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Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue

 
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Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
But the Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s Southeast Asia correspondent Liam Cochrane says in his book, “The Cave“, that the boys were in fact drugged with ketamine and handcuffed on their journey out of the cave.

It was revealed during the rescue that the boys were mildly sedated to stop them panicking during the rescue — but the truth is much more complex.

The boys received far stronger drugs, and they were handcuffed behind their backs to stop them ripping off their face mask should they wake up.

“To calm nerves, the parents were told the boys were being taught how to dive and the media reported that each of them would be tethered to an air hose and then swim out with one rescue diver in front and another behind,” Cochrane writes in his book.

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I’m just glad they were able to safely rescue them. The situation was dire & oftentimes looked bleak.
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But the Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s Southeast Asia correspondent Liam Cochrane says in his book, “The Cave“, that the boys were in fact drugged with ketamine and handcuffed on their journey out of the cave.

It was revealed during the rescue that the boys were mildly sedated to stop them panicking during the rescue — but the truth is much more complex.

The boys received far stronger drugs, and they were handcuffed behind their backs to stop them ripping off their face mask should they wake up.

“To calm nerves, the parents were told the boys were being taught how to dive and the media reported that each of them would be tethered to an air hose and then swim out with one rescue diver in front and another behind,” Cochrane writes in his book.

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better than no return at all
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Wow

I suppose they needed to get them out safely so it must have been the best option at the time
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01/27/2019 10:19 AM
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so fucking what
they had too
they did it
they got out
CELEBRATE THAT
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01/27/2019 10:23 AM
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They're alive.
Kinda the important part.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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01/27/2019 10:28 AM
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Re: Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
Since when did Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s Southeast Asia correspondent Liam Cochrane become such an expert?

Was he in the cave too?

This is sounding like a piece Elon Musk would magic up.

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01/27/2019 10:41 AM
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Possibly drugged to hide the other drugs in their system in how they got in their in the first place.

Still makes NO SENSE how they were brought down there and for what purpose.
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01/27/2019 10:51 AM
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As a diver myself, I can understand why this was necessary. If I were a much better diver and were trying to rescue them, I would demand the same thing, so they wouldn't kill themselves and possibly me too.
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Ever done ‘Special K’ back in the rave days? Ketamine/cat tranquilizer.

Those kids enjoyed the ride. chuckle
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Bet that won't be in the Hollywood movie in which a deal was made before the rescue was complete.

As a diver myself, I can understand why this was necessary. If I were a much better diver and were trying to rescue them, I would demand the same thing, so they wouldn't kill themselves and possibly me too.
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I agree. However the entire story had a very fishy side.

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Possibly drugged to hide the other drugs in their system in how they got in their in the first place.

Still makes NO SENSE how they were brought down there and for what purpose.
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Just young boys cave exploring, THEN the cave behind flooded their only exit route.

In total it took SIX HOURS just to get one kid out in near zero visibility.

Amazing really they were able to get them all out at all.
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I watched the Thai Cave Rescue Documentary when aired on Public TV in the USA

They specifically talked about Drugging the children and binding hands to make it out of the cave safely

There was no coverup on the documentary which was on public over the air broadcast
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01/27/2019 12:01 PM
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the author was on Coast2Coast last week +- and told the whole story - the underwater trek out was 5-6 hours through (under) Mud-like Water - which would have most likely cause panic for any average person ... so said the rescuers
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01/27/2019 12:29 PM
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The kids got out safe, that's all that matters

The journo trying to make a few dollars on a book by writing BS
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The kids got out safe, that's all that matters

The journo trying to make a few dollars on a book by writing BS
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I agree. But still interesting to hear the finer details.
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so fucking what
they had too
they did it
they got out
CELEBRATE THAT

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Re: Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
It was an amazing rescue. Lots of really good ideas and good people working the problem.

It's worth reading the entire article, just unbelievable stuff they were able to pull off.

One diver even had to leave his kid on the bottom for a few minutes while he cut the kid loose from something he was stuck on, which he said would have been near impossible if the kid was alert and awake.

Not the kind of amazing ingenuity you expect from folks in those third world bizarro places. Well done.
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Re: Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
the author was on Coast2Coast last week +- and told the whole story - the underwater trek out was 5-6 hours through (under) Mud-like Water - which would have most likely cause panic for any average person ... so said the rescuers
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That would have panicked me after about 3 minutes! The drugs were a blessing. I see no conspiracy.

I look at it sort of like putting someone under for surgery. Maybe it's not a perfect analogy, but I do think the rescues in a tight dark space with sharp edges would have been disastrous with any kind of panic, flailing, fighting, etc.
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Better drugged and handcuffed than dead
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Re: Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
But the Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s Southeast Asia correspondent Liam Cochrane says in his book, “The Cave“, that the boys were in fact drugged with ketamine and handcuffed on their journey out of the cave.

It was revealed during the rescue that the boys were mildly sedated to stop them panicking during the rescue — but the truth is much more complex.

The boys received far stronger drugs, and they were handcuffed behind their backs to stop them ripping off their face mask should they wake up.

“To calm nerves, the parents were told the boys were being taught how to dive and the media reported that each of them would be tethered to an air hose and then swim out with one rescue diver in front and another behind,” Cochrane writes in his book.

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 Quoting: HAWK-03


so I see why the media needs scandal to get viewers and why this guy wants to push his book.. fair enough...

but anyone had better ideas to fix the problem then they are welcome to lay them out there.
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means justify end
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means justify end
 Quoting: Samuel Colt


Mhm. We're talking about 6 hours of torture to save their lives.

Not a life of torture to end them.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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COWARDS ATTACKING LIFESAVING HEROES TISK TISK.
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Re: Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
How much cheaper are live training drills than crisis acting production?

Ketamine, provides hallucinations, sedation, and amnesia of event...its not the best choice to incapacitate... not a paralytic.a paralytic would not necessitate handcuffs...young, hypothermic, malnourished, dehydrated, in shock.. .not needed, and would be likely to kill a patient in such state.
PS sports teams, the amateur athletic union variety all play by age ranges very close a two year age difference Max on team. This alone warrants a big red flag.
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Re: Handcuffed and drugged: Truth behind Thai cave rescue
so fucking what
they had too
they did it
they got out
CELEBRATE THAT

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they had two

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