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shadasonic User ID: 7848598 United States 01/19/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have an M class with an LDE of over 4hours and nothing pinned on this, amazing, now thats a conspiracy in itself! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/19/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have an M class with an LDE of over 4hours and nothing pinned on this, amazing, now thats a conspiracy in itself! Quoting: shadasonic well, the LDE started at about 13:15 UTC on the 19th the the LDE with this flare has been dropping so slow, that the Xray flux is JUST NOW dropped to the beginning C level at 02:19 UTC jan 20th Thats 13hrs give me 2 sek and i will update this post with the most recent composite from SDO that shows shows region 1401 still in flare mode ok, here is the most recent image as of 02:33utc jan 20th from SDO where you can see this active region very well here is the SDO image taken at around 21:36 utc Jan 19th they almost look the same ^^ the energy from that region has remained at high levels since the beginning of the LDE flare 13hrs ago here is the most recent image of SDO EVE usually we view this image to see the strength of a solar flare here we can see this region very clear we see its still releasing a lot of energy now, lets compair this SDO EVE image to one thats take at the moment of a M flare here is one i have on file in my smilies here is on from Sept 25th 2011 taken at the moment we had 2 flares measuring a M one after another we can compair this image to the one above and get a clearer idea of the amount of energy that has ramained being released from the sun for most of today Last Edited by NiNzrez on 01/19/2012 09:52 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/19/2012 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hiya OG :) threads always poppin when the sun wakes up ^^ Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
shadasonic User ID: 7848598 United States 01/19/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OG,you can't keep a good thread down! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
shadasonic User ID: 7848598 United States 01/19/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have an M class with an LDE of over 4hours and nothing pinned on this, amazing, now thats a conspiracy in itself! Quoting: shadasonic well, the LDE started at about 13:15 UTC on the 19th the the LDE with this flare has been dropping so slow, that the Xray flux is JUST NOW dropped to the beginning C level at 02:19 UTC jan 20th Thats 13hrs give me 2 sek and i will update this post with the most recent composite from SDO that shows shows region 1401 still in flare mode ok, here is the most recent image as of 02:33utc jan 20th from SDO where you can see this active region very well here is the SDO image taken at around 21:36 utc Jan 19th they almost look the same ^^ the energy from that region has remained at high levels since the beginning of the LDE flare 13hrs ago here is the most recent image of SDO EVE usually we view this image to see the strength of a solar flare here we can see this region very clear we see its still releasing a lot of energy now, lets compair this SDO EVE image to one thats take at the moment of a M flare here is one i have on file in my smilies here is on from Sept 25th 2011 taken at the moment we had 2 flares measuring a M one after another we can compair this image to the one above and get a clearer idea of the amount of energy that has ramained being released from the sun for most of today 13 HOURS , simply amazing “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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tomasgod1 User ID: 4888469 United States 01/19/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Guys! Here is NASAs prediction list for the arrival and duration of this multiple wave CME released with the LDE today. Event Issue Date: 2012-01-19 17:46:28.0 GMT CME Arrival Time: 2012-01-21 22:29:04.0 GMT Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours Disturbance Duration: 11 hours Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 5.3 Re Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:29:04 UTC Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:29:04 UTC Event Issue Date: 2012-01-20 01:01:56.0 GMT CME Arrival Time: 2012-01-22 00:52:12.0 GMT Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours Disturbance Duration: 9 hours Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 5.0 Re Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:52:12 UTC Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:52:12 UTC Event Issue Date: 2012-01-20 00:20:44.0 GMT CME Arrival Time: 2012-01-22 02:19:19.0 GMT Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours Disturbance Duration: 16 hours Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.5 Re Sun, 22 Jan 2012 02:19:19 UTC Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:19:19 UTC Last Edited by tomasgod1 on 01/20/2012 02:38 AM _______ Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] YouTube Channel [link to www.youtube.com] "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" FOUNDING FATHER, Patrick Henry (May 29, 1736 – June 6, 1799) |
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<<LOOK`n thru YOU>> User ID: 923851 United States 01/20/2012 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have an M class with an LDE of over 4hours and nothing pinned on this, amazing, now thats a conspiracy in itself! Quoting: shadasonic Morning my fellow suntards... Shadasonic...there was a thread pinned on this..here is the link Thread: A Long Duration Solar Flare++ Right now..M3 ..CME detected..earth directed.. |
Starwind User ID: 4546990 United States 01/20/2012 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've checked the solaralert blog and a few other places but is there any more information on the CME today? The only thing new I've seen is that it had a type II and IV radio emission and it was in fact a full halo CME. Also I am a suntard but I haven't followed CME impacts for very long, so will there still be any effect on our magnetosphere from the CME due to impact the day before the full-halo? |
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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've checked the solaralert blog and a few other places but is there any more information on the CME today? Quoting: Starwind The only thing new I've seen is that it had a type II and IV radio emission and it was in fact a full halo CME. Also I am a suntard but I haven't followed CME impacts for very long, so will there still be any effect on our magnetosphere from the CME due to impact the day before the full-halo? hi :) the full halo we see is from the ejection of the CME from the sun depending on its speed, it usually takes anywhere from 2-4 days before it reaches earth once it reaches earth, at that time is when you will see the effects of the CME this is when the particles that make up the CME impact earths magnetosphere after the CME leaves the field of view from STEREO and LASCO images, it's a waiting game until it reaches Earth there is nothing more to report about this CME at this time but that will all change when it arrives We are expecting this compact CME to arrive sometime on Saturday Jan. 21st stay tuned for updates when it arrives! hope that helpes in answering your question :) Last Edited by NiNzrez on 01/20/2012 09:53 AM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
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learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/20/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also keep in mind. Quoting: learner 8531500 Venus is still roughly 90 deg to us. -possibility of Earth bound CME's only (more often?) when 90 deg planetary coupling? Mars @ 90 deg 7.02.2012 Venus + Mercury (in opposition) : 10.22.2012 crazy ass long flare. data. correction: Mars = 90deg on 10.02.2012 (ish) Venus and Mercury in opposition and both 90deg to us (making a tee). and of course Mercury will have orbited a buncha times by the end of the year....i'll be posting those dates as they come up. i have a feeling it's gonna quite a 'ride' : shiteatinggrin.jpg |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to hask you if this CME can disrupt weather patterns, magnetic field and make in it breaks like we see last year. Thank's Quoting: Luisport i believe yes we have seen many cases when a CME arrives and then we see the "weird weather" posts/articles pop up in abundance. Many posters in here have posted articles related to how particles from space interact with our atmosphere and cause extreem changes when they interact with terestrial elements. 1st, we look at how the sun effects our magnetosphere: The solar wind affects the other incoming cosmic rays interacting with the atmosphere of planets. Moreover, planets with a weak or non-existent magnetosphere are subject to atmospheric stripping by the solar wind. Earth itself is largely protected from the solar wind by its magnetic field, which deflects most of the charged particles; however some of the charged particles are trapped in the Van Allen radiation belt. A smaller number of particles from the solar wind manage to travel, as though on an electromagnetic energy transmission line, to the Earth's upper atmosphere and ionosphere in the auroral zones. The only time the solar wind is observable on the Earth is when it is strong enough to produce phenomena such as the aurora and geomagnetic storms. Bright auroras strongly heat the ionosphere, causing its plasma to expand into the magnetosphere, increasing the size of the plasma geosphere, and causing escape of atmospheric matter into the solar wind. Geomagnetic storms result when the pressure of plasmas contained inside the magnetosphere is sufficiently large to inflate and thereby distort the geomagnetic field. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Then we look at the measured changes this causes Earth’s Magnetic Field and Climate Variability The strength of the Earth’s magnetic field varies tremendously around the world. The following figure shows the magnetic field intensity around the world in 2005 [ [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov] The magnetic field has greatest strength near the poles and the weakest area over South America and across the El Nino area of the Pacific Ocean. The areas of greatest warming are where the magnetic field is at its greatest intensity in the northern polar region, whereas the area of greatest cooling is where the magnetic field is at its greatest intensity in the southern polar region. on the interactions of CME's with Earth: This restructuring visibly manifests itself most clearly in the production of ionized plasmas and the associated distribution of aurora high over the north and south polar regions. In turn, the Earth’s lower atmosphere (that part responsible for weather phenomena) undergoes variations in composition and dynamics influenced by these coupling effects through a complex and as yet not fully understood feedback system [link to www.megakastro.gr] that article is a MUST READ for anyone wanting to understand how CME's effect our earth and our weather it has images, graphs from studys and lays it all out 1 by 1 for us Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9210833 Portugal 01/20/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to hask you if this CME can disrupt weather patterns, magnetic field and make in it breaks like we see last year. Thank's Quoting: Luisport i believe yes we have seen many cases when a CME arrives and then we see the "weird weather" posts/articles pop up in abundance. Many posters in here have posted articles related to how particles from space interact with our atmosphere and cause extreem changes when they interact with terestrial elements. 1st, we look at how the sun effects our magnetosphere: The solar wind affects the other incoming cosmic rays interacting with the atmosphere of planets. Moreover, planets with a weak or non-existent magnetosphere are subject to atmospheric stripping by the solar wind. Earth itself is largely protected from the solar wind by its magnetic field, which deflects most of the charged particles; however some of the charged particles are trapped in the Van Allen radiation belt. A smaller number of particles from the solar wind manage to travel, as though on an electromagnetic energy transmission line, to the Earth's upper atmosphere and ionosphere in the auroral zones. The only time the solar wind is observable on the Earth is when it is strong enough to produce phenomena such as the aurora and geomagnetic storms. Bright auroras strongly heat the ionosphere, causing its plasma to expand into the magnetosphere, increasing the size of the plasma geosphere, and causing escape of atmospheric matter into the solar wind. Geomagnetic storms result when the pressure of plasmas contained inside the magnetosphere is sufficiently large to inflate and thereby distort the geomagnetic field. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Then we look at the measured changes this causes Earth’s Magnetic Field and Climate Variability The strength of the Earth’s magnetic field varies tremendously around the world. The following figure shows the magnetic field intensity around the world in 2005 [ [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov] The magnetic field has greatest strength near the poles and the weakest area over South America and across the El Nino area of the Pacific Ocean. The areas of greatest warming are where the magnetic field is at its greatest intensity in the northern polar region, whereas the area of greatest cooling is where the magnetic field is at its greatest intensity in the southern polar region. on the interactions of CME's with Earth: This restructuring visibly manifests itself most clearly in the production of ionized plasmas and the associated distribution of aurora high over the north and south polar regions. In turn, the Earth’s lower atmosphere (that part responsible for weather phenomena) undergoes variations in composition and dynamics influenced by these coupling effects through a complex and as yet not fully understood feedback system [link to www.megakastro.gr] that article is a MUST READ for anyone wanting to understand how CME's effect our earth and our weather it has images, graphs from studys and lays it all out 1 by 1 for us You are great! And do you think it can break like last year, and material of CME reach the surface of the planet? |
learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/20/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | omg : awesome orrery [link to www.dynamicdiagrams.com] you can really see that the Sol's rotation period is the same as the Luna's orbital period in this model. very sweet. |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nin Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1272162 Can you please put on your blog a spreadsheet with this info to keep track of the events, specially if earth bound. -ejection date/time -FLARE -CME -direction -duration -arrival date/time etc..... we have always had the flare time but have started to add something similar to what your asking for January 2012: M2.6 Flare on 1/19/2012 @ 15:30 UTC - Sunspot 1402 M3.2 Flare on 1/19/2012 @ 16:05 UTC - Sunspot 1402 - This was a double flare event - LDE lasting 13hrs. starting 13:43 Jan 19 - ending aprox. 03:00 UTC Jan 20th - CME produced ETA: 22:00 utc Jan 21, 2012 M1.7 Flare on 1/18/2012 @ 19:12 UTC - Sunspot 1401 M1.0 Flare on 1/17/2012 @ 04:53 UTC - Sunspot 1401 C6.5 Flare on 1/16/2012 @ 04:44 UTC - Sunspot 1402 - LDE lasting 4 hrs. starting 02:36 - ending 06:46 - CME Produced ETA Jan 20th 2012 M1.4 Flare on 1/14/2012 @ 13:18 UTC - Sunspot 1401 this is updated on the 1st page of this thread, and on the flare count page of the solar alerts blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] on the blog we have added a list of expected CMEs to the right hand column of each page, labeled "CME's Expected" We will add CMEs we are expecting in there, so that we can all keep track of whats expected and when. When you click the CME link, you are directed to the original post for that event where all details are added Last Edited by NiNzrez on 01/20/2012 12:21 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to hask you if this CME can disrupt weather patterns, magnetic field and make in it breaks like we see last year. Thank's Quoting: Luisport i believe yes we have seen many cases when a CME arrives and then we see the "weird weather" posts/articles pop up in abundance. Many posters in here have posted articles related to how particles from space interact with our atmosphere and cause extreem changes when they interact with terestrial elements. 1st, we look at how the sun effects our magnetosphere: The solar wind affects the other incoming cosmic rays interacting with the atmosphere of planets. Moreover, planets with a weak or non-existent magnetosphere are subject to atmospheric stripping by the solar wind. Earth itself is largely protected from the solar wind by its magnetic field, which deflects most of the charged particles; however some of the charged particles are trapped in the Van Allen radiation belt. A smaller number of particles from the solar wind manage to travel, as though on an electromagnetic energy transmission line, to the Earth's upper atmosphere and ionosphere in the auroral zones. The only time the solar wind is observable on the Earth is when it is strong enough to produce phenomena such as the aurora and geomagnetic storms. Bright auroras strongly heat the ionosphere, causing its plasma to expand into the magnetosphere, increasing the size of the plasma geosphere, and causing escape of atmospheric matter into the solar wind. Geomagnetic storms result when the pressure of plasmas contained inside the magnetosphere is sufficiently large to inflate and thereby distort the geomagnetic field. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Then we look at the measured changes this causes Earth’s Magnetic Field and Climate Variability The strength of the Earth’s magnetic field varies tremendously around the world. The following figure shows the magnetic field intensity around the world in 2005 [ [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov] The magnetic field has greatest strength near the poles and the weakest area over South America and across the El Nino area of the Pacific Ocean. The areas of greatest warming are where the magnetic field is at its greatest intensity in the northern polar region, whereas the area of greatest cooling is where the magnetic field is at its greatest intensity in the southern polar region. on the interactions of CME's with Earth: This restructuring visibly manifests itself most clearly in the production of ionized plasmas and the associated distribution of aurora high over the north and south polar regions. In turn, the Earth’s lower atmosphere (that part responsible for weather phenomena) undergoes variations in composition and dynamics influenced by these coupling effects through a complex and as yet not fully understood feedback system [link to www.megakastro.gr] that article is a MUST READ for anyone wanting to understand how CME's effect our earth and our weather it has images, graphs from studys and lays it all out 1 by 1 for us You are great! And do you think it can break like last year, and material of CME reach the surface of the planet? :) yes, more than last year because we are entering the solar max and solar activity will increase a great deal Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | omg : awesome orrery Quoting: learner 8531500 [link to www.dynamicdiagrams.com] you can really see that the Sol's rotation period is the same as the Luna's orbital period in this model. very sweet. love that site as well as this one [link to www.solarsystemscope.com] click play and it animates Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | on a note about the sounds in the sky... Pay special attention to the 1:44 mark. the magnetosphere cusp [link to www.youtube.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/20/2012 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pay special attention to the 1:44 mark. the magnetosphere cusp [link to www.youtube.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
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learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/20/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | on a whim, i checked the CME list Nin's/IWTB blog. Unless i missed one, there was only one earth directed CME produced last year. Quoting: leaner 8531500 'twas on 9.07, yes? well: Venus was in 90 planetary coupling with us on that date.... ^^ correction: twas Mars! hmmm. Mars. When did all that OWS hullabaloo begin? |
learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/20/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | on a whim, i checked the CME list Nin's/IWTB blog. Unless i missed one, there was only one earth directed CME produced last year. Quoting: leaner 8531500 'twas on 9.07, yes? well: Venus was in 90 planetary coupling with us on that date.... ^^ correction: twas Mars! hmmm. Mars. When did all that OWS hullabaloo begin? and Luna was agian behind us when the cme hit. so curious! |
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