So has anyone here REALLY done astral travel?

haha, anyone denying astral projection either has an agenda to serve or has lost touch with the childlike natural ability to project and lucid dream...

so, the people here who are trying to debunk this are here to convince those with an interest, not an experience... i can say with a rather strong convinction and anyone here who has experienced a projection has seen themselves lying in bed, and experienced that, and nothing can shake that.

:)

Small potatoes.

I've been doing this naturally since I was a child, my peeps were doing this a thousand years ago. Even then, they knew people like you were useless.

And, ye still are today.

WTF does it matter if you see blue people?

Nothing you have experienced can be quantified.

Bring back the future, then maybe you and I can palaver.

Until then, enjoy your mental masturbation.

gotta go for a bit, but a question for those who have experienced astral..

have you ever been "placed" into someone else's dream?
i say placed because i have never intended or meant to intrude, i am always PUT there by a force i do not control.
this has been confirmed twice by friends/family, and i have had many experiences i did not mention because i felt, in a sense, they would either not understand or, if they did, feel intruded by my presence there..

it is strange, they cannot see you if they are not very aware, and it's almost like my reality is distorted and quite literally imbedded in their reality. strange things like positions, structures, buildings meld together with other structures that do not make sense- my reality literally merging with theirs.

it was confusing for a while, and i haven't had another joint dream in a while. i think this is because i do not like intruding on other's private, intimate dreamworlds unless invited.. but i was wondering if anyone else has stumbled into a dream NOT of their own. any stories?

Small potatoes.

I've been doing this naturally since I was a child, my peeps were doing this a thousand years ago. Even then, they knew people like you were useless.

And, ye still are today.

WTF does it matter if you see blue people?

Nothing you have experienced can be quantified.

Bring back the future, then maybe you and I can palaver.

Until then, enjoy your mental masturbation.




How amusing -

that I will go out of my way to communicate an experience in an honest, down to earth manner - in an attempt not to inject my more significant philosophical perspectives on the matter;

…an attempt to offer my experience without bias attached to it... inviting others to take the mundane aspects and the profound and find a common fascination... interpretation.

So, for you my wise friend, I will stroke your ego since it protrudes away from your mind at such an angle that its reach is much closer than most.

In my attempts at coming to grips with the sudden experience of being without physical form, but with the extreme sense that I must persist for some greater cause - I suddenly thought,

"What if some lowlife arrogant prick on a conspiracy forum wishes to challenge my belief in the state I know that I am experiencing - at this moment?!? What, pray tell, will I have to show him as to puzzle this intellect into accepting that he is not the master of his reality – only his perceived reality!"

Then I decided (in that altered state, 6 years ago) that, if you did show up to a discussion such as this in the future to challenge my assertions, it would be useless to try and convince you of the sheer possibilities that exist within our sphere of knowledge/potential - as you undoubtedly are certain as to the nature of the universe (having experienced a whole 23 years of it)...

But, alas... no need! For once you reached the point of understanding that not all of us are telling stories of fiction today, you decide that you are a guru in the field.

Scared much?

…that your ability to experience and interpret soooo much more has everything to do with your pointed attitude... by the sheer nature of your competitiveness, your built-in defense mechanism –

You Win! (Cause you always do – every time - right?)

WRONG!! -

In the world of “Emptying your Cup” we take ourselves OUT of the equation! You would know this if you were remotely as experienced as you think you want someone to believe.

I say NAY!

You can't!

For your hopeless kind to be able to leave your ego - would be to tear apart the fabric of your generation!

You were raised with the notion of instant gratification and therefore do not recognize opportunities to humble yourself before the wise as she reveals secrets locked behind the veil!

It is your, "Sure you can... but I'm better than you" attitude (so self fulfilling) that orphans you from the sheer reality where you obtain anything but a contrived nod from the people that you think are your friends!

You are a silly neophyte with no respect for the world outside - ”without”...

WITHOUT... YOU!!

This statement would hurt others... to you, nay... "Words", mere words... for your kind can hardly imagine a world beyond yourself or your self-convincing, self-aggrandizing, biocentric reality…

…the one were the other people within your vision are mere figments of your imagination!

Your struggle with destroying the ego becomes its opportunity to RULE you… as it does:


Your tune:

I'm becoming less defined, as days go by
Fading away, well you might say I'm losing focus
Kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself

Sometimes, I think I can see right through myself
Sometimes, I think I can see right through myself
Sometimes, I can see right through myself

Less concerned, about fitting into the world
Your world that is, cause it doesn't really matter anymore (no, it doesn't really matter anymore)
No, it doesn't really matter anymore
None of this really matters anymore

Yes I am alone but then again I always was
As far back as I can tell, I think maybe it's because
because you were never really real to begin with
I just made you up, to hurt myself

I just made you up to hurt myself
Yeah, and I just made you up to hurt myself
I just made you up to hurt myself
Yeah, and I just made you up to hurt myself

And it worked
Yes it did!

There is no you, there is only me
There is no you, there is only me
There is no fucking you, there is only me
There is no fucking you, there is only me

Only
Only
Only
Only

Well the tiniest little dot caught my eye and it turned out to be a scab
And I had this funny feeling, like I just knew it's something bad

I just couldn't leave it alone
I've been picking at that scab
It was a doorway trying to seal itself shut
But I climbed through

Now I'm somewhere I am not supposed to be
And I can see things I know I really shouldn't see
And now I know why now, now I know why
Things aren't as pretty, on the inside

There is no you, there is only me
There is no you, there is only me
There is no fucking you, there is only me
There is no fucking you, there is only me

Only
Only
Only
Only
Only
Only
Only
Only

Astral travel is also called dreaming. Look up lucid dreaming for more on conscious astral traveling.

Then tell me how I have the ability to go and listen to peoples conversations and then tell them about them later?

It is not a dream... I honestly can leave my body and go observe things...

Then tell me how I have the ability to go and listen to peoples conversations and then tell them about them later?

It is not a dream... I honestly can leave my body and go observe things...

Did I ever say "waking life" wasn't a dream?

Anyone else here that can do this will agree with this statement and know I am telling the truth:

One you part from your body, that very moment you can leave AND *FAST* right straight up and out into space... AND I MEAN FAST. There is a loud noise and then it goes quiet for me... I can move through the solar system at unreal speeds...

When I am finished I can easily return to my body which happens at an instant and is followed with a loud humming noise for a couple seconds (like an electrical transformer).

Those that can do this know these above truths.

Can someone please tell me if this is an astral experience, or what the hell it was:

I was lying down with the intention of astral projecting, but just relaxing with my eyes closed. I then lose my awareness and enter into a trance state.

The next thing i know is im sorta half out of my physical body, and my physical body seems slightly translucent. I am viewing from a place just outside of my skull, or upon my shoulder, very hard to pinpoint exactly where. I feel this incredible energy rushing up through my body, and something explodes inside my head. It feels like this energy is now shooting out the top of my head in a fountain that looks like this Egyptian headdress: [link to www.sciencemuseum.org.uk]

I can't begin to describe how much pleasure and ecstacy i felt at that moment, it was like a sexual orgasm x 1000, and all over the body/mind.

At the culmination of this experience, i am suddenly immersed in a sort of sphere of bright light and colour, somewhat 3D information/fractal like quality to it. It is all around me. I am saying to myself, "Slow down! What is this?!" over and over.. as i say this, the whole scene stops morphing about and pauses, becoming completely stationary..

A mirror image of myself appears infront of me. It winks at me in a brotherly kind of way, very loving. At this moment i am pulled back into my physical body, then immediately thrown out again in a out-of-body experience.. im quite bamboozled at this point, so i just drift up to the end of my bed, examine the Jimi Hendrix poster there, then i black out/wake up..

What i want to know is, what was that sphere of light i was immersed in? It seemed very similar to a DMT trip, same feeling and amazing colours/information everywhere.

Appreciate all comments. thanks!

Astral travel is also called dreaming. Look up lucid dreaming for more on conscious astral traveling.

Can someone please tell me if this is an astral experience, or what the hell it was:

I was lying down with the intention of astral projecting, but just relaxing with my eyes closed. I then lose my awareness and enter into a trance state.

The next thing i know is im sorta half out of my physical body, and my physical body seems slightly translucent. I am viewing from a place just outside of my skull, or upon my shoulder, very hard to pinpoint exactly where. I feel this incredible energy rushing up through my body, and something explodes inside my head. It feels like this energy is now shooting out the top of my head in a fountain that looks like this Egyptian headdress: [link to www.sciencemuseum.org.uk]

I can't begin to describe how much pleasure and ecstacy i felt at that moment, it was like a sexual orgasm x 1000, and all over the body/mind.

At the culmination of this experience, i am suddenly immersed in a sort of sphere of bright light and colour, somewhat 3D information/fractal like quality to it. It is all around me. I am saying to myself, "Slow down! What is this?!" over and over.. as i say this, the whole scene stops morphing about and pauses, becoming completely stationary..

A mirror image of myself appears infront of me. It winks at me in a brotherly kind of way, very loving. At this moment i am pulled back into my physical body, then immediately thrown out again in a out-of-body experience.. im quite bamboozled at this point, so i just drift up to the end of my bed, examine the Jimi Hendrix poster there, then i black out/wake up..

What i want to know is, what was that sphere of light i was immersed in? It seemed very similar to a DMT trip, same feeling and amazing colours/information everywhere.

Appreciate all comments. thanks!


I have a friend who had a similar experience. He was in Mexico on vacation, reading a book by Carlos Castenadas, and as he read the very last period at the end of the very last sentence of the book, he says that a lightning bolt of energy ran up his spine and out the top of his head. He said that there was a picture on the wall opposite him of an Aztec warrior and that the warrior was wearing plumed headgear that reminded him of what he had just experienced.

Wild stuff.

haha, anyone denying astral projection either has an agenda to serve or has lost touch with the childlike natural ability to project and lucid dream...

so, the people here who are trying to debunk this are here to convince those with an interest, not an experience... i can say with a rather strong convinction and anyone here who has experienced a projection has seen themselves lying in bed, and experienced that, and nothing can shake that.

:)


I used to listen in on my parents when I was a kid. The toughest thing I have had to do as an adult is to not use the ability for advantage over others (personal belief)

Nothing bad can happen.

When you actually astral project, you can not experience fear. You instantly become one with everything. Its a big woosh, and then you are experiencing your higher self. You should record your thoughts when you come back, so its easier to remember later.


DNA

This is 100% BS. I project daily and you definitely can and WILL experience fear and there are dangers involved.

Nothing bad can happen.

When you actually astral project, you can not experience fear. You instantly become one with everything. Its a big woosh, and then you are experiencing your higher self. You should record your thoughts when you come back, so its easier to remember later.


DNA

This is 100% BS. I project daily and you definitely can and WILL experience fear and there are dangers involved.



Then you're not doing it right.

Did you encounter different entities? Is it true there is a silver thread connected to the solar plex? What happens if you die while traveling? I would appreciate REAL accounts.

god has always lead me, whether i knew it or not. he controls the car, but he sits in the back seat and listens and whispers while i assume to drive.
i appreciate you insight, but i am confused as to how you seem to be disagreeing?
god has shown me my path, and i am constantly evaluating how i am walking. god and i are best friends, not just master and servant. he has shown me the way, but he is always reminding me, he walks it WITH me too.


This is lovely. This is my experience, too. A Very Best Friend, always there, constantly whispering encouragement and words of love...like a doting father whose child can do no wrong. The experience was life-changing and unforgettable.

Yes, I have several times.

Yes, you encounter several different kinds of entities, positive and negative, human and non-human.

No, I have never personally seen the silver cord, but most astral travelers do not.

You cannot die while traveling so your last question can't be answered.

Nothing bad can happen.

When you actually astral project, you can not experience fear. You instantly become one with everything. Its a big woosh, and then you are experiencing your higher self. You should record your thoughts when you come back, so its easier to remember later.


DNA

This is 100% BS. I project daily and you definitely can and WILL experience fear and there are dangers involved.



Then you're not doing it right.


by whose standards? yours?
there is no right or wrong way in these matters.
there are only lessons learned, intuition exercised, and moral/ethical integrity and courage built upon a foundation of truth.

your truth is different than mine, but they sound so sweet when you string them together.

danger is discerned by each person, but fear is an enemy that will teach you just as much as it will hurt you. right and wrong are obsolete, the only thing that matters is where you are now.

" I felt defensless against the ravenous demons"

Thanks, I'll NEVER attempt it now.


Please don't.

Demons can act on the soulplane, just as they can act on the physical plane.

Travelling within the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ is your only protection.

Spiritual battles are made manifest on the soulplane.


Yes, I agree. I've heard the voice of the Lord in a spiritual battle I was in, either Jesus or a warring angel. His voice was the scariest voice I have ever heard in my life, if you would be on the negative receiving end that is. His voice sounded like a cross between thunder and a whooshing sound and a little electronic vibe to it also. Very weird voice, not like a human voice at all. I always think about that voice and how authoritative it was.

Once, when I was coming back to my body to wake up, the Lord let me see this demon standing by my bed. It looked almost exactly like the Ringwraiths of Lord of the Rings. So yeah, this stuff is real and not to be taken lightly.


very true.
similar to your story, once i was lying in bed, not asleep, but relaxed, and god showed me a glimpse of the demons under my bed. they began to crawl out from underneath, hissing, trying to feed into a childlike fear i used to have. i remember the weight shifting on the bed and i astrally projected out of my body, and jumped onto these beings. i was violent, though i am not a violent person. i was enraged at what these beings had done to others. i did not know why i was angry, but it felt like a divine anger i did not call my own but was bestowed through me, as if i were a tool of god. i jumped onto these creatures and began to throttle them, toss them away. i began to chase them, dozens of them turned into thousands, and they were running for their "lives". i felt another presence there with me, and it was god, and we took the form of two wolves, and together we bit into them and slaughtered them, and chased the remaining creatures into the depths of beyond.

i woke up shaking. i am not a hateful or rage-prone person. i deal with my anger logically and peacefully. but in this dream i was overcome with something righteous, something that turned me into a white wolf, something that cast judgment and asked me to carry out what needed to be done. and i remember my jaws crunching bones and black sludge blood splattering. and i remember the glory of god scattering, like someone said earlier, the evil like cockroaches. when i was thrown back into my body, i woke up shaken and it took me a few days to settle this event down in my mind.

god is incredible.

Alright - here's my bit:



There is no "silver thread", and it's nothing like walking around (or flying, or w/e) in real life. This is hippie bullshit to help cancer patients displace their pain.

Alright - here's my bit:

I've had OOBEs since I was a kid, along with constant precognition (usually at the nearly useless span of about 10-15 minutes, but clear enough that I get confused about what time I'm in), and have really "done" astral travel.

There is no "silver thread", and it's nothing like walking around (or flying, or w/e) in real life. This is hippie bullshit to help cancer patients displace their pain.

IRL: When you are harmed or get lost you snap the fuck back into your body (hopefully). It is intensely violent and hurts like hell, but with a couple hours rest everything's fine again. If, at that moment, you can't get back into your body then you get tossed around like a ragdoll for an arbitrary amount of time and then proceed to snap back violently.

You don't walk around, your astral body is nothing like a human body, and you are not limited in terms of space and time like you are in a physical body. You're likely to be overwhelmed once you get there, as everything is quite blurry and disordered and it's difficult to function until you get used to it. One is not limited to the physical senses, so there's no "visual" analog. You don't "see yourself walking down the hall to peep on your sister" because you don't have eyes and exist in a space where every other person is a cumulation of themselves (i.e. as they might be at all ages, all moments, etc).