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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/04/2011 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1251312your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is.. *pats on head* of course dear right and you must be a demon seer..? gifted with x-ray demon vision to identify all the demons around you... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/04/2011 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty... You don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them.. Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology. It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble... |
Riker (OP) User ID: 684208 United States 02/04/2011 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My philosophy is, it scares the demons that live in them, and believe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1251312Good point. They also want a God that lives down to their expectations and allows them absolute license, instead of One Who expects them to live up to His standards. Others just don't want any accountability. Remember these are the End Days- the love of many will wax cold and there will be scoffers. Don't share their hate back with them. Be kind, loving, and generous to them. Be blameless and upright. Make sure they've heard the Gospel and otherwise do not let their heathen ways infect you. Peace, love, and blessing in the name of Yeshua Ha Mashiach People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is.. Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people? Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs. No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker (OP) User ID: 684208 United States 02/04/2011 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty... Quoting: Z-djinnYou don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them.. Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology. It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble... NO one said unbelievers are demons! You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/04/2011 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Z-djinnGood point. They also want a God that lives down to their expectations and allows them absolute license, instead of One Who expects them to live up to His standards. Others just don't want any accountability. Remember these are the End Days- the love of many will wax cold and there will be scoffers. Don't share their hate back with them. Be kind, loving, and generous to them. Be blameless and upright. Make sure they've heard the Gospel and otherwise do not let their heathen ways infect you. Peace, love, and blessing in the name of Yeshua Ha Mashiach People who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is.. Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people? Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs. No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference. Big difference in your world maybe, both are suppositions and only based in 'belief' not verifiable in any way shape or form... Christians are so 'demon obsessed' one way or another it's pathologic IMO |
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HardTruth User ID: 1100673 United States 02/04/2011 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RikerPeople who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is.. Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people? Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs. No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference. Big difference in your world maybe, both are suppositions and only based in 'belief' not verifiable in any way shape or form... Christians are so 'demon obsessed' one way or another it's pathologic IMO LOL, yep, Satan is around every corner, and a demon exists in every unbeliever!! Sad belief structure indeed!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/04/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty... Quoting: Z-djinnYou don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them.. Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology. It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble... NO one said unbelievers are demons! your an exception then, but you still have this demon thinking still going on inside you, thinking that people are influenced by them etc. frankly it's delusional |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1228748 United States 02/04/2011 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its really us that they hate. Quoting: UrielBecause they hate us, they say horrible things about him? Absolutely. Most of it is about pushing our buttons. It's like the one AC who used to always go on about "chirsters" and their "dumpy non-existant God fugger". The name "Elvis" has become a caricature: A real person has been reduced to the punch-line of a joke. . .how much more of a joke has "Jesus" become? I don't mean the actual Person, but whatever people associate with that name. It's like "Yo Momma" jokes - have the people who tell them really ever met your mom? |
Riker (OP) User ID: 684208 United States 02/04/2011 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its really us that they hate. Quoting: UrielBecause they hate us, they say horrible things about him? Absolutely. Most of it is about pushing our buttons. It's like the one AC who used to always go on about "chirsters" and their "dumpy non-existant God fugger". The name "Elvis" has become a caricature: A real person has been reduced to the punch-line of a joke. . .how much more of a joke has "Jesus" become? I don't mean the actual Person, but whatever people associate with that name. It's like "Yo Momma" jokes - have the people who tell them really ever met your mom? ya makes sense. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker (OP) User ID: 684208 United States 02/04/2011 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RikerPeople who think that others outside their religion are demons...are borderline mentally ill your fanatical childish outlook is where the HATE and ANGER is.. Do you think that it is possible, Z-djinn, for there to be demons present in the world, regardless of the level of influence they may or may not have on people? Demons are people who think other people are demons because of their beliefs or non-beliefs. No one said other people are demons... they said they were influenced by demons. Big difference. Big difference in your world maybe, both are suppositions and only based in 'belief' not verifiable in any way shape or form... Christians are so 'demon obsessed' one way or another it's pathologic IMO Big difference in THE world period. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker (OP) User ID: 684208 United States 02/04/2011 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL...how can you hate what you do not see? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1255958People do that with all kinds of things. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker (OP) User ID: 684208 United States 02/04/2011 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty... Quoting: Z-djinnYou don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them.. Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology. It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble... NO one said unbelievers are demons! your an exception then, but you still have this demon thinking still going on inside you, thinking that people are influenced by them etc. frankly it's delusional "demon thinking going on inside you"... and I'm delusional? lol again, how is believing that there are supernatural creatures that may not have your best interest at heart in existence so much more delusional than any other idea that comes along the pike? You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/04/2011 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say unbelievers are demons is yet another false way to exalt yourself over and above those who think differently from you. It is a defense mechanism, throwing mud in your opponents face and saying look your dirty... Quoting: Z-djinnYou don't need to refute anything demons say, they are demons, you don't have to respect them.. Your assertion is shallow to say the least, it is nothing more than being being prejudiced to those who disagree with your dogmatic ideology. It is not indicative of a higher spiritual vision or realization at all in any way, it shows rather a small minded paranoid fatalistic view of the world outside your bubble... NO one said unbelievers are demons! your an exception then, but you still have this demon thinking still going on inside you, thinking that people are influenced by them etc. frankly it's delusional "demon thinking going on inside you"... and I'm delusional? lol again, how is believing that there are supernatural creatures that may not have your best interest at heart in existence so much more delusional than any other idea that comes along the pike? Illogical |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1255250 Canada 02/04/2011 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question. I find it curious. Quoting: RikerIt's not jesus we have a problem with. It's his followers. How is that prayer again? "Jesus, please keep me safe from your followers." The messages found in the Gnostic texts pertaining to jesus are COMPLETELY different than what the "Church" forced down the throats of the people. Here's a sample: Gnostic teachings (what Jesus actually taught) do not believe in original sin. do not believe that mankind is inherently evil. do not believe in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. For the doctrine of blood atonement presents a God who demands the human sacrifice of an innocent man, and any God who demands murder to appease justice is unworthy of worship or adoration. do not believe in hell or final judgment. For the doctrine of hell and eternal torment are immoral beliefs, and the doctrine of final judgment perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness. And much, much more |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/04/2011 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just read about it, interesting... Quoting: Z-djinnWhen you finish reading, you will find that it is not so illogical to think of "invisible" creatures affecting animal behavior. It is within the realm of possibilities. Oh sure I'll just read whatever ya want LOL Look, you can make your own points but if you think this is some proof of demons.. i'm sorry and laugh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1255250 Canada 02/04/2011 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question. I find it curious. Quoting: RikerIt's not jesus we have a problem with. It's his followers. How is that prayer again? "Jesus, please keep me safe from your followers." The messages found in the Gnostic texts pertaining to jesus are COMPLETELY different than what the "Church" forced down the throats of the people. Here's a sample: Gnostic teachings (what Jesus actually taught) do not believe in original sin. do not believe that mankind is inherently evil. do not believe in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. For the doctrine of blood atonement presents a God who demands the human sacrifice of an innocent man, and any God who demands murder to appease justice is unworthy of worship or adoration. do not believe in hell or final judgment. For the doctrine of hell and eternal torment are immoral beliefs, and the doctrine of final judgment perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness. And much, much more Oops, I forgot one. and it's a Doozer!! do not believe in Jehovah. However, true Gnostics do accept that the biblical Jehovah is a demiurge, an evil monster who would present himself as God in order to confuse mankind with regard to what is truly right and wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1156421 United States 02/04/2011 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE PEOPLE THAT "HATE" JESUS, ALSO DENY JESUS. THE PEOPLE THAT DENY JESUS ALSO DENY THE FATHER(GOD). THEM PEOPLE LIKE TO FEEL LIKE GOD INSTEAD OF SUBMITTING TO ONE. IT MAKES THEM FEEL BETTER TO FREELY THINK HOW THIS UNIVERSE CAME ABOUT. THEY DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR LIFE SUBMITTING TO A GOD WHEN IN THEIR MIND THERES THAT CHANCE HE DOESN'T EXIST AND THEY'VE JUST WASTED THEIR WHOLE LIFE... HOW IRONIC IS THAT? ;) NOW TO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO HOLD TO A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT YET DENY HIS EXISTENCE, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DELUSIONAL JOURNEY TO NO WHERE. |
ZTE User ID: 1075971 United States 02/05/2011 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh sure I'll just read whatever ya want LOL Quoting: Z-djinnLook, you can make your own points but if you think this is some proof of demons.. i'm sorry and laugh Proof? no. Evidence? Maybe My point is, our behavior isn't always our own. Don't assume that you are in control of the chemicals being released in your brain. Just because you can't see the cause of something, doesn't mean you are in control. Toxoplasma gondii has infected roughly half the population of humans on the planet, and this parasite can affect thought and behavior of humans. This parasite is also linked to schizophrenia as well. Of course, many of this gets much more interesting when you study triple-helix DNA more closely. The "DNA of the gods...." Last Edited by Zedakah on 02/05/2011 12:14 AM |
Riker (OP) User ID: 1181030 United States 02/05/2011 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh sure I'll just read whatever ya want LOL Quoting: Z-djinnLook, you can make your own points but if you think this is some proof of demons.. i'm sorry and laugh Proof? no. Evidence? Maybe My point is, our behavior isn't always our own. Don't assume that you are in control of the chemicals being released in your brain. Just because you can't see the cause of something, doesn't mean you are in control. Toxoplasma gondii has infected roughly half the population of humans on the planet, and this parasite can affect thought and behavior of humans. This parasite is also linked to schizophrenia as well. Of course, many of this gets much more interesting when you study triple-helix DNA more closely. The "DNA of the gods...." That parasite is crazy creepy. I can't stand parasites. LOL You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Wingedlion User ID: 1251820 United States 02/05/2011 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question. I find it curious. Quoting: RikerIt's not jesus we have a problem with. It's his followers. How is that prayer again? "Jesus, please keep me safe from your followers." The messages found in the Gnostic texts pertaining to jesus are COMPLETELY different than what the "Church" forced down the throats of the people. Here's a sample: Gnostic teachings (what Jesus actually taught) do not believe in original sin. do not believe that mankind is inherently evil. do not believe in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. For the doctrine of blood atonement presents a God who demands the human sacrifice of an innocent man, and any God who demands murder to appease justice is unworthy of worship or adoration. do not believe in hell or final judgment. For the doctrine of hell and eternal torment are immoral beliefs, and the doctrine of final judgment perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness. And much, much more Well gnostics are nothing more than a bunch of pagans pretending to be Christians. Jesus believed in all of these things, John the Baptist said "Behold the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the whole world." That pretty much declares all you have said as a lie. It is a declaration of blood atomement, original sin, the whole kit and cabootle! No distortion here but the one you are presenting. "Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity." |
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Smilin' Irish Eyes User ID: 656642 United States 02/05/2011 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Riker have you ever watched this video series? I found it interesting how it explores the similarities between the different religions. Also delves into Jesus / "Issa" buried in India. [link to www.youtube.com] It is a long series, all 11 parts but it is presented well. Here is just another site to peruse if you want to explore the sociological/cultural context of the bible. [link to www.bidstrup.com] Another interesting site, if you want. Deism vs. Atheism and Christianity [link to www.deism.com] Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
TX PATRIOT User ID: 1241252 United States 02/05/2011 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question. I find it curious. Quoting: RikerI dont think its that people hate him.. People hate the bible pushers.. the people that are always throwing him in our faces.. Bible thumpers give religion a very bad name. The following prayer accurately expresses my position, which has been developed after decades of experience: Jesus, please save me from your followers. Amen. . |