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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 28232082  United States05/22/2013 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: whiteangel The CH stream the coronal hole winds are due to hit in a few days SOLAR WIND: A stream of solar wind blowing from a southern coronal hole on the sun is expected to brush past Earth's magnetic field on May 23-24. NOAA forecasters estimate a 30% chance that the contact will spark polar geomagnetic storms Quoting: NiNzrez [link to spaceweather.com] this CH wind will be arriving just before the CME from todays event, paving the path so to speak because of this, I would expect this CME to cause a bit more of a stir on earths magnetosphere than it would have otherwise Is There Any Evident Effect of Coronal Holes on Gradual Solar Energetic Particle Events? [link to iopscience.iop.org] Solar energetic particle (SEP) events are one of the most important processes in space weather. Generally, SEP events have two classes: one is impulsive and the other is gradual (Cane et al. 1986; Reames 1999; Kallenrode 2003). The energetic particles in impulsive events usually come from the sites where flares occur. Rapid release of magnetic energy through magnetic field reconnections produces them. The particles in gradual events are considered to be generated at coronal/interplanetary shocks driven by fast coronal mass ejections (CMEs; e.g., Reames 1999). Statistically, gradual SEP events are larger and longer than the impulsive events. Mixed SEP events may also exist (e.g., Cane et al. 2003), in which there are both flare and shock particle components Both the fast and slow solar wind can be interrupted by large, fast-moving bursts of plasma called interplanetary coronal mass ejections, or ICMEs. ICMEs are the interplanetary manifestation of solar coronal mass ejections, which are caused by release of magnetic energy at the Sun. CMEs are often called "solar storms" or "space storms" in the popular media. They are sometimes, but not always, associated with solar flares, which are another manifestation of magnetic energy release at the Sun. ICMEs cause shock waves in the thin plasma of the heliosphere, launching electromagnetic waves and accelerating particles (mostly protons and electrons) to form showers of ionizing radiation that precede the CME [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by NiNzrez on 05/22/2013 05:34 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12410908 United States05/22/2013 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun literally 'communicates' with Earth through not only a heat balance, and radiation, but also electromagnetics (as well as in multiple dimensional fields too - but that is for another day). When the solar electromagnetics 'bursts' toward Earth, it ripples through the ionosphere, and eventually 'slams' into the oceans / lithosphere (land). Volcanoes, earthquakes and some tsunamis get their "communication" (directives, if you will) from the sun, as well as other cosmic energy pathways meeting in with earth, as well as certain energetic vibrations within earth. The communication multi-channel is complex for sure. Essentially, in the example we are talking about, the solar energy can directly cause a volcano to erupt, and/or it can trigger a larger earthquake, and if that vibration is in the ocean (or sometimes near a body of water), the sun's electromagnetic pulse can literally set-off a tsunami. IF a tsunami did occur in the North Atlantic, it is more likely than not, that given the spectrum of magnetics at this time, the propagation of the wave would be from SE to NW, that is, from the West Coast of Africa to Newfoundland (and then that water would go down the Eastern Seaboard). The water would also come straight toward the NE USA / Mid-Atlantic USA coastline, and perhaps further south if the wave is larger. As for Britain, the consequences would be less than those in the USA, but you would still get a notable water risk even in the median case / risk scenario. Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 (Page 11) |
| BloodyT3CH User ID: 2148885  Lithuania05/22/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun literally 'communicates' with Earth through not only a heat balance, and radiation, but also electromagnetics (as well as in multiple dimensional fields too - but that is for another day). When the solar electromagnetics 'bursts' toward Earth, it ripples through the ionosphere, and eventually 'slams' into the oceans / lithosphere (land). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12410908 Volcanoes, earthquakes and some tsunamis get their "communication" (directives, if you will) from the sun, as well as other cosmic energy pathways meeting in with earth, as well as certain energetic vibrations within earth. The communication multi-channel is complex for sure. Essentially, in the example we are talking about, the solar energy can directly cause a volcano to erupt, and/or it can trigger a larger earthquake, and if that vibration is in the ocean (or sometimes near a body of water), the sun's electromagnetic pulse can literally set-off a tsunami. IF a tsunami did occur in the North Atlantic, it is more likely than not, that given the spectrum of magnetics at this time, the propagation of the wave would be from SE to NW, that is, from the West Coast of Africa to Newfoundland (and then that water would go down the Eastern Seaboard). The water would also come straight toward the NE USA / Mid-Atlantic USA coastline, and perhaps further south if the wave is larger. As for Britain, the consequences would be less than those in the USA, but you would still get a notable water risk even in the median case / risk scenario. Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 (Page 11) "Doctor" is that you?  Religion is the biggest joke i've ever seen - ME |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12410908 United States05/22/2013 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mental illness and solar spikes are well-documented, although the peer-reviewed literature does not politically allow much to be said on the subject. But it is true: zombie-ism can be induced by a change in magnetics. Now obviously, this standalone case was probably drugs too (as the majority reason for his insanity), but the POINT is that as the sun changes, NASA and other parts of the government know that approximately 5-15% of the population will have rapidly-advancing mental illness when the magnetics shift. Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 (Page 11) |
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| VAK User ID: 40160331 United States05/22/2013 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic? Quoting: shadasonic There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all These be auspicious times  howdy |
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| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 28232082 United States05/22/2013 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is the direct link to ALL ACE plots [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40310200  Portugal05/22/2013 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | protons are rising a lot! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
| BloodyT3CH User ID: 2148885 Lithuania05/22/2013 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic? Quoting: shadasonic There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all These be auspicious times As i like to call it, the solar drawback.  Religion is the biggest joke i've ever seen - ME |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12410908 United States05/22/2013 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: GOES-13 sattelite is down!!!!!! GOES-13 suffered an anomaly overnight: the satellite is no longer pointed towards the Earth for as yet unknown reasons. The anomaly started at 03:40 UTC on 22 May, and at 04:29 UTC, GOES-West (GOES-15) began a 30-minute full disk scan schedule. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40309525 GOES-14, in standby mode at 105.5 W longitude, has been activated; the first images from GOES-14 will be available at 05:00 UTC 23 May. There are no plans now to move GOES-14 from its current position. [link to cimss.ssec.wisc.edu] bolded above in other words: 14 will not cover a significant portion of the eastern atlantic (13 is typically positioned at 75W to cover entire atlantic) Subject: Product Outage/Anomaly: GOES-13 (GOES-East) [link to www.ssd.noaa.gov] Subject: Product Outage/Anomaly: GOES-13 (GOES-East) [Latest Update] [link to www.ssd.noaa.gov] remember this? Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 |
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| optimum judgment User ID: 24021617  United Kingdom05/22/2013 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: whiteangel The CH stream the coronal hole winds are due to hit in a few days SOLAR WIND: A stream of solar wind blowing from a southern coronal hole on the sun is expected to brush past Earth's magnetic field on May 23-24. NOAA forecasters estimate a 30% chance that the contact will spark polar geomagnetic storms Quoting: NiNzrez [link to spaceweather.com] this CH wind will be arriving just before the CME from todays event, paving the path so to speak because of this, I would expect this CME to cause a bit more of a stir on earths magnetosphere than it would have otherwise Is There Any Evident Effect of Coronal Holes on Gradual Solar Energetic Particle Events? [link to iopscience.iop.org] Solar energetic particle (SEP) events are one of the most important processes in space weather. Generally, SEP events have two classes: one is impulsive and the other is gradual (Cane et al. 1986; Reames 1999; Kallenrode 2003). The energetic particles in impulsive events usually come from the sites where flares occur. Rapid release of magnetic energy through magnetic field reconnections produces them. The particles in gradual events are considered to be generated at coronal/interplanetary shocks driven by fast coronal mass ejections (CMEs; e.g., Reames 1999). Statistically, gradual SEP events are larger and longer than the impulsive events. Mixed SEP events may also exist (e.g., Cane et al. 2003), in which there are both flare and shock particle components Both the fast and slow solar wind can be interrupted by large, fast-moving bursts of plasma called interplanetary coronal mass ejections, or ICMEs. ICMEs are the interplanetary manifestation of solar coronal mass ejections, which are caused by release of magnetic energy at the Sun. CMEs are often called "solar storms" or "space storms" in the popular media. They are sometimes, but not always, associated with solar flares, which are another manifestation of magnetic energy release at the Sun. ICMEs cause shock waves in the thin plasma of the heliosphere, launching electromagnetic waves and accelerating particles (mostly protons and electrons) to form showers of ionizing radiation that precede the CME [link to en.wikipedia.org] SO the coronal hole streams end up catching up with say a cme or slow moving stream of solar particles and they colide causing them to bunch up,causing a shock when it hits and tacking longer to absorb into our shield? close or miles off? |
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| Da fuq User ID: 39799437 United States05/22/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16845676 United States05/22/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Play the movie again. The speckles dancing across the image are caused by high-energy solar protons striking the CCD camera in SOHO's coronagraph. Those protons were guided toward Earth by magnetic field lines that connect our planet to the blast site. The rain of protons is what forecasters mean by a "radiation storm." This storm ranks S2 on NOAA storm scales. [link to spaceweather.com]  |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 28232082 United States05/22/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the coronal hole winds are due to hit in a few days SOLAR WIND: A stream of solar wind blowing from a southern coronal hole on the sun is expected to brush past Earth's magnetic field on May 23-24. NOAA forecasters estimate a 30% chance that the contact will spark polar geomagnetic storms Quoting: NiNzrez [link to spaceweather.com] this CH wind will be arriving just before the CME from todays event, paving the path so to speak because of this, I would expect this CME to cause a bit more of a stir on earths magnetosphere than it would have otherwise Is There Any Evident Effect of Coronal Holes on Gradual Solar Energetic Particle Events? [link to iopscience.iop.org] Solar energetic particle (SEP) events are one of the most important processes in space weather. Generally, SEP events have two classes: one is impulsive and the other is gradual (Cane et al. 1986; Reames 1999; Kallenrode 2003). The energetic particles in impulsive events usually come from the sites where flares occur. Rapid release of magnetic energy through magnetic field reconnections produces them. The particles in gradual events are considered to be generated at coronal/interplanetary shocks driven by fast coronal mass ejections (CMEs; e.g., Reames 1999). Statistically, gradual SEP events are larger and longer than the impulsive events. Mixed SEP events may also exist (e.g., Cane et al. 2003), in which there are both flare and shock particle components Both the fast and slow solar wind can be interrupted by large, fast-moving bursts of plasma called interplanetary coronal mass ejections, or ICMEs. ICMEs are the interplanetary manifestation of solar coronal mass ejections, which are caused by release of magnetic energy at the Sun. CMEs are often called "solar storms" or "space storms" in the popular media. They are sometimes, but not always, associated with solar flares, which are another manifestation of magnetic energy release at the Sun. ICMEs cause shock waves in the thin plasma of the heliosphere, launching electromagnetic waves and accelerating particles (mostly protons and electrons) to form showers of ionizing radiation that precede the CME [link to en.wikipedia.org] SO the coronal hole streams end up catching up with say a cme or slow moving stream of solar particles and they colide causing them to bunch up,causing a shock when it hits and tacking longer to absorb into our shield? close or miles off? close the SEP event (solar energetic protons) that we are having right now breaks down the ionosphere, then the fast CH winds will intertwined with the CME that's incoming, (mix that with the parker spiral) and they all bunch up so to speak, while enrout in space and arrive together and make impact with a weaker magnetosphere (weaker because of the SEP event) the slower solar winds we are seeing right now are a type of 'tsunami' type of effect that we have seen and talked about in here before when there was a larger CME with a proton event. kinda like the sucking out before it comes in Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 28232082 United States05/22/2013 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it should continue to rise for around at least 12hrs after the beginning of the event we talked some about this 2 pages back (I think it was) Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16845676 United States05/22/2013 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetic Field Misbehavior in Solar Flares Explained: The Culprit Is Turbulence [link to www.sciencedaily.com] |
| Da fuq User ID: 39799437 United States05/22/2013 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Magnetic Field Misbehavior in Solar Flares Explained: The Culprit Is Turbulence Quoting: Goofy for God [link to www.sciencedaily.com] |
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| optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom05/22/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the coronal hole winds are due to hit in a few days SOLAR WIND: A stream of solar wind blowing from a southern coronal hole on the sun is expected to brush past Earth's magnetic field on May 23-24. NOAA forecasters estimate a 30% chance that the contact will spark polar geomagnetic storms Quoting: NiNzrez [link to spaceweather.com] this CH wind will be arriving just before the CME from todays event, paving the path so to speak because of this, I would expect this CME to cause a bit more of a stir on earths magnetosphere than it would have otherwise Is There Any Evident Effect of Coronal Holes on Gradual Solar Energetic Particle Events? [link to iopscience.iop.org] Solar energetic particle (SEP) events are one of the most important processes in space weather. Generally, SEP events have two classes: one is impulsive and the other is gradual (Cane et al. 1986; Reames 1999; Kallenrode 2003). The energetic particles in impulsive events usually come from the sites where flares occur. Rapid release of magnetic energy through magnetic field reconnections produces them. The particles in gradual events are considered to be generated at coronal/interplanetary shocks driven by fast coronal mass ejections (CMEs; e.g., Reames 1999). Statistically, gradual SEP events are larger and longer than the impulsive events. Mixed SEP events may also exist (e.g., Cane et al. 2003), in which there are both flare and shock particle components Both the fast and slow solar wind can be interrupted by large, fast-moving bursts of plasma called interplanetary coronal mass ejections, or ICMEs. ICMEs are the interplanetary manifestation of solar coronal mass ejections, which are caused by release of magnetic energy at the Sun. CMEs are often called "solar storms" or "space storms" in the popular media. They are sometimes, but not always, associated with solar flares, which are another manifestation of magnetic energy release at the Sun. ICMEs cause shock waves in the thin plasma of the heliosphere, launching electromagnetic waves and accelerating particles (mostly protons and electrons) to form showers of ionizing radiation that precede the CME [link to en.wikipedia.org] SO the coronal hole streams end up catching up with say a cme or slow moving stream of solar particles and they colide causing them to bunch up,causing a shock when it hits and tacking longer to absorb into our shield? close or miles off? close the SEP event (solar energetic protons) that we are having right now breaks down the ionosphere, then the fast CH winds will intertwined with the CME that's incoming, (mix that with the parker spiral) and they all bunch up so to speak, while enrout in space and arrive together and make impact with a weaker magnetosphere (weaker because of the SEP event) the slower solar winds we are seeing right now are a type of 'tsunami' type of effect that we have seen and talked about in here before when there was a larger CME with a proton event. kinda like the sucking out before it comes in AH thanks  |
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and the sun is acting kinda crazy right now..
