There's so much ignorance in your response, it's inconceivable. You need an American Government history class. Furthermore, go start your own thread about the electoral college since you're unable to comprehend Republic and Democracy. Again, name the names of al the Electoral College of the President Election of 2012... by name, each and everyone of them. Would some on PLEASE do that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71704124 United States 03/20/2016 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its a "democracy " op and a democracy is a dictatorship attempting to look like a republic. It was created a republic and that lasted about 5 minutes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71704124 you ones have nothing to do at all despite the games with who wins and runs. I figured this out by the time I was 20 or before. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 03/20/2016 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definition Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34275404 Democracy - is ruled by the omnipotent majority. In a democracy, an individual, and any group of individuals composing any minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of the majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man. Republic - A republic is similar to a representative democracy except it has a written constitution of basic rights that protect the minority from being completely unrepresented or overridden by the majority. Constraints on the government Democracy - No; the majority can impose its will on the minority. Republic - Yes; the majority cannot take away certain inalienable rights. Philosophy Democracy - All eligible citizens get equal say in decisions. Republic - All eligible citizens get equal say in decisions with protection of unalienable rights to individuals. Famous Examples Democracy - Classical Greece, Rome Republic - United States Of America Sovereignty is held by Democracy - the whole population (as a group) Republic - the people (individuals) Common confusion in the USA Democracy - People commonly confuse direct democracy with representative democracy. The US officially has a representative style, though many have suggested the US is closer to an oligarchy or plutocracy. Republic - The US is actually a Republic. It is governed by rule of law. The elected are bound by oath to the written governing limits (ie constitution) yet vote "together" and create laws to address concerns of the represented in a democratic way Free Choice Democracy - Individuals may make decisions for themselves except insofar as a majority faction has limited individuals. Republic - Individuals may make decisions for themselves, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on interfering with freedom of choice. Political System Democratic. [Note: this is not meant as a reference to a Democratic Party.] Republican. [Note: this is not meant as a reference to a Republican Party.] Social Structure Democracy - Class distinctions can become pronounced due to capitalist society. Varies from state to state. Republic - Class distinctions can become pronounced due to capitalist society. Varies from state to state. Religion Democracy - Generally, freedom of religion is permitted, although a majority faction may limit religious freedom for a minority faction. Republic - Generally, freedom of religion is permitted, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on interfering with freedom of religion. Economic System Democracy -Elected by the voters or their elected representatives. Usually capitalist or Keynesian. Republic - Elected by the voters or their elected representatives. Usually capitalist or Keynesian. Private Property Democracy - Generally, private property is permitted, although a majority faction may place limits on property rights. Republic - Generally, private property is permitted, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on interfering with property rights. Discrimination Democracy - In theory, all citizens have an equal say and so are treated equally. However, often allows for the tyranny of the majority over the minority. Republic - In theory, all citizens have an equal say and so are treated equally by the government, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on government discrimination. Variations Democracy - Direct democracy, parliamentary democracy, representative democracy, presidential democracy. Republic - Democratic republics, Constitutional republics. Modern Examples Democracy - More than half of the world, including the US, Canada, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc. Republic - The United States of America is a republic. Key Elements Democracy - Free elections. Republic - Free elections, constitution. Way of Change Democracy - Voting. Republic - Voting. Observation in practice Democracy - People commonly confuse direct democracy with representative democracy. The US has a representative style. But the will of the people shouldnt easily decide to change the rules that limit power to the government. Republic - The U.S.A.'s Constitution clearly shows the U.S. as a Republic, Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution Trump will bring back the United States the Republic [link to www.diffen.com] Very good post AC. I would correct the one inalienable to unalienable. The distinction, at least to me, is important. And add Austrian economics as opposed to keynesian. But then that would be my preference. Governments insofar as they are necessary are instituted to protect rights, not take them away. The stated cause of class distinction is arguable. Otherwise I applaud your post. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 03/20/2016 09:04 PM |
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Loup Garou User ID: 70532885 United States 03/20/2016 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | correction The United States is a Constitutional Republic not a Democracy. Definition Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34275404 Democracy - is ruled by the omnipotent majority. In a democracy, an individual, and any group of individuals composing any minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of the majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man. Republic - A republic is similar to a representative democracy except it has a written constitution of basic rights that protect the minority from being completely unrepresented or overridden by the majority. Constraints on the government Democracy - No; the majority can impose its will on the minority. Republic - Yes; the majority cannot take away certain inalienable rights. Philosophy Democracy - All eligible citizens get equal say in decisions. Republic - All eligible citizens get equal say in decisions with protection of unalienable rights to individuals. Famous Examples Democracy - Classical Greece, Rome Republic - United States Of America Sovereignty is held by Democracy - the whole population (as a group) Republic - the people (individuals) Common confusion in the USA Democracy - People commonly confuse direct democracy with representative democracy. The US officially has a representative style, though many have suggested the US is closer to an oligarchy or plutocracy. Republic - The US is actually a Republic. It is governed by rule of law. The elected are bound by oath to the written governing limits (ie constitution) yet vote "together" and create laws to address concerns of the represented in a democratic way Free Choice Democracy - Individuals may make decisions for themselves except insofar as a majority faction has limited individuals. Republic - Individuals may make decisions for themselves, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on interfering with freedom of choice. Political System Democratic. [Note: this is not meant as a reference to a Democratic Party.] Republican. [Note: this is not meant as a reference to a Republican Party.] Social Structure Democracy - Class distinctions can become pronounced due to capitalist society. Varies from state to state. Republic - Class distinctions can become pronounced due to capitalist society. Varies from state to state. Religion Democracy - Generally, freedom of religion is permitted, although a majority faction may limit religious freedom for a minority faction. Republic - Generally, freedom of religion is permitted, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on interfering with freedom of religion. Economic System Democracy -Elected by the voters or their elected representatives. Usually capitalist or Keynesian. Republic - Elected by the voters or their elected representatives. Usually capitalist or Keynesian. Private Property Democracy - Generally, private property is permitted, although a majority faction may place limits on property rights. Republic - Generally, private property is permitted, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on interfering with property rights. Discrimination Democracy - In theory, all citizens have an equal say and so are treated equally. However, often allows for the tyranny of the majority over the minority. Republic - In theory, all citizens have an equal say and so are treated equally by the government, especially insofar as there is a constitutional prohibition on government discrimination. Variations Democracy - Direct democracy, parliamentary democracy, representative democracy, presidential democracy. Republic - Democratic republics, Constitutional republics. Modern Examples Democracy - More than half of the world, including the US, Canada, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc. Republic - The United States of America is a republic. Key Elements Democracy - Free elections. Republic - Free elections, constitution. Way of Change Democracy - Voting. Republic - Voting. Observation in practice Democracy - People commonly confuse direct democracy with representative democracy. The US has a representative style. But the will of the people shouldnt easily decide to change the rules that limit power to the government. Republic - The U.S.A.'s Constitution clearly shows the U.S. as a Republic, Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution Trump will bring back the United States the Republic [link to www.diffen.com] Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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