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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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That was a long C-Flare....roughly two hours long...
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That was a long C-Flare....roughly two hours long...
[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru]
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 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Good morning hf

Is it from 1492, or a still to be named region ?
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
 Quoting: whiteangel


good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
hiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


very interesting isnt it-- [link to www.solarham.net]
bloody big spike, and seems to be still rising?
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thanks for the answer Hugh hf
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Morning TS66
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Morning TS66
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Morning Nerd :)

lmsal [link to www.lmsal.com] isn't cooperating again, but is looks like region S12E58 maybe the culprit [link to www.lmsal.com]

Maybe Lockheed has the weekend off ??
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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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Thanks a bunch...+1 Karma to you =)
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Full halo ??? NICE !!! That would explain it .... Thank you hf
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That long C-Flare really calmed ol Sol down...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Electrical idea's on plasma cavitation -
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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Electrical idea's on plasma cavitation -
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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this looks nice but so far every link in that thread is either corrupt or gone. site are missing or gone....
would be nice to see the research and data....more then just the thread.
but that sure seems to be heading in the right direction. 4 years ago!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Thanks, AC, here's the NASA cygnet model for the CME which caused the proton spike:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

There seems to be some confusion due to NOAA's retarded sunspot numbers. As I mentioned before, Solarsoft has changed all the flares attributed to 1492 to un-numbered coordinates.
[link to www.lmsal.com]

SIDC attributed the LDE flare to 1492, yet their own "flare-predictor" chart shows 1492 in another location.
[link to sidc.oma.be]

Solen Active Region Map:
[link to www.solen.info]

SOHO SS Map:
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

Solar Monitor seems to have given up; no data and no flare list:
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]

I'm glad I'm not the only one confused.

Here's the chart for the C3.1 LDE flare from Solarsoft:
[link to www.lmsal.com]

I find it incredible if NOAA hasn't yet numbered a region we've been watching for 3 or 4 days now. Somehow our government bureaucracy can assign numbers to 100's of millions of people, yet they can't efficiently number 10 sunspots, hahaha.

Anyway, Solarsoft has posted the SDO close-up of the LDE flare in two different colors...enjoy:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
CACTus details of Type II Halo CME:

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

SEEDS CME movie:

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

It appears Earth has dodged the bullet once again, however we may see a shock or a glancing ripple. Stay on your toes tho', the next eruption from this region may be Earth-directed.
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
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Sorry about that, I'll have to dig around - see if I can find the links.
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I looked on Giburu, there is a bunch of citations under "Plasma Cavities" sp?,
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I am sure there is more info on Thunderbolts also.
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
 Quoting: whiteangel


Good question, and I don't know the answer.tounge
Where oh where has IWTB1776 gone? Still moving?- he would know this answer.
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It is 11492.very huge
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
 Quoting: whiteangel


Good question, and I don't know the answer.tounge
Where oh where has IWTB1776 gone? Still moving?- he would know this answer.
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Here's a composite SDO/AIA image from March 9th showing 1429 near mid-disk and the large coronal hole on east limb. I'd say 1429 was about 60 degrees ahead of the CH. However, 1476 was on the left of the CH and should be back before the Venus transit next week.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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I think that guys from SWPC / NOAA are not doing a good job, according to solen.info webmaster commentaries wrote on AR11486.

[link to imageshack.us]

[link to www.solen.info]
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Fi Fy Fo Fum
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Fi Fy Fo Fum
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lol
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I think that guys from SWPC / NOAA are not doing a good job, according to solen.info webmaster commentaries wrote on AR11486.

[link to imageshack.us]

[link to www.solen.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12566282


Ha, ha, that's great! Nice find,1rof1 applausecheers
I was beginning to think we were being too hyper-critical of NOAA here at GLP. Maybe that's why Solar Monitor and Lockheed's Solarsoft has been de-listing NOAA active region numbers. I wish we knew the real scuttlebutt and "behind-the-scenes" pathos of the Heliophysics soap-opera. Any whistle-blowers out there? If the guy at Solen is complaining, it's a serious issue.

The recent CME produced a large area of coronal dimming.
:flare5/27:

Here's a good synopsis of what coronal dimming signifies-

One signature of expulsion of coronal mass ejections (CMEs) from the solar corona is the appearance of transient intensity dimmings in coronal images. These dimmings have generally been assumed to be due to discharge of CME material from the corona, and thus the "dimming regions" are thought of as an important signature of the sources of CMEs.

More here: [link to iopscience.iop.org]

Another good paper on coronal dimming:
[link to www.mendeley.com]

That CME really seemed to pack a punch....more like cannon firing-this is a region to be wary of.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
The SDO single-wave images are updating again, woo-hoo. Here'e the latest AIA 304a image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

A region just south of 1492 is just a tiny spot, but it has a strong x-ray, EUV, and magnetic footprint. This region may be interacting with the big one.

Latest EVE x-ray image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI color magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Both regions look blended together in the GOES-15 X-ray Imager:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

The spike in the ACE protons and electrons from that CME should serve as a notice that this region could be volatile.

ACE 3-day electrons plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
 Quoting: whiteangel


Good question, and I don't know the answer.tounge
Where oh where has IWTB1776 gone? Still moving?- he would know this answer.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Here's a composite SDO/AIA image from March 9th showing 1429 near mid-disk and the large coronal hole on east limb. I'd say 1429 was about 60 degrees ahead of the CH. However, 1476 was on the left of the CH and should be back before the Venus transit next week.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Thank you Hugh. I knew something was suppose to be around that hole but couldn't remember. Someone on here told me it would be back around about the time of the Venus Transit which causes alarm for many.
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Does any one know of a feed that updates automatically pics of solar activity? A friend has a forum that he wants to put a live solar feed on, not a chart but sun images.
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Does any one know of a feed that updates automatically pics of solar activity? A friend has a forum that he wants to put a live solar feed on, not a chart but sun images.
 Quoting: whiteangel


Well the GONG H-alpha updates every minute usually (from Earth-based global network of solar telescopes.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

The SDO is supposed to update full-color multi-wavelength images every 15 mins. or so:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

They're your two best options I'd say. Solar Monitor has been slipping lately, but Solarsoft is usually pretty reliable. For exploration of all images and data check out the iSWA website (integrated Space Weather Analysis Center from NASA Goddard, I believe).

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Check out NIN's blog-site and others that have real-time updating feeds:

[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]

Speaking of NIN, where's she been? I notice her blog hasn't updated since May 17. I hope she's out jogging on her healed leg and enjoying the Spring sunshine.
We love and miss you, Ninzrez, wherever you are.
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So far quite a rockin' year for solar activity. The last two major sunspot areas of March and May sure were an electrifying ride. Can't wait for the next monster sunspot action to start...godzilla

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So far quite a rockin' year for solar activity. The last two major sunspot areas of March and May sure were an electrifying ride. Can't wait for the next monster sunspot action to start...godzilla
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


I agree, Solar Guardian, we're havin' fun and learning a helluva lot. Never in history have we had so many imagers and data-gathering space platforms looking at solar activity. I was dumbfounded to find out that the top "know-it-all" astrophysicists don't yet understand what is happening on the Sun (but they'll be happy to tell ya 'bout black holes and the origins of space-time, LOL).

To keep things in perspective, I just found a computer printout from Solarsoft from 2006. I think I found that website for the very first time and was so bewildered, I printed the page for later consideration. Anyway, my point is they were tracking A FLARES!! On the flare list, 6 out of 9 flares were A-flares and the rest were B's. I guess heliophysicists are lonely and bored during Solar Minimum. (Nov. 3rd, 2006 if you want to check their archives).

By the way, there's been a double-header filament eruption in the NW and N. Central, possibly still in progress at this writing. Soon STEREO & SOHO will tell us what kind of CME we're facing. The GONG Udaipur Observatory has a self-updating movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

SDO is back in top form, and watching the movie of recent 171 images, it seems the southeast has been heating up. All of the regions from mid-disk to the limb seem to be communicating with each other magnetically.

The movie is better, but here's a recent AIA 171a image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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