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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1278643  United States02/26/2011 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1238917 United States02/26/2011 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i want them to die Quoting: ill human not i.This PX/Nibiru church is a pretty nasty cult sometimes. It's slightly reminiscent of the Westboro Baptist Church especially when they start obsessing about calling people fags and wishing death to "shills." So what's nastier? The masonic PTB who have known about this for years and have lied and robbed people to plan to escape in comfy underground bunkers saving their own asses while millions die a horrible death all because they think that they are privileged to live, and we are not?   Or people that wouldn't mind seeing them seal their own fate?  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1278668 United States02/27/2011 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shill activity on this thread lends more credence to this theory than anything else. They are worried and losing control by the moment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1191521It's funny that this thread and the one about Spanish Astronomers have the MOST VIEWS  LOL - hystericall asswipe. |
ill human not i.  User ID: 1277988 United States02/27/2011 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1191521Cite? Link? Proof? Have you heard of programs that simulate the effects of gravity on planets? Have you also heard of orbital perturbations? If anything like Nibiru was approaching, the outer planets would have had their orbits drastically changed as far back as the 90s, Saturn would be displaced, and it would be seen across the sky. And I'm tempted to remark upon how hilarious it is that a believer asks for proof, but I'll refrain from doing so. Interesting points. Sine we are crossing the equator soon, we are nearest the black hole, therefore it's pull is greatest on us. It pulls us towards the center and we agree with that. When we cross, we will no longer agree with the galaxy's force, we will continue downward and the galaxy will be pulling upward on us. For example: This nonsense. This is absolutely wrong and has no basis in reality. "no longer agree with the galaxy's force"..... I don't think God could do a facepalm hard enough to express how stupid that entire post was. Ok bitch, this the only time i will be nice to you.. We are moving Southerly and the core of the galaxy is South of us, pulling us down. Soon We pass the EQ and we continue South while the Black hole pulls us central which is now contrary to our motion. As we encircle the galaxy we do a wave, up and down, back and forth across the galactic equator. The next time you wrongly insult me, expect to have a really bad time. What do you not understand bitch ? |
| Menow User ID: 1278042 United States02/27/2011 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1249903Have you heard of programs that simulate the effects of gravity on planets? Have you also heard of orbital perturbations? If anything like Nibiru was approaching, the outer planets would have had their orbits drastically changed as far back as the 90s, Saturn would be displaced, and it would be seen across the sky. And I'm tempted to remark upon how hilarious it is that a believer asks for proof, but I'll refrain from doing so. Interesting points. Sine we are crossing the equator soon, we are nearest the black hole, therefore it's pull is greatest on us. It pulls us towards the center and we agree with that. When we cross, we will no longer agree with the galaxy's force, we will continue downward and the galaxy will be pulling upward on us. For example: This nonsense. This is absolutely wrong and has no basis in reality. "no longer agree with the galaxy's force"..... I don't think God could do a facepalm hard enough to express how stupid that entire post was. Ok bitch, this the only time i will be nice to you.. We are moving Southerly and the core of the galaxy is South of us, pulling us down. Soon We pass the EQ and we continue South while the Black hole pulls us central which is now contrary to our motion. As we encircle the galaxy we do a wave, up and down, back and forth across the galactic equator. The next time you wrongly insult me, expect to have a really bad time. What do you not understand bitch ? What do YOU not understand about the fact that a body like Jupiter has more gravitational effect on Earth when it passes nearer? How about the Moon? Idiot. |
| ill human not i. User ID: 1277988 United States02/27/2011 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ill human not i.Interesting points. Sine we are crossing the equator soon, we are nearest the black hole, therefore it's pull is greatest on us. It pulls us towards the center and we agree with that. When we cross, we will no longer agree with the galaxy's force, we will continue downward and the galaxy will be pulling upward on us. For example: This nonsense. This is absolutely wrong and has no basis in reality. "no longer agree with the galaxy's force"..... I don't think God could do a facepalm hard enough to express how stupid that entire post was. Ok bitch, this the only time i will be nice to you.. We are moving Southerly and the core of the galaxy is South of us, pulling us down. Soon We pass the EQ and we continue South while the Black hole pulls us central which is now contrary to our motion. As we encircle the galaxy we do a wave, up and down, back and forth across the galactic equator. The next time you wrongly insult me, expect to have a really bad time. What do you not understand bitch ? What do YOU not understand about the fact that a body like Jupiter has more gravitational effect on Earth when it passes nearer? How about the Moon? Idiot. The moon makes tides rise etc. Jupiter has move gravitational effect than WHAT ?? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279025 United States02/27/2011 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignore the debunkers They have made their motives completely clear.. All of the evidence in this thread is proof they know it is there and just cant find it yet...But sounds like its pretty much positive that its there... So what do we know about it then?? We know NASA is worried that it will start tossing comets at us, which we have a comet on the way, due in October, that will come very close... We know Sitchin was at least part right... The Sumerians 100% knew about this planet and mapped it out, even a 5 year old can see its our solar system, with planets in the right places, right sizes and they also knew the color of planets... Dont let these guys get to you, its their jobs or just people too afraid to accept the truth Prepare, get supplies, get water and prepare yourself mentally to survive the harshest conditions of your life... Who knows how many people will die if a comet were to hit us...But dont give up, nothing is set in stone.. And if NOTHING happens at all, at least you were prepared... The government, NASA and DHS have all been warning of something serious coming and how we need to be prepared... Keep your heads up, dont listen to the hype, do your own research... I take this commercial to be a very good indication of what they expect.. ahead.gov - World upside down |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279025 United States02/27/2011 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its approx. 10km in diameter. not exactly measured yet! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278011Source please? ty .. What is 10km in size?? If your talking about Planet X, they(scientists) think its 1.5 - 4 x the size of Jupiter... If your talking about Elenin, I havent seen them give a size yet.. |
| upstateny User ID: 750445 United States02/27/2011 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know NASA is worried that it will start tossing comets at us, which we have a comet on the way, due in October, that will come very close... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279025we have THREE comets on the way .. ALL OF WHICH which will come close. Why isnt that being reported!? Elenin: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] 45P/Honda: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] PN9: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Last Edited by upstateny on 02/27/2011 11:15 AM You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in. |
| zacksavage User ID: 1278584 United States02/27/2011 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know NASA is worried that it will start tossing comets at us, which we have a comet on the way, due in October, that will come very close... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279025we have THREE comets on the way .. ALL OF WHICH which will come close. Why isnt that being reported!? Elenin: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] 45P/Honda: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] PN9: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Interesting. Z Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279072 United States02/27/2011 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know NASA is worried that it will start tossing comets at us, which we have a comet on the way, due in October, that will come very close... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279025we have THREE comets on the way .. ALL OF WHICH which will come close. Why isnt that being reported!? Elenin: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] 45P/Honda: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] PN9: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Check out this site...Pretty cool info - [link to www.jpl.nasa.gov] List of Near Earth Asteroids [link to www.minorplanetcenter.org] Near Earth Asteroids in 2011 2005 YU55 2011 Nov.8 0.002173 AU 2011 BO59 2011 Mar. 30 0.04038 AU 2011 CG2 2011 May 10 0.04709 2011 CY46 2011 Mar. 19 0.04868 Elenin - .232 AU from earth on 10/18/11 45P/Honda - .07 AU from earth on 8/18/11 PN9 - .117 AU (45.5 LD) from earth on 3/11/11 Size 2.6km Path of Elenin in Google Earth [link to www.astronomia.org] Pic of Elenin [link to www.spaceweather.com] |
| ill human not i. User ID: 1277988 United States02/27/2011 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] Try that if you want to see the WHOLE list of NEO's (2006 KV89) 2011-Feb-27 0.1639 63.8 150 m - 350 m 21.2 6.67 (2009 PQ1) 2011-Feb-27 0.1205 46.9 83 m - 190 m 22.5 17.40 (2011 DT9) 2011-Feb-27 0.0231 9.0 25 m - 55 m 25.2 6.21 (2009 FY4) 2011-Feb-28 0.0659 25.7 160 m - 370 m 21.0 15.17 (2011 DE5) 2011-Mar-01 0.0127 4.9 13 m - 30 m 26.5 15.30 (2011 DW) 2011-Mar-02 0.0361 14.1 85 m - 190 m 22.5 13.90 (2011 DW4) 2011-Mar-03 0.0176 6.9 9.2 m - 21 m 27.3 4.55 (2011 BY24) 2011-Mar-04 0.1411 54.9 100 m - 230 m 22.0 10.28 (2011 CG33) 2011-Mar-05 0.1874 72.9 110 m - 240 m 22.0 19.37 (2011 BA12) 2011-Mar-05 0.0754 29.3 78 m - 180 m 22.7 6.85 (2010 CO1) 2011-Mar-06 0.0825 32.1 130 m - 290 m 21.5 14.96 (1998 HK49) 2011-Mar-06 0.1364 53.1 90 m - 200 m 22.3 5.37 (2011 BX59) 2011-Mar-06 0.0732 28.5 30 m - 68 m 24.7 7.92 (2008 CA22) 2011-Mar-09 0.1982 77.1 200 m - 440 m 20.6 27.69 (2008 DY22) 2011-Mar-09 0.1306 50.8 38 m - 86 m 24.2 11.28 (2005 EA) 2011-Mar-09 0.1330 51.8 170 m - 390 m 20.9 25.88 (2008 EY5) 2011-Mar-10 0.0899 35.0 260 m - 570 m 20.1 11.98 23187 (2000 PN9) 2011-Mar-10 0.1169 45.5 1.6 km - 3.6 km 16.1 32.90 (2010 JK1) 2011-Mar-11 0.1851 72.0 36 m - 79 m 24.4 4.68 (2000 EB14) 2011-Mar-11 0.1294 50.3 62 m - 140 m 23.2 12.86 (2005 EY169) 2011-Mar-11 0.0727 28.3 98 m - 220 m 22.2 12.39 (2007 CT26) 2011-Mar-12 0.1810 70.5 57 m - 130 m 23.4 8.41 (2005 ES70) 2011-Mar-14 0.0582 22.6 51 m - 110 m 23.6 12.03 (2011 CH50) 2011-Mar-14 0.1555 60.5 120 m - 260 m 21.8 8.02 (2011 CD22) 2011-Mar-14 0.1574 61.2 91 m - 200 m 22.3 11.99 (2001 FO127) 2011-Mar-15 0.1710 66.5 9.4 m - 21 m 27.3 8.92 11885 Summanus 2011-Mar-17 0.1021 39.7 510 m - 1.1 km 18.6 16.22 (2011 CY46) 2011-Mar-19 0.0486 18.9 300 m - 680 m 19.7 15.91 (2010 UY7) 2011-Mar-21 0.1760 68.5 5.2 m - 12 m 28.5 3.88 (2010 FN) 2011-Mar-23 0.0534 20.8 12 m - 28 m 26.6 8.43 (2008 EE) 2011-Mar-24 0.1436 55.9 290 m - 660 m 19.8 10.33 (2004 EM20) 2011-Mar-27 0.1536 59.8 250 m - 570 m 20.1 14.75 (2011 BO59) 2011-Mar-30 0.0404 15.7 170 m - 380 m 21.0 7.35 (2001 AD2) 2011-Mar-31 0.1033 40.2 400 m - 900 m 19.1 24.82 (2004 FJ29) 2011-Apr-01 0.1483 57.7 140 m - 310 m 21.4 17.03 (2009 UD) 2011-Apr-02 0.0963 37.5 9.9 m - 22 m 27.2 6.25 85953 (1999 FK21) 2011-Apr-03 0.1789 69.6 590 m 18.0 16.57 (2004 XN50) 2011-Apr-04 0.1471 57.2 470 m - 1.1 km 18.8 31.02 (2010 TK19) 2011-Apr-04 0.1694 65.9 28 m - 63 m 24.9 8.66 (2010 TK55) 2011-Apr-05 0.0693 27.0 47 m - 110 m 23.7 12.49 (2009 HE60) 2011-Apr-06 0.0813 31.7 20 m - 44 m 25.7 5.24 (2010 VB1) 2011-Apr-10 0.1699 66.1 58 m - 130 m 23.3 6.81 (2007 WC5) 2011-Apr-15 0.0893 34.8 9.2 m - 21 m 27.3 8.07 141484 (2002 DB4) 2011-Apr-15 0.1606 62.5 1.4 km - 3.1 km 16.4 14.94 260141 (2004 QT24) 2011-Apr-17 0.1405 54.7 590 m - 1.3 km 18.3 13.24 (2010 UP) 2011-Apr-17 0.1012 39.4 33 m - 73 m 24.5 5.09 (2010 HW20) 2011-Apr-23 0.0690 26.8 16 m - 36 m 26.1 4.99 (2003 FF5) 2011-Apr-24 0.0551 21.5 62 m - 140 m 23.1 6.35 (2004 HQ1) 2011-Apr-24 0.1053 41.0 60 m - 130 m 23.2 10.80 (2011 DV) 2011-Apr-26 0.0989 38.5 210 m - 470 m 20.5 6.43 (2010 TU5) 2011-Apr-27 0.0904 35.2 430 m - 970 m 18.9 18.72 (2008 UC202) 2011-Apr-27 0.0228 8.9 6.0 m - 13 m 28.2 4.00 (2003 FU3) 2011-Apr-30 0.1465 57.0 180 m - 400 m 20.9 15.34 (2009 UK20) 2011-May-02 0.0220 8.6 14 m - 32 m 26.4 5.31 (2008 FU6) 2011-May-05 0.1939 75.5 710 m - 1.6 km 17.9 14.36 164121 (2003 YT1) 2011-May-05 0.1679 65.3 1.6 km - 3.5 km 16.1 25.95 (2011 BB) 2011-May-05 0.1089 42.4 220 m - 490 m 20.4 9.49 (2010 KX7) 2011-May-06 0.0710 27.6 110 m - 240 m 22.0 12.45 (2011 CG2) 2011-May-10 0.0472 18.4 140 m - 310 m 21.4 2.71 (2010 SO16) 2011-May-13 0.1345 52.3 200 m - 450 m 20.6 9.40 141432 (2002 CQ11) 2011-May-18 0.0891 34.7 290 m - 640 m 19.8 10.75 (2006 JF42) 2011-May-18 0.0595 23.1 420 m - 940 m 19.0 10.99 264308 (1999 NA5) 2011-May-22 0.1404 54.6 230 m - 520 m 20.3 5.53 (2003 AL73) 2011-May-26 0.1238 48.2 390 m - 860 m 19.2 15.31 (2005 WA) 2011-May-26 0.1740 67.7 44 m - 99 m 23.9 5.27 (2010 VX139) 2011-May-28 0.1968 76.6 210 m - 470 m 20.5 13.11 188174 (2002 JC) 2011-Jun-01 0.1478 57.5 1.0 km - 2.3 km 17.0 20.88 (2009 BD) 2011-Jun-02 0.0023 0.9 5.7 m - 13 m 28.3 1.91 (2010 XK) 2011-Jun-02 0.1016 39.5 72 m - 160 m 22.8 14.01 (2010 NJ1) 2011-Jun-06 0.1608 62.6 230 m - 510 m 20.3 15.96 (2002 JB9) 2011-Jun-11 0.1838 71.5 2.0 km - 4.5 km 15.6 29.25 153792 (2001 VH75) 2011-Jun-12 0.1085 42.2 670 m - 1.5 km 18.0 25.48 (2009 BW2) 2011-Jun-13 0.1144 44.5 25 m - 56 m 25.1 3.76 (2010 VL65) 2011-Jun-14 0.1902 74.0 5.5 m - 12 m 28.4 4.07 (2004 LO2) 2011-Jun-15 0.0254 9.9 30 m - 66 m 24.8 15.29 (2004 YG1) 2011-Jun-17 0.1351 52.6 140 m - 310 m 21.4 10.94 163348 (2002 NN4) 2011-Jun-18 0.1619 63.0 270 m - 600 m 20.0 8.95 (1998 KM3) 2011-Jun-19 0.0928 36.1 350 m - 780 m 19.4 15.46 (2010 XO56) 2011-Jun-22 0.1802 70.1 230 m - 510 m 20.3 19.72 65909 (1998 FH12) 2011-Jun-23 0.1379 53.7 400 m - 900 m 19.1 20.98 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279072 United States02/27/2011 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Gazmik User ID: 602284 United States02/27/2011 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279072 That is a picture of a different comet that was taken by Leonid Elenin. THat is not Elenin. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279072 United States02/27/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279072 That is a picture of a different comet that was taken by Leonid Elenin. THat is not Elenin. Ahh I see...It says C/2010 V not X |
| Menow User ID: 1278042 United States02/27/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: HeyduckFor example: This nonsense. This is absolutely wrong and has no basis in reality. "no longer agree with the galaxy's force"..... I don't think God could do a facepalm hard enough to express how stupid that entire post was. Ok bitch, this the only time i will be nice to you.. We are moving Southerly and the core of the galaxy is South of us, pulling us down. Soon We pass the EQ and we continue South while the Black hole pulls us central which is now contrary to our motion. As we encircle the galaxy we do a wave, up and down, back and forth across the galactic equator. The next time you wrongly insult me, expect to have a really bad time. What do you not understand bitch ? What do YOU not understand about the fact that a body like Jupiter has more gravitational effect on Earth when it passes nearer? How about the Moon? Idiot. The moon makes tides rise etc. Jupiter has move gravitational effect than WHAT ?? You didn't read the post you quoted? |
| Menow User ID: 1278042 United States02/27/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its approx. 10km in diameter. not exactly measured yet! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278011Source please? ty .. What is 10km in size?? If your talking about Planet X, they(scientists) think its 1.5 - 4 x the size of Jupiter... If your talking about Elenin, I havent seen them give a size yet.. I think you mean "you're", but what scientists allegedly think that? Please be specific. You are simply repeating internet blather. |
| Menow User ID: 1278042 United States02/27/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know NASA is worried that it will start tossing comets at us, which we have a comet on the way, due in October, that will come very close... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279025we have THREE comets on the way .. ALL OF WHICH which will come close. Why isnt that being reported!? Elenin: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] 45P/Honda: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] PN9: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] You're citing links for something, but claiming that it isn't being reported? :facepalm: |
| ill human not i. User ID: 1277988 United States02/27/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ill human not i.Ok bitch, this the only time i will be nice to you.. We are moving Southerly and the core of the galaxy is South of us, pulling us down. Soon We pass the EQ and we continue South while the Black hole pulls us central which is now contrary to our motion. As we encircle the galaxy we do a wave, up and down, back and forth across the galactic equator. The next time you wrongly insult me, expect to have a really bad time. What do you not understand bitch ? What do YOU not understand about the fact that a body like Jupiter has more gravitational effect on Earth when it passes nearer? How about the Moon? Idiot. The moon makes tides rise etc. Jupiter has move gravitational effect than WHAT ?? You didn't read the post you quoted? i get it, you are going to make your own hell hotter and hotter. Keep it up pussy, i enjoy helping clowns like you make sure the rest of humanity doesnt ever even see you in the windshield. You are going the wrong way little man. I like it, bye |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279072 United States02/27/2011 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reposting this link for people that havent seen it... Very cool interactive site by NASA about Near Earth Objects [link to www.jpl.nasa.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279072 United States02/27/2011 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reposting this link for people that havent seen it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279072Very cool interactive site by NASA about Near Earth Objects [link to www.jpl.nasa.gov] "Every 2000 years or so, a large meteorite the size of a football field hits Earth and causes significant damage to the area. "Finally only once every few million year an object large enough to threaten Earths civilization comes along. Impact craters on the Earth, the Moon and other planetary bodies are evidence of these occurrences." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1281022 United States03/01/2011 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody needs to get a dictionary and look up the word proof. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD You need some help reading this??? 30 page pdf - [link to xxx.lanl.gov] Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud John J. Matese and Daniel P. Whitmire Department of Physics Abstract: We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The results support a conjecture that there exists a companion of mass 1 4 MJupiter orbiting in the innermost region of the outer Oort cloud. Our most restrictive prediction is that the orientation angles of the orbit normal in galactic coordinates are centered on , the galactic longitude of the ascending node = and i, the galactic inclination = 103◦ (or the opposite direction) with an uncertainty in the normal direction subtending 2% of the sky. A Bayesian statistical analysis suggests that the probability of the companion hypothesis is comparable to or greater than the probability of the null hypothesis of a statistical fluke. Such a companion could also have produced the detached Kuiper Belt object Sedna. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) 1. Introduction Anomalies in the aphelia distribution and orbital elements of Outer Oort cloud comets led to the suggestion that ≈ 20% of these comets were made discernable due to a weak impulse from a bound Jovian mass body (Matese et al. ( 1999)). Since that time the data base of comets has doubled. Further motivation for an updated analysis comes from the recent launch of the Wide-Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE; Wright ( 2007)), which could easily detect the putative companion orbiting in the outer Oort cloud. Such an object would be incapable of creating comet “storms”. To help mitigate popular confusion with the Nemesis model (Whitmire and Jackson ( 1984), Davis et al. ( 1984)) we use the name recently suggested by Kirkpatrick and Wright (2010), Tyche, (the good sister of Nemesis) for the putative companion. 5. Summary and conclusions We have described how the dynamics of a dominant galactic tidal interaction, weakly aided by an impulsive perturbation, predicts specific properties for observed distributions of the galactic orbital elements of outer Oort cloud comets. These subtle predictions have been found to be manifest in high-quality observational data at statistically significant levels, suggesting that the observed OOC comet population contains an 20% impulsively produced excess. The extent of the enhanced arc is inconsistent with a weak stellar impulse, but is consistent with a Jovian mass solar companion orbiting in the OOC. A putative companion with these properties may also be capable of producing detached Kuiper Belt objects such as Sedna and has been given the name Tyche. Tyche could have significantly depleted the inner Oort cloud over the solar system lifetime requiring a corresponding increase in the inferred primordial Oort cloud population. A substantive difficulty with the Tyche conjecture is the absence of a corresponding excess in the presumed IOC daughter population. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1163097  Netherlands03/01/2011 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody needs to get a dictionary and look up the word proof. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCDYou need some help reading this??? 30 page pdf - [link to xxx.lanl.gov] Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud John J. Matese and Daniel P. Whitmire Department of Physics Abstract: We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The results support a conjecture that there exists a companion of mass 1 4 MJupiter orbiting in the innermost region of the outer Oort cloud. Our most restrictive prediction is that the orientation angles of the orbit normal in galactic coordinates are centered on , the galactic longitude of the ascending node = and i, the galactic inclination = 103◦ (or the opposite direction) with an uncertainty in the normal direction subtending 2% of the sky. A Bayesian statistical analysis suggests that the probability of the companion hypothesis is comparable to or greater than the probability of the null hypothesis of a statistical fluke. Such a companion could also have produced the detached Kuiper Belt object Sedna. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) 1. Introduction Anomalies in the aphelia distribution and orbital elements of Outer Oort cloud comets led to the suggestion that ≈ 20% of these comets were made discernable due to a weak impulse from a bound Jovian mass body (Matese et al. ( 1999)). Since that time the data base of comets has doubled. Further motivation for an updated analysis comes from the recent launch of the Wide-Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE; Wright ( 2007)), which could easily detect the putative companion orbiting in the outer Oort cloud. Such an object would be incapable of creating comet “storms”. To help mitigate popular confusion with the Nemesis model (Whitmire and Jackson ( 1984), Davis et al. ( 1984)) we use the name recently suggested by Kirkpatrick and Wright (2010), Tyche, (the good sister of Nemesis) for the putative companion. 5. Summary and conclusions We have described how the dynamics of a dominant galactic tidal interaction, weakly aided by an impulsive perturbation, predicts specific properties for observed distributions of the galactic orbital elements of outer Oort cloud comets. These subtle predictions have been found to be manifest in high-quality observational data at statistically significant levels, suggesting that the observed OOC comet population contains an 20% impulsively produced excess. The extent of the enhanced arc is inconsistent with a weak stellar impulse, but is consistent with a Jovian mass solar companion orbiting in the OOC. A putative companion with these properties may also be capable of producing detached Kuiper Belt objects such as Sedna and has been given the name Tyche. Tyche could have significantly depleted the inner Oort cloud over the solar system lifetime requiring a corresponding increase in the inferred primordial Oort cloud population. A substantive difficulty with the Tyche conjecture is the absence of a corresponding excess in the presumed IOC daughter population. Conclusions ? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1281022 United States03/02/2011 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody needs to get a dictionary and look up the word proof. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCDYou need some help reading this??? 30 page pdf - [link to xxx.lanl.gov] Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud John J. Matese and Daniel P. Whitmire Department of Physics Abstract: We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The results support a conjecture that there exists a companion of mass 1 4 MJupiter orbiting in the innermost region of the outer Oort cloud. Our most restrictive prediction is that the orientation angles of the orbit normal in galactic coordinates are centered on , the galactic longitude of the ascending node = and i, the galactic inclination = 103◦ (or the opposite direction) with an uncertainty in the normal direction subtending 2% of the sky. A Bayesian statistical analysis suggests that the probability of the companion hypothesis is comparable to or greater than the probability of the null hypothesis of a statistical fluke. Such a companion could also have produced the detached Kuiper Belt object Sedna. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) 1. Introduction Anomalies in the aphelia distribution and orbital elements of Outer Oort cloud comets led to the suggestion that ≈ 20% of these comets were made discernable due to a weak impulse from a bound Jovian mass body (Matese et al. ( 1999)). Since that time the data base of comets has doubled. Further motivation for an updated analysis comes from the recent launch of the Wide-Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE; Wright ( 2007)), which could easily detect the putative companion orbiting in the outer Oort cloud. Such an object would be incapable of creating comet “storms”. To help mitigate popular confusion with the Nemesis model (Whitmire and Jackson ( 1984), Davis et al. ( 1984)) we use the name recently suggested by Kirkpatrick and Wright (2010), Tyche, (the good sister of Nemesis) for the putative companion. 5. Summary and conclusions We have described how the dynamics of a dominant galactic tidal interaction, weakly aided by an impulsive perturbation, predicts specific properties for observed distributions of the galactic orbital elements of outer Oort cloud comets. These subtle predictions have been found to be manifest in high-quality observational data at statistically significant levels, suggesting that the observed OOC comet population contains an 20% impulsively produced excess. The extent of the enhanced arc is inconsistent with a weak stellar impulse, but is consistent with a Jovian mass solar companion orbiting in the OOC. A putative companion with these properties may also be capable of producing detached Kuiper Belt objects such as Sedna and has been given the name Tyche. Tyche could have significantly depleted the inner Oort cloud over the solar system lifetime requiring a corresponding increase in the inferred primordial Oort cloud population. A substantive difficulty with the Tyche conjecture is the absence of a corresponding excess in the presumed IOC daughter population. Conclusions ? We will know soon... They are analyzing data from WISE mission... All evidence is there, they just cant see it...And that is explained in the research too in this thread |
