YHWH the False Creator. YHWH the Creator of the Slave Race Man. | |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who says we were created non-telepathic? We aren't telepathic *now* (generally), but we don't have a lot of the details regarding Adam & Eve - for those of us bible suckers who accept scripture, anyway. Quoting: MuadDib987If Adam and Eve were telepathic Lucifer could not have fooled them. If Adam and Eve were telepathic, would they not have known it was a test? ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, but as slaves, what is our bidding? Whom do we serve? What do we serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 280460That's the questions that need answered. Now the game is afoot... ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326730 United States 11/15/2007 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 303602 United States 11/15/2007 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Adam and Eve were telepathic Lucifer could not have fooled them. If Adam and Eve were telepathic, would they not have known it was a test? Quoting: HardTruthI don't know. I won't pretend to know how telepathy works, or whether it was a literal snake, or a dinosaur, or a grey alien who tricked them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 326906 Portugal 11/15/2007 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Adam and Eve were telepathic Lucifer could not have fooled them. If Adam and Eve were telepathic, would they not have known it was a test? Quoting: HardTruth'Lucifer' did not fool anyone. He told the truth and only the truth. The subsequent events were created by the wrath of a lying god. And no, I'm not satanic, but neither i believe in the 'Christian god'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 272315 United States 11/15/2007 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326730So, were is the good GOD, or were is the good human, the CHOSEN ONE is HE out there ? Is HE exactly what the bible say's ? Does it matter what people think, even if they have everything, this world can give them, but, do they have LIFE, or are they dead, even though they should live?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 280460 United States 11/15/2007 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore. |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272315So, were is the good GOD, or were is the good human, the CHOSEN ONE is HE out there ? Is HE exactly what the bible say's ? Does it matter what people think, even if they have everything, this world can give them, but, do they have LIFE, or are they dead, even though they should live?? Ive got a feeling that YHWH got into big trouble for creating man. Set into motion something bigger than even he could comprehend....Speculation? Maybe. ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 280460Youre probally closer to the truth than you know... ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 303602 United States 11/15/2007 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Lucifer' did not fool anyone. He told the truth and only the truth. The subsequent events were created by the wrath of a lying god. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326906And no, I'm not satanic, but neither i believe in the 'Christian god'. Yeah, Lucifer does tend to paint himself as a beleaguered hero, selflessly sharing his truth with us oppressed humans. Thank goodness we've been delivered from that awful, awful paradise, and that monstrous Father who would dare allow us to face cause & effect. |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Lucifer' did not fool anyone. He told the truth and only the truth. The subsequent events were created by the wrath of a lying god. Quoting: MuadDib987And no, I'm not satanic, but neither i believe in the 'Christian god'. Yeah, Lucifer does tend to paint himself as a beleaguered hero, selflessly sharing his truth with us oppressed humans. Thank goodness we've been delivered from that awful, awful paradise, and that monstrous Father who would dare allow us to face cause & effect. Would it not be more to Lucifers character to create slaves and say he was god? ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 280460 United States 11/15/2007 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore. Quoting: HardTruthYoure probally closer to the truth than you know... ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! Well, perhaps I am. Would you care to steer the direction a bit? |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 280460Youre probally closer to the truth than you know... ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! Well, perhaps I am. Would you care to steer the direction a bit? Maybe they cant use us the way they did once before. Even though still primative in the larger scale of things, however were not as easily intimidated or frightened with technology that seems magical. Now we can fight back, albeit primative, but still make a dent in the armour so to speak.. ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
sea sick User ID: 326847 Canada 11/15/2007 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The majority of this world are in dishonour, never accepting responsibility. Now which being accepted you? Your sin? Your faults & liabilities? Only one. That's for you to realize and live by the example. |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are all here until we accept responsibility for our own actions. Acceptance is the key to everything, don't argue always accept everything even if false you can always do a conditional acceptance so you can remain in honour. Quoting: sea sick 326847The majority of this world are in dishonour, never accepting responsibility. Now which being accepted you? Your sin? Your faults & liabilities? Only one. That's for you to realize and live by the example. Sure we should take responsibility for our actions. Why should I be responsible for Adam and Eves? I did nothing wrong. The christians bible it is stated: The law was given that sin might abound. Simplified it means, without the law there would be no sin. Im not guilty of anything unless something or someone can make me believe it. Im sure as hell not responsible for Adam and Eve's so called sin. My opinion is of such that its an excuse for our slavery by the ultimate powers that be... ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 303602 United States 11/15/2007 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure we should take responsibility for our actions. Why should I be responsible for Adam and Eves? I did nothing wrong. The christians bible it is stated: Quoting: HardTruthThe law was given that sin might abound. Simplified it means, without the law there would be no sin. Im not guilty of anything unless something or someone can make me believe it. Im sure as hell not responsible for Adam and Eve's so called sin. My opinion is of such that its an excuse for our slavery by the ultimate powers that be... True, the law is what reveals guilt, but even without it, we're still *defective*. The law shows us how seriously we need the remedy of execution-by-proxy offered in Christ. It's a little like being x-rayed. . .the picture can expose a fracture which requires healing. You can reject the x-ray if you like, but you'll still limp. Had I been there in place of Adam or Eve, I likely would have disobeyed just like they did. As their offspring, I can't assume I would have done otherwise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326730 United States 11/15/2007 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed. Quoting: HardTruthSo, were is the good GOD, or were is the good human, the CHOSEN ONE is HE out there ? Is HE exactly what the bible say's ? Does it matter what people think, even if they have everything, this world can give them, but, do they have LIFE, or are they dead, even though they should live?? Ive got a feeling that YHWH got into big trouble for creating man. Set into motion something bigger than even he could comprehend....Speculation? Maybe. ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure we should take responsibility for our actions. Why should I be responsible for Adam and Eves? I did nothing wrong. The christians bible it is stated: Quoting: MuadDib987The law was given that sin might abound. Simplified it means, without the law there would be no sin. Im not guilty of anything unless something or someone can make me believe it. Im sure as hell not responsible for Adam and Eve's so called sin. My opinion is of such that its an excuse for our slavery by the ultimate powers that be... True, the law is what reveals guilt, but even without it, we're still *defective*. The law shows us how seriously we need the remedy of execution-by-proxy offered in Christ. It's a little like being x-rayed. . .the picture can expose a fracture which requires healing. You can reject the x-ray if you like, but you'll still limp. Had I been there in place of Adam or Eve, I likely would have disobeyed just like they did. As their offspring, I can't assume I would have done otherwise. Why would a loving creator, create US with flaws and then hold US responsible for them? Im not buying that story. Somethings missing...big time.. ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326730 United States 11/15/2007 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are all here until we accept responsibility for our own actions. Acceptance is the key to everything, don't argue always accept everything even if false you can always do a conditional acceptance so you can remain in honour. Quoting: sea sick 326847The majority of this world are in dishonour, never accepting responsibility. Now which being accepted you? Your sin? Your faults & liabilities? Only one. That's for you to realize and live by the example. my acceptance and honor will not prevent tptb from mass murdering. do you reckon the god in that book accepts responsibility? hello.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 303602 United States 11/15/2007 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would a loving creator, create US with flaws and then hold US responsible for them? Im not buying that story. Somethings missing...big time.. Quoting: HardTruthFair enough. May I sincerely ask how things are going for you? When I used to cuss God out, it was always when I was hurting. (Please disregard if this comes across as condescending). |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 326850 United States 11/15/2007 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would a loving creator, create US with flaws and then hold US responsible for them? Im not buying that story. Somethings missing...big time.. Quoting: MuadDib987Fair enough. May I sincerely ask how things are going for you? When I used to cuss God out, it was always when I was hurting. (Please disregard if this comes across as condescending). Im not hurting, or cusing god. Im in the same place as all here. Slavery under the powers that be. Only difference is im trying to get to the ultimate source of the conspiracy. All conspiracies ultimatly seems to lead straight back to the bible. Im cusing the bullshit stories were all being sold. ___________ Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 303602 United States 11/15/2007 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Slavery under the powers that be. Quoting: HardTruthWould you describe the nature of this slavery? To me, a slave consists of an exploited child trapped in an Asian brothel or a coke addict throwing everything away just to get his daily fix. I'm curious whether we're on the same page here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326730 United States 11/15/2007 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would it not be more to Lucifers character to create slaves and say he was god? Quoting: MuadDib987Certainly. He does it to this day. |
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