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AdorableLittlepixie User ID: 58775259 Australia 12/07/2019 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed This Littlepixie is ready and waiting for my annual dose of RSI from keeping up with this thread when it takes off again. AdorableLittlepixie I am safe and protected with every step I take with everybody always. |
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Crunch62 User ID: 922062 United States 12/11/2019 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I came across this from your suggested articles above: Quoting: AdorableLittlepixie Ive not watched it yet so I can't give a summary. Thank you. I got through part of it. These people waste so much time talking about managerial structural BS instead of the actual issues. BUMP 4...SOMEONE TO LISTEN TO...HA HA! I got through it. Lots of doublespeak and talking about methods of classifying potential failure modes. However, at around 1:17:00, Assemblyman Gallagher is asking for a list of the 21 'Amber Items', which I assume are the issues that were redacted in the report. He is told that there cannot be a list, due to possible security issues disclosed. Again at about 1:50:00, the young lady asks about the Main spillway anchor tendons failing. She is told 'there cannot be specific items mentioned'. However, a long discussion about the various anchors and potential issues of failure and difficulty in repairs ensues. There is also some discussion of a potential issue at the right dam abutment where it adjoins the main spillway gate structure. One of the ongoing resolutions for that area is the complete rebuilding of it. GLP called that one, for sure. Right near the end of the video around 2:50:00, DWR again mentions that we cannot provide details or a list, because 'law enforcement would not be happy with us'. I recall during the initial incident, when cameras were being set up for public view, Bill Croyle stated that some 'sensitive' areas would not be viewable by the public. I believe these areas included the interior of the main spillway gate structure. The same area #weiryone was providing excellent photos of before he disappeared. This party ain't over, folks. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78116487 United States 12/11/2019 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed If they wanted to fix it they would have listened to Scott Cahill when he said the only possible hope for that dam is an intensive six month grouting program to try and seal off all those leaking channels in the hill. What do you see now while the water is lower? Do you see the kind of intense high tech grouting equipment used for example at the Mosul dam? Do you see them doing everything possible to grout the leaks now, before winter and spring? I do not think there is any logical explanation for the utter failure to try and fix the dam, except that somebody high up the chain has decided it must fail. Agenda 21/30, re-wilding the west, all that sort of thing. Losing central valley agriculture will be a national catastrophe, but it appears to be the plan. I just cant see any other explanation. I guess my addictive dam watch checking in five times a day here will be kicking back into gear before long, if these precipitation patterns continue. By the way Hi to you paradisegypsy, hope you are doing well. I hope the future is good for you, Crunch, and any others who stand to be affected if this thing finally breaks this year. Hopefully it would be no worse than another broken spillway gouging a new gorge like in 2017. |
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Prayandprepare000 User ID: 78116487 United States 12/12/2019 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed This is the 9+ minute trailer for Steve Quayle's upcoming 2020 film on the Cascadia fault line threat. Great footage. The related volcanic line goes all the way down to Mt Lassen, north of O Dam. I'd imagine the local fault lines, like the one running right through O lake, will all be affected. Time to step up the prepping. 40 % of the nation's goods come through CA. The port of LA is huge, and the agriculture is huge. We are looking at quite a bit of disruption for at the very least months, and for agriculture much longer, esp if that dam breaks and irrigation is lost. |
Crunch62 User ID: 922062 United States 12/12/2019 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the right dam abutment the one where the end of the gate structure has settled due to all the erosion in the underlying hillside, causing cracks? On the sinkhole side? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78116487 If they wanted to fix it they would have listened to Scott Cahill when he said the only possible hope for that dam is an intensive six month grouting program to try and seal off all those leaking channels in the hill. What do you see now while the water is lower? Do you see the kind of intense high tech grouting equipment used for example at the Mosul dam? Do you see them doing everything possible to grout the leaks now, before winter and spring? I do not think there is any logical explanation for the utter failure to try and fix the dam, except that somebody high up the chain has decided it must fail. Agenda 21/30, re-wilding the west, all that sort of thing. Losing central valley agriculture will be a national catastrophe, but it appears to be the plan. I just cant see any other explanation. I guess my addictive dam watch checking in five times a day here will be kicking back into gear before long, if these precipitation patterns continue. By the way Hi to you paradisegypsy, hope you are doing well. I hope the future is good for you, Crunch, and any others who stand to be affected if this thing finally breaks this year. Hopefully it would be no worse than another broken spillway gouging a new gorge like in 2017. Yes, the right abutment is the one adjacent to the spillway gate structure. This area has been of express concern, regarding the apparent settlement of that end of the Main Spillway head structure (or the settlement of the dam proper in relation to the gate structure). Some areas of conversation were the 'road gap' at the spillway bridge (Claus Dastrup) and the ongoing work in the gate structure as provided by @weiryone's outstanding photos. His photos clearly showed the extent of workers and equipment in the gate area, as well as the additional bracing installed prior to DWR's 'grand opening' of the new spillway in April of 2019. I don't know what happened to weiryone. Maybe he got a knock on the door from some gov suits, threatening eternal damnation at Gitmo under the guise of 'national security'. Maybe he simply got 'disappeared'. What is obvious is that the public is not being provided all information related to the safety of this dam. This is proven by the redacted information in the needs assessment and the comments by DWR in the posted video. Last Edited by Crunch62 on 12/12/2019 04:13 PM I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65258342 United States 12/12/2019 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the right dam abutment the one where the end of the gate structure has settled due to all the erosion in the underlying hillside, causing cracks? On the sinkhole side? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78116487 If they wanted to fix it they would have listened to Scott Cahill when he said the only possible hope for that dam is an intensive six month grouting program to try and seal off all those leaking channels in the hill. What do you see now while the water is lower? Do you see the kind of intense high tech grouting equipment used for example at the Mosul dam? Do you see them doing everything possible to grout the leaks now, before winter and spring? I do not think there is any logical explanation for the utter failure to try and fix the dam, except that somebody high up the chain has decided it must fail. Agenda 21/30, re-wilding the west, all that sort of thing. Losing central valley agriculture will be a national catastrophe, but it appears to be the plan. I just cant see any other explanation. I guess my addictive dam watch checking in five times a day here will be kicking back into gear before long, if these precipitation patterns continue. By the way Hi to you paradisegypsy, hope you are doing well. I hope the future is good for you, Crunch, and any others who stand to be affected if this thing finally breaks this year. Hopefully it would be no worse than another broken spillway gouging a new gorge like in 2017. Yes, the right abutment is the one adjacent to the spillway gate structure. This area has been of express concern, regarding the apparent settlement of that end of the Main Spillway head structure (or the settlement of the dam proper in relation to the gate structure). Some areas of conversation were the 'road gap' at the spillway bridge (Claus Dastrup) and the ongoing work in the gate structure as provided by @weiryone's outstanding photos. His photos clearly showed the extent of workers and equipment in the gate area, as well as the additional bracing installed prior to DWR's 'grand opening' of the new spillway in April of 2019. I don't know what happened to weiryone. Maybe he got a knock on the door from some gov suits, threatening eternal damnation at Gitmo under the guise of 'national security'. Maybe he simply got 'disappeared'. What is obvious is that the public is not being provided all information related to the safety of this dam. This is proven by the redacted information in the needs assessment and the comments by DWR in the posted video. the left on the other side has leaking alot tool. It is weaker in fact inside... a couple years ago it stretched the entire length of the abutment. I am talking about the abutment on the left.. not the leaking further left that is growing green stuff. |
Prayandprepare000 User ID: 75779383 United States 12/12/2019 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the right dam abutment the one where the end of the gate structure has settled due to all the erosion in the underlying hillside, causing cracks? On the sinkhole side? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78116487 If they wanted to fix it they would have listened to Scott Cahill when he said the only possible hope for that dam is an intensive six month grouting program to try and seal off all those leaking channels in the hill. What do you see now while the water is lower? Do you see the kind of intense high tech grouting equipment used for example at the Mosul dam? Do you see them doing everything possible to grout the leaks now, before winter and spring? I do not think there is any logical explanation for the utter failure to try and fix the dam, except that somebody high up the chain has decided it must fail. Agenda 21/30, re-wilding the west, all that sort of thing. Losing central valley agriculture will be a national catastrophe, but it appears to be the plan. I just cant see any other explanation. I guess my addictive dam watch checking in five times a day here will be kicking back into gear before long, if these precipitation patterns continue. By the way Hi to you paradisegypsy, hope you are doing well. I hope the future is good for you, Crunch, and any others who stand to be affected if this thing finally breaks this year. Hopefully it would be no worse than another broken spillway gouging a new gorge like in 2017. Yes, the right abutment is the one adjacent to the spillway gate structure. This area has been of express concern, regarding the apparent settlement of that end of the Main Spillway head structure (or the settlement of the dam proper in relation to the gate structure). Some areas of conversation were the 'road gap' at the spillway bridge (Claus Dastrup) and the ongoing work in the gate structure as provided by @weiryone's outstanding photos. His photos clearly showed the extent of workers and equipment in the gate area, as well as the additional bracing installed prior to DWR's 'grand opening' of the new spillway in April of 2019. I don't know what happened to weiryone. Maybe he got a knock on the door from some gov suits, threatening eternal damnation at Gitmo under the guise of 'national security'. Maybe he simply got 'disappeared'. What is obvious is that the public is not being provided all information related to the safety of this dam. This is proven by the redacted information in the needs assessment and the comments by DWR in the posted video. the left on the other side has leaking alot tool. It is weaker in fact inside... a couple years ago it stretched the entire length of the abutment. I am talking about the abutment on the left.. not the leaking further left that is growing green stuff. Crunch....thanks. All.....that place is leaking all over... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65258342 United States 12/13/2019 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the right dam abutment the one where the end of the gate structure has settled due to all the erosion in the underlying hillside, causing cracks? On the sinkhole side? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78116487 If they wanted to fix it they would have listened to Scott Cahill when he said the only possible hope for that dam is an intensive six month grouting program to try and seal off all those leaking channels in the hill. What do you see now while the water is lower? Do you see the kind of intense high tech grouting equipment used for example at the Mosul dam? Do you see them doing everything possible to grout the leaks now, before winter and spring? I do not think there is any logical explanation for the utter failure to try and fix the dam, except that somebody high up the chain has decided it must fail. Agenda 21/30, re-wilding the west, all that sort of thing. Losing central valley agriculture will be a national catastrophe, but it appears to be the plan. I just cant see any other explanation. I guess my addictive dam watch checking in five times a day here will be kicking back into gear before long, if these precipitation patterns continue. By the way Hi to you paradisegypsy, hope you are doing well. I hope the future is good for you, Crunch, and any others who stand to be affected if this thing finally breaks this year. Hopefully it would be no worse than another broken spillway gouging a new gorge like in 2017. Yes, the right abutment is the one adjacent to the spillway gate structure. This area has been of express concern, regarding the apparent settlement of that end of the Main Spillway head structure (or the settlement of the dam proper in relation to the gate structure). Some areas of conversation were the 'road gap' at the spillway bridge (Claus Dastrup) and the ongoing work in the gate structure as provided by @weiryone's outstanding photos. His photos clearly showed the extent of workers and equipment in the gate area, as well as the additional bracing installed prior to DWR's 'grand opening' of the new spillway in April of 2019. I don't know what happened to weiryone. Maybe he got a knock on the door from some gov suits, threatening eternal damnation at Gitmo under the guise of 'national security'. Maybe he simply got 'disappeared'. What is obvious is that the public is not being provided all information related to the safety of this dam. This is proven by the redacted information in the needs assessment and the comments by DWR in the posted video. the left on the other side has leaking alot tool. It is weaker in fact inside... a couple years ago it stretched the entire length of the abutment. I am talking about the abutment on the left.. not the leaking further left that is growing green stuff. Crunch....thanks. All.....that place is leaking all over... I know.. but that abutment is never mentioned.. I was trying to separate in my post what I was specifically talking about.. which was not the green area that most are familiar with. I was provided detailed information when the emergency spillway over topped about construction errors INSIDE. I provided that on another forum is some detail and I don't have any copy to post those details here. I can't even find my log in to it. |
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Pdisegypsy User ID: 77220092 United States 12/14/2019 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the right dam abutment the one where the end of the gate structure has settled due to all the erosion in the underlying hillside, causing cracks? On the sinkhole side? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78116487 If they wanted to fix it they would have listened to Scott Cahill when he said the only possible hope for that dam is an intensive six month grouting program to try and seal off all those leaking channels in the hill. What do you see now while the water is lower? Do you see the kind of intense high tech grouting equipment used for example at the Mosul dam? Do you see them doing everything possible to grout the leaks now, before winter and spring? I do not think there is any logical explanation for the utter failure to try and fix the dam, except that somebody high up the chain has decided it must fail. Agenda 21/30, re-wilding the west, all that sort of thing. Losing central valley agriculture will be a national catastrophe, but it appears to be the plan. I just cant see any other explanation. I guess my addictive dam watch checking in five times a day here will be kicking back into gear before long, if these precipitation patterns continue. By the way Hi to you paradisegypsy, hope you are doing well. I hope the future is good for you, Crunch, and any others who stand to be affected if this thing finally breaks this year. Hopefully it would be no worse than another broken spillway gouging a new gorge like in 2017. Hello! Had another dam breaking dream two days ago myself! We are doing Ok! Just saying hi back! |
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Crunch62 User ID: 922062 United States 12/17/2019 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Some pics from one who shall remain nameless. They don't go away. Look at that temp bracing. IMAGE ( [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] ) And that road gap. Settling...or unsettling LOL. IMAGE ( [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] ) I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |