Say bye to Employer Funded health Insurance

GOOD. Employer funded health insurance is WHY health care is so expensive now. You do realize that nobody had employer funded health insurance until afte WWII, right? After the way the gov slapped a salary freeze on companies and the only way employers could stand out and attract new employees was to offer "fringe benefits" aka health insurance. Fast forward 60+ years and its damn near impossible to get health insurance if you DONT have it through an employer. This is caused so many people to "work for the man" rather than being self employed. Im self employed and went through the same bullshit when I got a divorce and lost health insurance that was under my spouses employer. I have never had anything major wrong with me and I was told by underwriters from several different insurance companies that i would be denied regardless for ALL coverage, not just have a rider written for the minor issue that Ive had, and my best bet was to get a job that offered benefits. Fuck that.

The reason that employer sponsered benefits have driven up the price of health care is because doctors bill insurance what the insurance is willing to pay rather than have a set price for their services. If EVERYBODY employer sponsored health insurance went away then doctors would have no choice but to take whatever people were willing to pay for their services or go out of business. The free market would set prices unlike now. The only thing anybody really needs health insurance for is

for major shit like hospital stays. YOu dont expect your car insurance to pay for your oil changes so why the fuck should health insurance pay for your annual physical or your offfice visit when you get strep throat?



Spot on! Bravo!

You can die from untreated Strep.

GOOD. Employer funded health insurance is WHY health care is so expensive now. You do realize that nobody had employer funded health insurance until afte WWII, right? After the way the gov slapped a salary freeze on companies and the only way employers could stand out and attract new employees was to offer "fringe benefits" aka health insurance. Fast forward 60+ years and its damn near impossible to get health insurance if you DONT have it through an employer. This is caused so many people to "work for the man" rather than being self employed. Im self employed and went through the same bullshit when I got a divorce and lost health insurance that was under my spouses employer. I have never had anything major wrong with me and I was told by underwriters from several different insurance companies that i would be denied regardless for ALL coverage, not just have a rider written for the minor issue that Ive had, and my best bet was to get a job that offered benefits. Fuck that.

The reason that employer sponsered benefits have driven up the price of health care is because doctors bill insurance what the insurance is willing to pay rather than have a set price for their services. If EVERYBODY employer sponsored health insurance went away then doctors would have no choice but to take whatever people were willing to pay for their services or go out of business. The free market would set prices unlike now. The only thing anybody really needs health insurance for is

for major shit like hospital stays. YOu dont expect your car insurance to pay for your oil changes so why the fuck should health insurance pay for your annual physical or your offfice visit when you get strep throat?





This is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever seen. This is one step removed from poor houses and leaving people on the curb to die because they can't afford antibiotics for something trivial like bronchitis.

No, its one step to taking control away from the nanny state and forcing people to be responsible for their own life style choices.

And antibotics are not expensive. I bought a 30 day supply tonight at Randalls for $17.99 and that was WITHOUT insurance.

But...but...but I thought everybody was bitching that employer-sponsored healthcare would destroy business? It would actually...small, competitive businesses....not giant conglomerate mega-corporations, that own half the country's wealth, and build bombs and jets and machineguns for the government, and get gracious discounts like a nickle on the dollar for employee health insurance, to promote a sizable slave workforce, that will keep their mouths shut and do what they are told so their kids can get healthcare.

GOOD. Employer funded health insurance is WHY health care is so expensive now. You do realize that nobody had employer funded health insurance until afte WWII, right? After the way the gov slapped a salary freeze on companies and the only way employers could stand out and attract new employees was to offer "fringe benefits" aka health insurance. Fast forward 60+ years and its damn near impossible to get health insurance if you DONT have it through an employer. This is caused so many people to "work for the man" rather than being self employed. Im self employed and went through the same bullshit when I got a divorce and lost health insurance that was under my spouses employer. I have never had anything major wrong with me and I was told by underwriters from several different insurance companies that i would be denied regardless for ALL coverage, not just have a rider written for the minor issue that Ive had, and my best bet was to get a job that offered benefits. Fuck that.

The reason that employer sponsered benefits have driven up the price of health care is because doctors bill insurance what the insurance is willing to pay rather than have a set price for their services. If EVERYBODY employer sponsored health insurance went away then doctors would have no choice but to take whatever people were willing to pay for their services or go out of business. The free market would set prices unlike now. The only thing anybody really needs health insurance for is

for major shit like hospital stays. YOu dont expect your car insurance to pay for your oil changes so why the fuck should health insurance pay for your annual physical or your offfice visit when you get strep throat?


Get diagnosed with a chronic illness that requires frequent doctor visits, lab work, and treatments that allow you to stay upright and productive...then tell me if you feel the same way.

Finally the end of the gravy train. For the longest time, people have viewed federal employment as the ultimate gravy train. You can be a lazy, un-professional, tax sucking malcontent and still get more than 40% to 50% what the average joe earns in the private sector. NO MORE GRAVY TRAIN. Government should reduce its size. Government employment is like the old Soviet system where in there was little to no private industry and government was the only source of employment.

GOOD. Employer funded health insurance is WHY health care is so expensive now. You do realize that nobody had employer funded health insurance until afte WWII, right? After the way the gov slapped a salary freeze on companies and the only way employers could stand out and attract new employees was to offer "fringe benefits" aka health insurance. Fast forward 60+ years and its damn near impossible to get health insurance if you DONT have it through an employer. This is caused so many people to "work for the man" rather than being self employed. Im self employed and went through the same bullshit when I got a divorce and lost health insurance that was under my spouses employer. I have never had anything major wrong with me and I was told by underwriters from several different insurance companies that i would be denied regardless for ALL coverage, not just have a rider written for the minor issue that Ive had, and my best bet was to get a job that offered benefits. Fuck that.

The reason that employer sponsered benefits have driven up the price of health care is because doctors bill insurance what the insurance is willing to pay rather than have a set price for their services. If EVERYBODY employer sponsored health insurance went away then doctors would have no choice but to take whatever people were willing to pay for their services or go out of business. The free market would set prices unlike now. The only thing anybody really needs health insurance for is

for major shit like hospital stays. YOu dont expect your car insurance to pay for your oil changes so why the fuck should health insurance pay for your annual physical or your offfice visit when you get strep throat?





This is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever seen. This is one step removed from poor houses and leaving people on the curb to die because they can't afford antibiotics for something trivial like bronchitis.

No, its one step to taking control away from the nanny state and forcing people to be responsible for their own life style choices.

And antibotics are not expensive. I bought a 30 day supply tonight at Randalls for $17.99 and that was WITHOUT insurance.


getting the flu from your job of sucking dicks in the alley , are ya ?

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.

If everybody is also in constant need of health care then real question is WHY? Figure out the why and deal with it and need the for constant health care goes away. Of course shit is going to happen (chopped up finger, car wreck, etc) and at some point everybody will need to be treated for something but to be treated all the time for something means that there is a deeper issue that needs to be resolved.

They don't need to cut tax breaks for employer health care. Just ending a couple of our illegal preemptive wars would save a ton of money.

Why not just end forced taxation and call it a day? Then every single problem this country has would instantly reslove itself since the money supply would be cut off to the few in power who keep the shit stirred up. Without stolen money they would be powerless.

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.


Society benefits. It's an investment from that angle. Old news....

If everybody is also in constant need of health care then real question is WHY? Figure out the why and deal with it and need the for constant health care goes away. Of course shit is going to happen (chopped up finger, car wreck, etc) and at some point everybody will need to be treated for something but to be treated all the time for something means that there is a deeper issue that needs to be resolved.


If you are implying that people go to the doctor or ER for frivolous reasons, if free or whatever, then you are wrong. They dont....

They don't need to cut tax breaks for employer health care. Just ending a couple of our illegal preemptive wars would save a ton of money.

Why not just end forced taxation and call it a day? Then every single problem this country has would instantly reslove itself since the money supply would be cut off to the few in power who keep the shit stirred up. Without stolen money they would be powerless.


It's only stolen because it is channeled for the profit of corporations. Cut them out of the loop, and it is no longer theft...

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.


Society benefits. It's an investment from that angle. Old news....

Really? Because there sure are lots of people bitching about not having access to health care or having substandard health care so Im not so sure you are correct.

They don't need to cut tax breaks for employer health care. Just ending a couple of our illegal preemptive wars would save a ton of money.

Why not just end forced taxation and call it a day? Then every single problem this country has would instantly reslove itself since the money supply would be cut off to the few in power who keep the shit stirred up. Without stolen money they would be powerless.


It's only stolen because it is channeled for the profit of corporations. Cut them out of the loop, and it is no longer theft...

Its stolen when its taken from its rightful owner and given to somebody else against the rightful owners will regardless of who or what its going to.

If everybody is also in constant need of health care then real question is WHY? Figure out the why and deal with it and need the for constant health care goes away. Of course shit is going to happen (chopped up finger, car wreck, etc) and at some point everybody will need to be treated for something but to be treated all the time for something means that there is a deeper issue that needs to be resolved.


If you are implying that people go to the doctor or ER for frivolous reasons, if free or whatever, then you are wrong. They dont....

Thats your opinion. Lists some facts with references to back up your opinion and then it might become a fact.

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.


Society benefits. It's an investment from that angle. Old news....

Really? Because there sure are lots of people bitching about not having access to health care or having substandard health care so Im not so sure you are correct.


The ideal is as such,,, if it isnt happening is because there are too many parasites at the tough. And I dont mean poor people...

They don't need to cut tax breaks for employer health care. Just ending a couple of our illegal preemptive wars would save a ton of money.

Why not just end forced taxation and call it a day? Then every single problem this country has would instantly reslove itself since the money supply would be cut off to the few in power who keep the shit stirred up. Without stolen money they would be powerless.


It's only stolen because it is channeled for the profit of corporations. Cut them out of the loop, and it is no longer theft...

Its stolen when its taken from its rightful owner and given to somebody else against the rightful owners will regardless of who or what its going to.


Taxation without representation is cause for revolution. Taxation that benefits society is a result of revolution. You've already had a libertarian revolution and the results are obvious. So far they've only been guises of reactionary coup d'etats for the benefit of a very few filthy rich...

They don't need to cut tax breaks for employer health care. Just ending a couple of our illegal preemptive wars would save a ton of money.

Why not just end forced taxation and call it a day? Then every single problem this country has would instantly reslove itself since the money supply would be cut off to the few in power who keep the shit stirred up. Without stolen money they would be powerless.


It's only stolen because it is channeled for the profit of corporations. Cut them out of the loop, and it is no longer theft...

Its stolen when its taken from its rightful owner and given to somebody else against the rightful owners will regardless of who or what its going to.


Taxation without representation is cause for revolution. Taxation that benefits society is a result of revolution. You've already had a libertarian revolution and the results are obvious. So far they've only been guises of reactionary coup d'etats for the benefit of a very few filthy rich...

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.


Society benefits. It's an investment from that angle. Old news....

Really? Because there sure are lots of people bitching about not having access to health care or having substandard health care so Im not so sure you are correct.


The ideal is as such,,, if it isnt happening is because there are too many parasites at the tough. And I dont mean poor people...

Then who do you mean?

saw that shit today on the news and thought oh yeah it's coming and they are coming for 401 k's too

it is on now

but does anyone care?

unless you are a tin capped tooth illegal anchor baby or some sort of welfare case say goodbye to any sort of insurance

so the premise is for americans to really feel healthcare costs?

shrink the government and also mandate that congress, house and all those 'serving' the american people get the same coverage..



Much agreed. I bet if they had to have the same insurance we would not be having this converstion. Their looking for anyway to screw us and I think the republicans will take the lead on this shit unfortunately.

May the Great Spirit Bless you

Take Care
Tann

If everybody is also in constant need of health care then real question is WHY? Figure out the why and deal with it and need the for constant health care goes away. Of course shit is going to happen (chopped up finger, car wreck, etc) and at some point everybody will need to be treated for something but to be treated all the time for something means that there is a deeper issue that needs to be resolved.


If you are implying that people go to the doctor or ER for frivolous reasons, if free or whatever, then you are wrong. They dont....

Thats your opinion. Lists some facts with references to back up your opinion and then it might become a fact.


The contrary is urban myth that has absolutely no basis in fact. No who benefits from such malicious rumors?

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.


Society benefits. It's an investment from that angle. Old news....

Really? Because there sure are lots of people bitching about not having access to health care or having substandard health care so Im not so sure you are correct.


The ideal is as such,,, if it isnt happening is because there are too many parasites at the tough. And I dont mean poor people...

Then who do you mean?
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The insurance and pharmaceutical corporations. They are the biggest distractors to a federally funded health care for all. It is because of them that you dont have one. The US based corps almost prevented Canada from obtaining one. They now scour the earth trying to sabotage universal health care where it exists, coercing and using the US govt to do so...

If everybody is also in constant need of health care then real question is WHY? Figure out the why and deal with it and need the for constant health care goes away. Of course shit is going to happen (chopped up finger, car wreck, etc) and at some point everybody will need to be treated for something but to be treated all the time for something means that there is a deeper issue that needs to be resolved.


If you are implying that people go to the doctor or ER for frivolous reasons, if free or whatever, then you are wrong. They dont....

Thats your opinion. Lists some facts with references to back up your opinion and then it might become a fact.


The contrary is urban myth that has absolutely no basis in fact. No who benefits from such malicious rumors?

Your statement is incoherent. Freeloaders, mainly illegal aliens which are the worst type of freeloaders, DO go to the ER for bullshit reasons because they know by law the ER has to treat them. That law needs to change.

Can't they get help with student loans if they go into primary care and work in city clinics, or things like that? Please provide evidence that doctors are broke; I don't believe it.


Who "helps" doctors with their student loans? The gov? Where does the gov get its money? Why from taxpayers of course so its taxpayers that "help" people when they get something for nothing or get their student loans forgiven.


Society benefits. It's an investment from that angle. Old news....

Really? Because there sure are lots of people bitching about not having access to health care or having substandard health care so Im not so sure you are correct.


The ideal is as such,,, if it isnt happening is because there are too many parasites at the tough. And I dont mean poor people...

Then who do you mean?
.
The insurance and pharmaceutical corporations. They are the biggest distractors to a federally funded health care for all. It is because of them that you dont have one. The US based corps almost prevented Canada from obtaining one. They now scour the earth trying to sabotage universal health care where it exists, coercing and using the US govt to do so...


Get rid of forced taxation and all the parasites, corporations and freeloading losers alike, go away. I find it comical that you are critizing the US and our healthcare system when your flag says you are in Mexico. If shits so bad here why are so many mexicans in this country illegally? All they do is suck off a system that they do not contribute to. The only thing they have managed to do is turn every area in the US that they congregate in into a 3rd world shit hole like Mexico though.