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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 United States 07/21/2009 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read TRUTH Seconded, I move to observe the content of said bill... Better learn folks if you want to change it....they are constant in their attacks on liberty- bait and switch-double speak and subterfuge ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 612570 United States 07/21/2009 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read www.vgoc.org |
Enlilson User ID: 726235 United States 07/21/2009 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read Printz v. U.S. (521 U.S. 898) the U.S. Supreme Court struck Brady down. Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the ruling for the Court, in which he explained our system of government at length. The justly revered system of checks and balances is the key: “. . . The great innovation of this design was that ‘our citizens would have two political capacities, one state and one federal, each protected from incursion by the other’” – “a legal system unprecedented in form and design, establishing two orders of government, each with its own direct relationship, its own privity, its own set of mutual rights and obligations to the people who sustain it and are governed by it.” (P. 920) It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse |
mfgl User ID: 616779 United States 07/21/2009 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read The feds already have a database. Permit holders are not protected in any way. When you apply for your permit you have to get the same background check thru the fbi that you get when you purchase a handgun. If you think those records arent shared your high. Also this is barely an issue. Most states that allow ccw are already in a reciprocity agreement with every other state that allows it. |
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Cranky User ID: 586322 United States 07/21/2009 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." This LAW was ratified to PROHIBIT the GOVERNMENT from in any way infringing on the RIGHT OF THE PEEEEPOLE! |
Enlilson User ID: 726235 United States 07/21/2009 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read There was a recent ruling in California that reaffirmed the role of the Sheriff with regards to concealed weapons permit. The feds could make a law it just has to be able to with stand a court challenge. It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse |
Evil Twin 07/21/2009 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read There is already a Federal Law that makes it our responsibility and right to own and carry weapons called the 2nd Amendment! Quoting: Cranky"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." This LAW was ratified to PROHIBIT the GOVERNMENT from in any way infringing on the RIGHT OF THE PEEEEPOLE! [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 669410 United States 07/21/2009 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read Nothing that comes from Washington DC should be trusted. The whole country would be a lot better off if we could do away with 90% of the federal government and return state and local governments rule back to the several states and local municipalites. My right to keep and bare arms is not just something the federal government benevolently allows me and neither should the carry permit I purchase from my state and local officials. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 615694 United States 07/21/2009 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 564424 United States 07/21/2009 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read The feds already have a database. Permit holders are not protected in any way. When you apply for your permit you have to get the same background check thru the fbi that you get when you purchase a handgun. If you think those records arent shared your high. Also this is barely an issue. Most states that allow ccw are already in a reciprocity agreement with every other state that allows it. Quoting: mfglWhile it's true that anyone who has ever bought a brand new gun has been put in a database (illegally). It is not true that Most states are in reciprocity agreements with other states. In fact most states will only have such agreements with a handful of states 1-5 typically. More reciprocity is needed, but not this. Not Federal control. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 571008 United States 07/21/2009 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read Good .. Cause people who believed you had to register your property with the federal government are extremely dangerous .. I bet ya if you could convince these people to vote, they'd prolly sign up for a new government witohut even knowing it. oh wait .... did I say that ....? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 571008 United States 07/21/2009 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read There was a recent ruling in California that reaffirmed the role of the Sheriff with regards to concealed weapons permit. Quoting: EnlilsonThe feds could make a law it just has to be able to with stand a court challenge. Feds can't make law ... They can only convince you that the rules that apply to only them ... apply to you ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357422 United States 07/21/2009 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read Don't conceal it then. [link to opencarry.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 693241 United States 07/21/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read All this will do is take the guns away from honest folks. Then, for protection, everyone will get unregistered weapons- if it passes, which it won't. Obama and them are powerful, but not omnipotent. There are enough hunters and sports shooters who won't give up their guns- and hunters need hand guns just like they need rifles (to kill the animal if the first shot doesn't do the whole job). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 526297 United States 07/21/2009 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read All this will do is take the guns away from honest folks. Then, for protection, everyone will get unregistered weapons- if it passes, which it won't. Obama and them are powerful, but not omnipotent. There are enough hunters and sports shooters who won't give up their guns- and hunters need hand guns just like they need rifles (to kill the animal if the first shot doesn't do the whole job). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693241Sometimes I wonder ... |
JohnnyCarcinogen User ID: 721860 United States 07/22/2009 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read Below is the breakdown (Warning.. PDF file) [link to www.ooida.com] None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 615694 United States 07/22/2009 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy Crap Feds Are Going To Take Over Concealed Carry Permits With New Reciprocity Law Please Read Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are referring to the Thune amendment that does not have anything to do with the hate crime bill. It doesn't even seem to increase federal involvement unless I overlooked something. Quoting: JohnnyCarcinogenBelow is the breakdown (Warning.. PDF file) [link to www.ooida.com] I think what some groups are saying is that if they pass this you will have some kind of federal oversite. Probably a database and how would they do it? Would you have Vermont's law apply to everybody or California. Once this goes to the Feds and not the state it could open up a can of worms. I think that is the point the group is trying to make although the language of the bill is vague and doesn't really state how they would put this in place. Another vaguely worded law imagine that. |