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So you want to know who the 'Illuminati' is or are...was

 
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Thanks Toad.

I am not illuminated as there seems to always be more to learn.

To speak to the scenario in which humans program the next creation, as well as having programed this one, is something I have seen in a scifi movie. If it were so, it seems like we could have done better than this.

Adam's outlook of just saying "no" is one I often think of. They can only take from you what you are willing to give. Very much in line with the wisdom of Jesus and Gandhi. The aspect of forgiveness jumps out. I often think that if we were to tell our "leaders" we will give them a free pass if they tell the truth, start over, and do things right, it just might work out for everyone.


Sometimes I get a little too excited and state things as fact when they're really a bit more theory than anything else. I'm glad you're happy with my thoughts on declaring world peace.

Hey what does everybody think of my UFO sky submarine idea???

I don't know much about vacum, but i belive its advanced magnetics that drive the ''ufos''

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Thanks i am glad you do agree, afterall its in our face
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The natives say you can't "own" a living thing. Therefore you can't really own a piece of land. You can live on it, yuu can work on it, you can protect it, plant it, harvest it. But you cannot own it.
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First hit youtube button up top when responding then put in http address of youtube video from top of page while on youtube site. (NOT embed code) cut and paste and hit final youtube button.
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OP, I stopped reading at " whatnot". Your credibility was completely blown.
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First hit youtube button up top when responding then put in http address of youtube video from top of page while on youtube site. (NOT embed code) cut and paste and hit final youtube button.
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First hit youtube button up top when responding then put in http address of youtube video from top of page while on youtube site. (NOT embed code) cut and paste and hit final youtube button.


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Thank you
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The OP has found inspiration and has created a theory for the meaning of our life. Not only that but he has set out the groundwork for how it is possible to free ourselves. Currently we are in a state of taking from others to fulfill our needs. The OP suggests we can instead give freely and in effect receive. It achieves the same for our needs except one is peaceful, and the other one has proven to not be.

We are currently structured in a pyramid like fashion. What takes place in the OPs future reality is more of a circle. Everybody is dependant on one another equally. No one person is any more dependant on another more than anybody else. This is quite unlike our current system of monarchs, and representatives. Where there is equality there is peace.

What currently drives the pyramid system is imbalance. The imbalance of knowledge requires those who dont know, to ask help from those who do, and puts the sheep in the elitists grip. If those at the bottom could somehow obtain more knowledge, those at the top would have no way to counter for we would all be equal. Money strengthens those who have it, which is currently the upper class. Knowledge is power, power is money.

THe real crux is how to make the lower class knowledgeable. With that knowledge they will pull down the upper class with them and make them equals. THe knowledge the lower class requirers is that God will help them through and through because he wants us to be free. However, we cannot expect God to help us if we do not help ourselves. THe OP explained this part quite clearly. If we continue without the knowledge that our actions have a negative impact on the whole, why havent we realized that we are working for evil? Because we were never taught the difference. God cant help you if you continue to put energy into evil. because god is good.

The OPs explanation for who God is was quite remarkable. THe past civilization before the Big Bounce set everything up for us, they surely had the technology to do so. We are their creation. and we are them for we share the same energy. WHy would they put us here? In this scenario? They wanted us too choose between good and evil, their intelligence is far beyond anything we can comprehend. God created a song, a play, a movie. The most beautiful work I have ever witnessed, and we are the energy behind that. If you remember why this was setup the way it was, for indeed, the same energy that drives you drove them to create us. The signs are all around, you just have to remember what they mean. What do they have to say? Mostly answers and questions. to everything. God knows exactly what is going to happen, and he always one step ahed.
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they believe that their genetics have been corrupted - watered down - by breeding with the goyim -

Why if they are so superior to the goyim are they in general so much less attractive. Big noses, pointy teeth, tongues always darting out of their mouths, short and without much athletic ability?

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When they hacked my computer they allowed me to 'discover' a website, the nature of which I had never seen before or since. Just looking at it and reading it caused me to not eat or sleep for three days. I don't know what put it there but this illuminati you all seem to have intimate knowledge of seem to the the primary suspects, them or Reza Pahlavi.

What about the porno movie they created using my daughter...the illuminati owns RK Netmedia, right? I am sure you would know this...because you are an insider.

doesn't much matter it seems because we both know why their plans have been modified and we both know who is causing it...you are just absolutely convinced that YOU would never actually encounter this person.

You don't know a damn thing about God, so quit giving advice about that...stick to the illuminati...that's what you know about.

The Illuminati have the ALL SEEING EYE so they don't have to hack your computer to see what you've got. They can plug in your Number and see anything and everything you've ever done, seen, or thought about, so they were not the ones that hacked your computer.

As to your daughter, same as above. Honestly, if they want your daughter to do the entire Dallas Cowboy Football team, it would be easy for them. chuckle They'd plant the thought and she'd play Debbie for as long as it took. sideways

I am not convinced of anything and as to Nobody, I know who He is so I know whether or not I will encounter Him or not. chuckle As to God, He and I are best friends so please don't tell me who my friends are or aren't! Not even God does that to me so you sure don't have the right to! naughty

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Out of Curiousity

Am I the Nobody your Refering Two?

And Why Exactly Don't you want to Meet me?

I've got a Beautiful Smile and Brite Eyes

And Shiny Teeth

And a Love of Rainbows and Dogs

And Neon Red Entities That are Living Red Vegas Shows

In Themselves, even if they Don't Like Me as Much.
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That reminds me that I mentioned earlier I knew exactly who God is. Well get ready because this is some good stuff, no vague references just plain old black and white english.

We start with the big bang and we'll end with that too.

The big bang happens with a singular massive force that causes all of the universes infinite matter to explode outwards. It's important to note this is a single force, it happens in an instant and then the force is gone, all transferred to momentum of the matter.

As the matter expands another force, called gravity, is pulling each individual piece of matter back together. Gravity is not yet strong enough to overcome the massive explosive force, but since it is constant it is continually slowing down the universes expansion. The universe slows and slows until finally gravity gets the best of it and starts pulling it back. Since gravity is a constant the universe accelerates inward at the exact same rate that it was previously decelerating. When the universe finally collides at the center it collides with the exact same amount of force that it previously exploded with, the matter essentially bounces off of each other with, again, the exact same amount of force it previously bounced off of each other and the universe propels outward to the exact same extent it previously did. This happens again and again until infinity, it never stops, matter is neither created nor destroyed and neither is energy, it lasts forever.

Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it. As the universe expands mankind is in there somewhere evolving. Mankind evolves over quite a long time and becomes really quite intelligent. Eventually mankind is able to invent technology to literally move stars, create black holes and so on.

What happens with this tech is that in the end mankind uses their advanced computing technology to actually move every piece of matter in the universe creating a planned chain reaction when the universe collides back at the center. Mankind itself planned this chain reaction just like a nuclear bomb or a firework or a string of dominoes. The resulting explosion is planned out by the mankind that existed in the previous expansion of the universe. Thus God is the beginning and the end, alpha and omega, and mankind was created in his own image. Mankind is God, just not yet.

-Adam
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vedi interesting
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OP,

Did you dream this all up. You talk as if this is coming straight out of your vivid imagination.
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IMAGINATION is the most powerful tool in the universe they say.
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OP,

Did you dream this all up. You talk as if this is coming straight out of your vivid imagination.


This is indeed my religion. I came up with it on my own with help from no other but God himself.

Perhaps I should say God ourselves. If you've read about my description of God than you should be able to see that you are in fact your own guardian angel. In the previous Universe you personally helped create this Universe. You personally wrote your own story.
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I think im gonna take some writing classes so that my next life is more enjoyable.
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I wish I lived near him - I would totally be knocking on his door right now!
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me 2!
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The OP has found inspiration and has created a theory for the meaning of our life. Not only that but he has set out the groundwork for how it is possible to free ourselves. Currently we are in a state of taking from others to fulfill our needs. The OP suggests we can instead give freely and in effect receive. It achieves the same for our needs except one is peaceful, and the other one has proven to not be.

We are currently structured in a pyramid like fashion. What takes place in the OPs future reality is more of a circle. Everybody is dependant on one another equally. No one person is any more dependant on another more than anybody else. This is quite unlike our current system of monarchs, and representatives. Where there is equality there is peace.

What currently drives the pyramid system is imbalance. The imbalance of knowledge requires those who dont know, to ask help from those who do, and puts the sheep in the elitists grip. If those at the bottom could somehow obtain more knowledge, those at the top would have no way to counter for we would all be equal. Money strengthens those who have it, which is currently the upper class. Knowledge is power, power is money.

THe real crux is how to make the lower class knowledgeable. With that knowledge they will pull down the upper class with them and make them equals. THe knowledge the lower class requirers is that God will help them through and through because he wants us to be free. However, we cannot expect God to help us if we do not help ourselves. THe OP explained this part quite clearly. If we continue without the knowledge that our actions have a negative impact on the whole, why havent we realized that we are working for evil? Because we were never taught the difference. God cant help you if you continue to put energy into evil. because god is good.

The OPs explanation for who God is was quite remarkable. THe past civilization before the Big Bounce set everything up for us, they surely had the technology to do so. We are their creation. and we are them for we share the same energy. WHy would they put us here? In this scenario? They wanted us too choose between good and evil, their intelligence is far beyond anything we can comprehend. God created a song, a play, a movie. The most beautiful work I have ever witnessed, and we are the energy behind that. If you remember why this was setup the way it was, for indeed, the same energy that drives you drove them to create us. The signs are all around, you just have to remember what they mean. What do they have to say? Mostly answers and questions. to everything. God knows exactly what is going to happen, and he always one step ahed.
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I may not be the most articulate person around, but I am happy to know that I was able to get a few of my ideas across in a manner which people are able to understand, even if they disagree. It certainly seems as though you were able to read my words and put an excellent grasp on the concepts that I've presented.

I too in my own thinkings prefer to think of the future society I have presented as being represented with a circle and for the very same reasons as-well. Not only that but you could take said circle and fill it with dots, each dot representing a person. No two dots occupy the same space and thus each dot is different. Draw a circle around any dot and see how the dots contained are similar in their location, draw a larger circle and the dots become less and less similar in location. So too is our race of beings I believe. Where everyone is different there are those that are similar and that probably ends up being the people one 'dot' or person would most like to enjoy spending time with. Dots or people farthest away are really quite different and although they may not enjoy spending really any time at all with each other they are still integral parts of this whole filled circle. Remove any dot and our circle is incomplete and unable to support itself as a perfect circle.

Given the complex interactions of nature I do, however; think it quite possible that some dots or people might actually enjoy spending a great deal of time with dots that are far away from them or dots that rather enjoy spending time with almost any other dot. These people probably fall closer to the center of our circle, might even consider them to be socialites. Today we have people that seem to be under the impression that if you're not 'producing' anything tangible you're not helping society in any way shape or form. I couldn't disagree more. These socialites have a very valuable role in my opinion, though they may not 'produce' much in the way of tangible objects, technologies, food or what have you, they communicate with a great deal and variety of people. With this they are able to spread ideas and ways of life around the circle so that people have access to ways of life that may be quite different than the common ways found where they are born. With this people can be born anywhere and yet still be able to determine exactly which way of life they prefer because they will have access to the knowledge of many ways. Not only that but people may become aware of goods and technologies produced in far away lands they rarely if ever visit.

In regards to my theory on the Universe and it's origins/inner workings. I still think it was a valiant effort and may serve as a great plot line for a movie sometime, according to someone it may already have heh. Someday it may very well prove true, then again it may very well prove false. There are other theories and technical data posted here that do seem to disprove this sort of 'elastic universe' idea. All in all we probably just don't know enough about the Universe to come up with any concrete answers We've barely scratched the surface of what is out there and what is possible. Ultimately I believe this to be good news, we still have a lot to learn and I find that exciting, I'm sure there are many more surprises in store for our fledgling race. I for one look forward to uncovering the Universes secrets and surprises hand and hand with all of my friends/family members, the Human race.

-Adam
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I was pondering while outside smoking a cigarette and came up with a few additional things I'd like to say.

Earlier I may have seemed a bit over zealous and I apologize if my eagerness turned a few people off to this thread. In my defense I can't help but feel a bit overwhelmed by the idea that world peace is possible. As you've probably ascertained not only do I feel it's possible, but soon, maybe even now.

For quite some time now I've been a big believer in the idea that Mankind's future is a level headed reasonable place to be. Some expect what they call the age of Aquarius, which I've heard described as an age of brotherhood and reason. I've always liked the idea and a few years ago I thought to myself why can't this future be now. It just sounds so wonderful I can't imagine why I don't know anybody that seems to be actively working towards that type of thing. I went on thinking what might that type of world be like, how might this future work? Surely I believe it to be the future and if I do it must work, but how so? I pondered the subject and meditated for a few years putting pieces into place and trying to come up with not just the right ideas in my mind but also the right words and imagery to describe it.

As you can see I've come up with some conclusions, I use the term conclusion loosely because I never really consider a work of art necessarily finished, even in my 3D renderings I sometimes go back and add/change/remove things later (I believe in an infinite universe and with infinity is anything ever really finished?) At any rate I got up yesterday morning and had the overwhelming urge to say that my works are ready for public viewing. I just had a feeling that the time was now, I was ready, Mankind is ready for these words.

I ask now why not? We have some really excellent technology, truly the Human race has proven time and time again that there is nothing we cannot overcome. If so can we not overcome adversity? Can we not overcome hatred and fear? We've got the technology, we've got the knowhow, we've got the means to spread ideas fast and far.

There seems to be an ever growing amount of people out there believing the end of the world is nigh. Most seem to be under the impression that this comes from disaster, there may be some truth to that. The world we live in today, with death and suffering literally around every corner, are we not already in disaster? People speak of oil leaks, volcanos and Earthquakes, this can all be considered disaster yes, but I personally see that even before nature started acting a bit odd we had disaster. We lived and live it on a daily basis, for so long we've become numb to it. The end in, my opinion, is not a disaster but an end to disaster.

If you like the ideas I've presented here, might you consider putting an effort towards brining this world into fruition? I'm not going to tell you how, as I've stated before I believe in free will and so I believe you have intelligence enough to come up with your own ways. I'm always open to suggestion myself. Certainly I'm willing to offer suggestions if someone so desires my input. If you wish to speak with me my e-mail is made public on this forum, you can post in this thread or start one of your own, I see there are even private messages on GLP.

I know I've posted some 'crazy' ideas about bouncy Universes and UFOs, only a little creativity, but this one, the idea of peace, I truly with all of my heart believe that it can work.
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IMAGINATION is the most powerful tool in the universe they say.
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All that is, was imagined. If it is in the imagination NOW it already happened. This is the LAW that has been hidden.
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Expect the Unexpected:

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Toady, why are you fasting ? If the earth is being cleansed won't you need your strenght ?

I'm not fasting, I quit eating! chuckle

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Ever see the movie Powder?

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With a few tweaks, it's 100% on the money! thumbs

Why go into the Light when you can become the Light? abduct

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Interesting, you should start your own thread to keep us updated. I am assuming you are at higher level. Anyway to speed up the process ?
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Why go into the Light when you can become the Light? abduct

Ribbit hunter


Interesting, you should start your own thread to keep us updated. I am assuming you are at higher level. Anyway to speed up the process ?
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Imagine you are the light and so it shall be.
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if you are aware... when you reach the crossroads there are two choices:

if you pick the road to destruction, you get 'rewards' of power positions or money or fame on this planet... reincarnated.

if you pick the road to life, you surrender your ego you ascend... you get off this planet

The Illuminati are the souls that reincarnated and are aware in their next reincarnation... but did not ascend.

The rest of the people that live on the planet are unawakened souls... or starseeds trying to wake them up.

Prison planet earth is a soul recycling machine with a harvest every 6000 years.
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Correct. And this time we will make difference by making the game grand. Liberation of the planet. Let's do this, folks!
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How do you pay for your cigarettes?
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My conclusion after reading all pages so far.

The insight in this thread is only half-baked. And there are many shills active to discredit even that half.

End of story.
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Adam - how do you obtain (pay for) food?


+1

The people who let me stay on their sofa, in their basement or floor allow me access to their refrigerator. I don't eat much, I'm really quite thin.
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Yeah, but you went to Taco Bell. Did they give you money also?
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Adam - how do you obtain (pay for) food?


+1

The people who let me stay on their sofa, in their basement or floor allow me access to their refrigerator. I don't eat much, I'm really quite thin.


Yeah, but you went to Taco Bell. Did they give you money also?
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My bro bowls on Thursdays, the alley is near me and he often takes me with him to grab grub before his game.
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My conclusion after reading all pages so far.

The insight in this thread is only half-baked. And there are many shills active to discredit even that half.

End of story.
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Perhaps you'd care to discredit then? As for the Universe theory yes there's a couple of posts that appear discrediting, but one must admit we do not know nearly enough about the universe to say one way or the other scientifically. At this point in time imagination is far better a tool for understanding all that is.
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Adam - how do you obtain (pay for) food?


+1

The people who let me stay on their sofa, in their basement or floor allow me access to their refrigerator. I don't eat much, I'm really quite thin.


Yeah, but you went to Taco Bell. Did they give you money also?


My bro bowls on Thursdays, the alley is near me and he often takes me with him to grab grub before his game.
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Wow, so people really like taking care of you. Do you do things in return for them?
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Adam - if you are who you say, congrats.

Toad, Golden Sun, shr, and others - are you part of the illuminati or the inner circle of a similar group?
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Adam - how do you obtain (pay for) food?


+1

The people who let me stay on their sofa, in their basement or floor allow me access to their refrigerator. I don't eat much, I'm really quite thin.


Yeah, but you went to Taco Bell. Did they give you money also?


My bro bowls on Thursdays, the alley is near me and he often takes me with him to grab grub before his game.



Wow, so people really like taking care of you. Do you do things in return for them?
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Yeah, but they don't know about it yet.
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You are a fascinating fellow Adam. I have truly enjoyed reading your posts. My hope is that you will continue to share your ideas with others here at glp.
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I have a question for you ,and maybe you have had an experience concerning Holographic input that you can share.
Have you ever received data in a holographic form?
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I have a question for you ,and maybe you have had an experience concerning Holographic input that you can share.
Have you ever received data in a holographic form?
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I have received data in every form known and not known to man. I did not originally know why I was posting here when I did it. That's how it works though, my dad tricked me haha. Love it when he does that.





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