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Post Invasion Nightmare: Taiwan Becomes America’s Enemy (China Plan to Invade Taiwan by 2020) | |
| AC.GLP Offer Upgrade  User ID: 77130748  United States01/22/2019 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Post–Invasion Nightmare: Taiwan Becomes America’s Enemy January 21, 2019 [link to nationalinterest.org (secure)] Excerpts - If Taipei fell to Beijing control tomorrow, then Xi Jinping could use the country's bases to launch new wars. China views Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines as one long wall. Bud Cole, the celebrated specialist on Chinese naval issues, dubbed it the “The Great Wall at Sea” for good reason. Insurmountable in geographic terms; with no line of sight for its aircraft, let alone navy, Beijing has no other choice but to take Taiwan. Taiwan’s central mountain range runs the length of the island with heights ranging from nine thousand to twelve thousand feet. This is the problem China faces in its efforts to project force into the Pacific. The Chinese air force must fly around Taiwan, the navy must sail through the Japanese-controlled Ryukyu Islands chain that stretches from Japan to Taiwan, and mainland’s ground-based radar cannot peek over Taiwan. The occupation of Chinese military forces on Taiwan would basically turn the tables on the United States. The “wall” would now be a U.S. problem in terms of line-of-sight. If Taiwan fell tomorrow, the Chinese navy could use the northeast naval base of Suao as a submarine base. Not just any ordinary base, but a far better one than Yulin Naval Base on Hainan Island, where Chinese nuclear submarines leave their mountain cave facilities to enter the shallow waters of the South China Sea. At Suao the waters off the coast drop into the abyss, giving submarines a far better ability to drop below thermal layers and vanish. The second base of great envy by China is Taiwan’s Hualien Air Force Base, which is the home of the 401st Wing with three squadrons of F-16 fighter aircraft. Located just south of Suao, the base has a “nuclear proof” bunker carved out from the inside of Chiashan Mountain. Only one other airbase uses a catacomb of underground facilities and that is Taitung on the southeast coast. The base’s Shihzishan (Stone Mountain) is not as big as Chiashan Mountain but can house around three fighter squadrons during an attack. Both airbases could be home to China’s fighter aircraft, such as the J-11/J-15/J-16, all with a range of two thousand miles and a combat range of half. Once China establishes military bases on the island, then the Taiwan Strait could be closed to commercial traffic at Beijing’s whim for either political, economic or military agendas. Middle East oil and gas traveling up the Taiwan Strait and the eastern coast to Korea and Japan would be under China’s strategic umbrella.  Last Edited by AC.GLP on 03/24/2019 09:16 AM |
| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China’s New Submarine-Launched Nuclear Missile Can Hit the U.S. December 29, 2018 [link to news.yahoo.com (secure)] China Has More Nuclear Subs Than the West Believed November 20, 2018 [link to www.defenseone.com (secure)] |
| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aircraft Carriers, Stealth Bombers and Nuclear Weapons: How China's Military Is Rising And getting ready for modern war. January 19, 2019 [link to nationalinterest.org (secure)] |
| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | US Navy Chief: Aircraft Carrier Could Pass Through Taiwan Strait January 18, 2019 [link to www.voanews.com (secure)] U.S. Navy considers sending aircraft carrier to Taiwan Strait Friday, January 17, 2019 [link to www.oann.com (secure)] Taiwan holds live-fire exercises following China threats January 17 [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] Taiwan Says It Won't Bow to Pressure Amid China Tension Jan. 16, 2019 [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] USS Wasp drills with Japan in East China Sea, days after Beijing mobilizes anti-ship missile January 18, 2019 [link to americanmilitarynews.com (secure)] Green Berets practice securing remote islands with elite Japanese paratroopers January 16, 2019 [link to www.stripes.com (secure)] |
| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China’s Secret Military Plan: Invade Taiwan by 2020 October 3, 2017 [link to freebeacon.com (secure)] China has drawn up secret military plans to take over the island of Taiwan by 2020, an action that would likely lead to a larger U.S.-China conventional or nuclear war, according to newly-disclosed internal Chinese military documents. The secret war plan drawn up by the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the Chinese Communist Party's armed forces, calls for massive missile attacks on the island, along with a naval and air blockade that is followed by amphibious beach landing assaults using up to 400,000 troops. The plans and operations are outlined in a new book published this week, The Chinese Invasion Threat by Ian Easton, a China affairs analyst with the Project 2049 Institute, a think tank. Parts of the PLA invasion scheme were first revealed publicly by the Taiwan Defense Ministry in late 2013. The plan calls for military operations against the island to be carried out by 2020. The invasion program was confirmed by Chinese leader Xi Jinping during the major Communist Party meeting five years ago when Xi committed to "continue the 2020 Plan, whereby we build and deploy a complete operational capability to use force against Taiwan by that year."  |
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| darth User ID: 76659972 United States01/22/2019 02:38 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Post–Invasion Nightmare: Taiwan Becomes America’s Enemy Quoting: AC.GLP January 21, 2019 [link to nationalinterest.org (secure)] Excerpts - If Taipei fell to Beijing control tomorrow, then Xi Jinping could use the country's bases to launch new wars. China views Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines as one long wall. Bud Cole, the celebrated specialist on Chinese naval issues, dubbed it the “The Great Wall at Sea” for good reason. Insurmountable in geographic terms; with no line of sight for its aircraft, let alone navy, Beijing has no other choice but to take Taiwan. Taiwan’s central mountain range runs the length of the island with heights ranging from nine thousand to twelve thousand feet. This is the problem China faces in its efforts to project force into the Pacific. The Chinese air force must fly around Taiwan, the navy must sail through the Japanese-controlled Ryukyu Islands chain that stretches from Japan to Taiwan, and mainland’s ground-based radar cannot peek over Taiwan. The occupation of Chinese military forces on Taiwan would basically turn the tables on the United States. The “wall” would now be a U.S. problem in terms of line-of-sight. If Taiwan fell tomorrow, the Chinese navy could use the northeast naval base of Suao as a submarine base. Not just any ordinary base, but a far better one than Yulin Naval Base on Hainan Island, where Chinese nuclear submarines leave their mountain cave facilities to enter the shallow waters of the South China Sea. At Suao the waters off the coast drop into the abyss, giving submarines a far better ability to drop below thermal layers and vanish. The second base of great envy by China is Taiwan’s Hualien Air Force Base, which is the home of the 401st Wing with three squadrons of F-16 fighter aircraft. Located just south of Suao, the base has a “nuclear proof” bunker carved out from the inside of Chiashan Mountain. Only one other airbase uses a catacomb of underground facilities and that is Taitung on the southeast coast. The base’s Shihzishan (Stone Mountain) is not as big as Chiashan Mountain but can house around three fighter squadrons during an attack. Both airbases could be home to China’s fighter aircraft, such as the J-11/J-15/J-16, all with a range of two thousand miles and a combat range of half. Once China establishes military bases on the island, then the Taiwan Strait could be closed to commercial traffic at Beijing’s whim for either political, economic or military agendas. Middle East oil and gas traveling up the Taiwan Strait and the eastern coast to Korea and Japan would be under China’s strategic umbrella. The defense of Taiwan falls mainly on the citizens of that country. However, I would suggest actions for Taiwan: 1. Deal with internal traitors and Chicom agents at the first sign of hostilities. 2. Dig in and survive the missile bombardment. 3. Deploy subs to attack invading amphib forces long before they land. Reminds me of a US Naval officer's description of such an amphib invasion, "The Million Man Swim". 4. Obviously, fight back with naval surface ships, anti-aircraft defenses, and land forces to prevent amphib landings. 5. Sow mines in the waters of China's shipping lanes. This would have an enormous impact on an economy that relies on foreign resources. 6. The USA could launch a total embargo of imports from China and encourage others to do so. 7. The USA could help forge a regional alliance against Chinese expansion. The Phillipines and Viet Nam are next on China's menu. They need to insure that an invasion of Taiwan is a complete failure. 8. The USA could provide military training with Green Berets for the persecuted minorities in China's current empire, e.g., Tibetans and Turks. 9. The USA can expel Chinese students and agents. The objective is to stymie the invasion and sow discord in China. When the leaders lose the Mandate of Heaven, the SHTF in China. |
| Union Jackboot User ID: 68212108  United Kingdom01/22/2019 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Philippines? Someone raise MacArthur from the dead. Last Edited by Union Jackboot on 01/22/2019 02:42 PM DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE! The reader is responsible for discerning the validity, factuality or implications of information posted here, be it fictional or based on real events. |
| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We did nothing when they took Tibet, and it's vast riches in minerals and such, because of international relations.. what makes you think we'll do something if they take Taiwan? Quoting: Waiting On The Moon  I hear ya, and proof will be in the pudding as they say. I do believe that once China comes for Taiwan, the US will likely be brought into it, as to do nothing would give China complete control of the strategic waterways, and such Chinese action will force several APAC nations to act. Example - Taiwan and Japan’s Collective Self-Defense July 02, 2014 [link to thediplomat.com (secure)] China conquering and occupying Taiwan would present about as clear a danger to Japan’s survival as any event short of an attack on Japan itself. The Senkaku Islands are roughly half the distance from Taiwan as they are from mainland China, which would allow Beijing to bring far more force to bear in an attack on them. It would also allow Beijing to approach the islands from roughly two different directions. Furthermore, Taiwan’s strategic location would greatly enhance China’s ability to interdict maritime shipping to and from Japan. |
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| darth User ID: 76659972 United States01/22/2019 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We did nothing when they took Tibet, and it's vast riches in minerals and such, because of international relations.. what makes you think we'll do something if they take Taiwan? Quoting: Waiting On The Moon I hear ya, and proof will be in the pudding as they say. I do believe that once China comes for Taiwan, the US will likely be brought into it, as to do nothing would give China complete control of the strategic waterways, and such Chinese action will force several APAC nations to act. Example - Taiwan and Japan’s Collective Self-Defense July 02, 2014 [link to thediplomat.com (secure)] China conquering and occupying Taiwan would present about as clear a danger to Japan’s survival as any event short of an attack on Japan itself. The Senkaku Islands are roughly half the distance from Taiwan as they are from mainland China, which would allow Beijing to bring far more force to bear in an attack on them. It would also allow Beijing to approach the islands from roughly two different directions. Furthermore, Taiwan’s strategic location would greatly enhance China’s ability to interdict maritime shipping to and from Japan. I don't have the link handy, but recently on GLP there was a thread about a Chicom general giving a speech on their long range plans. He told a group of military officers that they had to conquer not only Taiwan, but also Viet Nam, Japan, and, eventually, the USA. He also made it clear that he and many others believed that the Chinese are a superior race who evolved separately from the "barbarians" in the other nations. Reminds me of a certain German leader who preached racial superiority and destiny. Turned out poorly for the poor schmucks who followed him. BTW, for the conspiracy theorists here, Japan claims it does NOT have nukes. However, I am told by my sources in intel that this can change in 15 minutes as they assemble the components. The Japanese are well aware of the hatred the nuke armed behemoth has for them. I would expect the Chicoms to use tsunami bombs as I suspect they already have. |
| WalrusRider User ID: 77184743 United States01/22/2019 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China consumed Tibet. They're in the process of consuming Africa. They're illegally laying claim to a vast body of international water that is neighbored by multiple other countries, and they are making threats against other countries that enter that body of water. They're buying up territory all over the world -- and soon, they will invade Taiwan. This can't continue. A clear line needs to be drawn somewhere. The Chinese empire cannot be allowed to expand any further. Allowing them to do so just puts us at a larger disadvantage when war does inevitably occur. All billionaires, banksters, and people in high-ranking positions of power (both public and private) who have not openly and strongly come out against woke ideology and globalism are our enemies - as are their minions. They are the NWO. |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 10523453 United States01/22/2019 03:08 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck the Chicoms. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| Jake User ID: 76890717 United States01/22/2019 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and never forget it was the Liberals brilliant Idea to build up China. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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| Agent MIB User ID: 44079930  Philippines01/22/2019 03:44 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Had President Truman let MacArthur fight the commies using his own strategy, China wouldn't be communist. During the Korean conflict, MacArthur's plan was for the US to provide support for the Chinese nationalists on Formosa (Taiwan) to invade mainland China from the South. Meanwhile, US and ROK forces would secure the entire Korean peninsula and attack China from the North. Instead, Truman was a NWO stooge and fired MacArthur. I could go on about Patton's assassination ("accident") and his plan to use combined US/German (yes, German) forces to push Russian forces out of Eastern Europe. But that is another topic. People forget that China throughout its history has never invaded its East Asian arch nemesis, Japan. Yet, Imperial Japanese forces easily occupied large areas of China and Southeast Asia during WW2. China also tried to annex part of Vietnam in 1979 and got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese. So how does China expect to invade Taiwan? Sure they can exchange missile barrages with Taiwan. Taiwanese air defenses would shoot down any Chinese aircraft. China has nukes, but can't use them. They need Taiwan intact to be of any use. If China did use nukes, they would have to not only target Taiwan, but Japan, ROK and Guam. China could be wiped out by a single US Navy Ohio class sub in the Western Pacific. When it comes down to invasion forces, China still faces the same problem its had throughout history. How do they expect to get PLA troops to Taiwan and maintain supply lines? Their navy would be at the bottom of the Taiwan Straight. Taiwan is no Tibet. The Imperial Chinese are overconfident in their ability. They have yet to prove their combat effectiveness. Not only is China saber rattling with Taiwan and US East Asian allies, they are provoking India as well. India is not happy with China PLA forces building hardened bunkers in disputed territories along India/China/Bhutan borders. The Chinese Dragon will quickly learn it is a paper tiger. You are born with the truth, then taught a lie. |
| Agent MIB User ID: 44079930 Philippines01/22/2019 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We did nothing when they took Tibet, and it's vast riches in minerals and such, because of international relations.. what makes you think we'll do something if they take Taiwan? Quoting: Waiting On The Moon I hear ya, and proof will be in the pudding as they say. I do believe that once China comes for Taiwan, the US will likely be brought into it, as to do nothing would give China complete control of the strategic waterways, and such Chinese action will force several APAC nations to act. Example - Taiwan and Japan’s Collective Self-Defense July 02, 2014 [link to thediplomat.com (secure)] China conquering and occupying Taiwan would present about as clear a danger to Japan’s survival as any event short of an attack on Japan itself. The Senkaku Islands are roughly half the distance from Taiwan as they are from mainland China, which would allow Beijing to bring far more force to bear in an attack on them. It would also allow Beijing to approach the islands from roughly two different directions. Furthermore, Taiwan’s strategic location would greatly enhance China’s ability to interdict maritime shipping to and from Japan. I don't have the link handy, but recently on GLP there was a thread about a Chicom general giving a speech on their long range plans. He told a group of military officers that they had to conquer not only Taiwan, but also Viet Nam, Japan, and, eventually, the USA. He also made it clear that he and many others believed that the Chinese are a superior race who evolved separately from the "barbarians" in the other nations. Reminds me of a certain German leader who preached racial superiority and destiny. Turned out poorly for the poor schmucks who followed him. BTW, for the conspiracy theorists here, Japan claims it does NOT have nukes. However, I am told by my sources in intel that this can change in 15 minutes as they assemble the components. The Japanese are well aware of the hatred the nuke armed behemoth has for them. I would expect the Chicoms to use tsunami bombs as I suspect they already have. Japan doesn't have nuclear bombs, but US forces stationed throughout East Asia and the Western Pacific do. Speaking of tsunami bombs, how well do you think those illegal artificial islands in the South China Sea would fare against such a hypothetical weapon? You are born with the truth, then taught a lie. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34398756 United States01/22/2019 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chinese men eat aborted fetus powder capsules for "vitality and libido." I'm not afraid of one or two little Chinese, but you put that whole country together in a collective war-effort, watch the fuck out. They will absolutely sacrifice their own people like we can hardly imagine. I'm talking eating their own if they had to. Like human cock roaches. |
| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China's military strategy shift sparks new concerns Jan. 22, 2019 - 3:35 - State news agency reports the Chinese land army now makes up less than half of the total number of troops, as China boosts its military power in the air, sea and cyberspace [link to video.foxnews.com (secure)] China's hypersonic weapons can sink U.S. aircraft carriers, state media says Jan. 22 [link to www.upi.com (secure)] China plans to deploy midrange ballistic missiles capable of destroying U.S. aircraft carriers by 2020, according to multiple state media reports. |
| Anonymous Cowarcl User ID: 77307421  Canada01/22/2019 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was at school in the mid-1980's, there was a kid in my class whose father had been the Governor of the Falkland Isles. He repeatedly warned us that Argentina was preparing to invade within a few years. We all laughed and laughed at him and told him that was nonsense, that Argentina would never risk an all out war with Britain. WHOOPS. We got that wrong, didn't we? It all feels the same now about China and Taiwan. s |
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| AC.GLP (OP) User ID: 77130748 United States01/22/2019 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not one bit. the Island belongs to China. a band of Chinese hippies took-over the Island in 1948 and China has been too nice, over the years, letting them have it. Well, that's your opinion, but not that shared by a lot of other people. I have a good friend that is Taiwanese, and he had shared with me once that Taiwan has a population that consists both of people that fled China after the Communists defeat of Chiang Kai-shek's forces in 1949, and of people that were native Taiwanese that had been there for generations prior. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States01/22/2019 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not one bit. the Island belongs to China. a band of Chinese hippies took-over the Island in 1948 and China has been too nice, over the years, letting them have it. Well, that's your opinion, but not that shared by a lot of other people. I have a good friend that is Taiwanese, and he had shared with me once that Taiwan has a population that consists both of people that fled China after the Communists defeat of Chiang Kai-shek's forces in 1949, and of people that were native Taiwanese that had been there for generations prior. well, the indigenous native are probly still making straw baskets. |
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| Agent MIB User ID: 44079930 Philippines01/22/2019 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not one bit. the Island belongs to China. a band of Chinese hippies took-over the Island in 1948 and China has been too nice, over the years, letting them have it. Well, that's your opinion, but not that shared by a lot of other people. I have a good friend that is Taiwanese, and he had shared with me once that Taiwan has a population that consists both of people that fled China after the Communists defeat of Chiang Kai-shek's forces in 1949, and of people that were native Taiwanese that had been there for generations prior. well, the indigenous native are probly still making straw baskets. You're probably a soy boy living in your mother's basement. You are born with the truth, then taught a lie. |
