JABBING JUPITER - Testing the Titan | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 11/16/2010 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990606 "d" is the proposed location for first fusion inside Jupiter (based on the antipodal discharges) which the initiation of caused a blowout bubble which vented out on July 19, 2009. Subsequently, the fusion reaction has been maintained and is expanding and convecting heat in all directions. The closest possible surface area is our new "SEB revival" marks. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 11/16/2010 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, as suggested, the first possible physical event due to the proposed fusion reaction would likely be where the new disturbance in the SEB is. Heat of this intensity must be convecting out because of the delta Temperature difference has to be incredible. It has taken since May/June 2009 to reach the top? I say May/June 2009 because it took several weeks for the blowout to vent out on July 19, 2009, so the first fusion reaction likely was May/June, and the anitpodal discharge was sent out when the fusion reaction finaly reached the center of Jupiter months later. June 3 first, then August 20. 78 days between, so there was more distance and resistance on one side, the short side was the June 3 flash side. Consider May 8 the day, then it took 1.5 years to convect to the surface. Note that the UV and IR is even showing higher at the spot brighter than the already very bright UV in SEB surrounding it, so it's a very hot spot! I don't propose the fusion reaction is reaching the top, only the heat effects of it. Jupiter CAN hold a fusion reaction once it is STARTED! It just did not have the inside temps to START one. It had the proper indredients and pressure, it just needed the starting temp. to begin fusion. We will see...all wild speculation still... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1166779 India 11/16/2010 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, as suggested, the first possible physical event due to the proposed fusion reaction would likely be where the new disturbance in the SEB is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990606Heat of this intensity must be convecting out because of the delta Temperature difference has to be incredible. It has taken since May/June 2009 to reach the top? I say May/June 2009 because it took several weeks for the blowout to vent out on July 19, 2009, so the first fusion reaction likely was May/June, and the anitpodal discharge was sent out when the fusion reaction finaly reached the center of Jupiter months later. June 3 first, then August 20. 78 days between, so there was more distance and resistance on one side, the short side was the June 3 flash side. Consider May 8 the day, then it took 1.5 years to convect to the surface. Note that the UV and IR is even showing higher at the spot brighter than the already very bright UV in SEB surrounding it, so it's a very hot spot! I don't propose the fusion reaction is reaching the top, only the heat effects of it. Jupiter CAN hold a fusion reaction once it is STARTED! It just did not have the inside temps to START one. It had the proper indredients and pressure, it just needed the starting temp. to begin fusion. We will see...all wild speculation still... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 11/18/2010 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like your theory. I know it is part of much conspiracy theory, but Jupiter is actually about to get much brighter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 504787Perhaps it is our X-mas star. Good stuff to read. Thanks! Thanks! Here is another Nov. 17 in CH4 and UV: [link to www.christone.net] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 11/18/2010 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | June 3 flash image: [link to blogs.discovery.com] CM is Central Meridian in this image, so the flash is actually at 159.4 (L3), -16.1 which is the same location as our new disturbance... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 11/18/2010 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's important to understand that when using L3 you are analyzing the movement of the core of Jupiter, its true rotation period, so we are dealing with a deep internal event when these things correlate with L3. We have antipode discharge in L3, now June 3 discharge happens to be new SEB disturbance point. These are huge coincidences! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 11/18/2010 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anthony Wesley images above. He gives coords for the now 3 nodes: -13.1, 282.2 -15.2, 289.3 -17.3, 294.3 That's in L2 Here is L3: -13.1, 143.2 -15.2, 150.3 -17.3, 155.3 (compare this to -16.1, 159.4 June 3 flash) These are all very hot marks also.... |
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Sirius Dog (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 01/23/2011 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, have there been any recent observations made to either corroborate, or disprove your theory? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229Surface temps on Jupiter should be rising dramatically by now, right? That's a good question. UV has increased on the SEB band, but in the case of an deep internal event, that is proposed as 80% into Jupiter, we might not see drastic immediate changes. For instance following the Sun's fusion activity it takes 1000's of years for it to manifest at the surface, however the Sun is generally in equilibrium. In the case of Jupiter we should, from now to within years, see some major heat convection coming to the surface since the internal heat may well be 20 million degrees or more if the fusion reaction we propose actually happened. Since the temps and conditions around it have not adjusted yet, the delta T, and such, is enormous. This means the heat convection should travel fairly quickly. We ARE seeing strange activity that started at the spot of the June 2010 flash, however this may just be the SEB revival, although there are some oddities like carbon and soot features that have not dissipated from this new upwelling. The short answer is that if we wanted to verify for sure right now, we would have to point a neutrino detector at Jupiter. Those are the only particles that would immediately jump out from a fusion event, the rest can be subdued for a long time. Last Edited by Sirius Dog on 01/23/2011 11:19 AM |
Sirius Dog (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 01/23/2011 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jupiter is huge so it seems we should expect immediate evidence, but it's likely we have to wait for these things to work their way back up to the surface and it's a long journey. The fusion reaction, if happening, would spread only to about 10-20% of Jupiter radius, the Sun's fusion is said to encompass 20-30% of the radius. So we wait for the heat convection results, OR a massive stellar turnover of some sort that could be very unpredictable beings that this is an ARTIFICIAL ignition. Last Edited by Sirius Dog on 01/23/2011 12:59 PM |
Sirius Dog (OP) User ID: 990606 United States 01/23/2011 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to dreamz-work.com] My book and trailer on this are now at the above location as a PDF e-book. It will shortly be out at Amazon and Barnes and Noble also. Last Edited by Sirius Dog on 01/23/2011 11:29 AM |
Project_Deimos User ID: 1208235 United States 02/03/2011 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to dreamz-work.com] Quoting: Sirius DogMy book and trailer on this are now at the above location as a PDF e-book. It will shortly be out at Amazon and Barnes and Noble also. cool sirius! just bought it - will read it follow up.. Last Edited by Project_Deimos on 02/03/2011 01:14 PM "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
Project_Deimos User ID: 1208235 United States 02/18/2011 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only major questions I jotted down while reading through the book were these: Regarding the flash events, namely the 2-second durations of each - it makes me wonder, could there be some type of constant at work here, the reason these flashes just happened to be "roughly 2-seconds"? I'm thinking electrical here...going back to one of my prior posts about the liquid metallic layer, etc. Neutrino emissions - as has been discussed and touched on in your book, a fusion reaction would cause an increase in neutrino emissions, and these could be detected. Did you encounter any baseline neutrino emission levels in your research? I was going to look into this myself. I might come up with a few more questions but that should be a start - I really enjoy the way you presented the data, especially considering this is the first time all this has been pulled together in one place. "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |