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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wooo hoooo!! Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20368566 Ireland 11/17/2013 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center.. someone should upload this and put it up |
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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center.. someone should upload this and put it up I'm trying to make a smilie, how do you reduce the KB's? I got the pixels down but it says 200KB is the limit and the image says its 767.6KB. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center.. someone should upload this and put it up Here's the latest magnetogram for AR1899- Same region 2 days ago also shows a ring, but no green in the 'eye of the hurricane'- :11/15-1899mag: Magnetogram for the little sparkplug AR1900- :11/17-1900mag: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28239113 Venezuela 11/17/2013 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astounding amount of activity from such a small region. I've been waiting for 1897 or 1899 to spark up a bit ...but no dice. Quoting: Hugh M Eye Magnetic loop's reconnection only in 1897 and 1899 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center.. someone should upload this and put it up Here's the latest magnetogram for AR1899- Same region 2 days ago also shows a ring, but no green in the 'eye of the hurricane'- :11/15-1899mag: Magnetogram for the little sparkplug AR1900- :11/17-1900mag: You are a master with those solar smilies. How'd you get it to fit? Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center.. someone should upload this and put it up I'm trying to make a smilie, how do you reduce the KB's? I got the pixels down but it says 200KB is the limit and the image says its 767.6KB. Usually, if it's a tiff, gif, or png file you have to convert it (or 'save as..') to a jpeg image. |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice CME headed south of the ecliptic. Hey, isn't that where ISON is? Look Out, ISON! [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom 11/17/2013 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) I don't know if it has been seen before? But it sure is interesting thank's. |
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TS66 User ID: 49433581 United States 11/17/2013 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ??? The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A. The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities. And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares. If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ? |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ??? Quoting: TS66 49433581 The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A. The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities. And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares. If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ? Howdy, 66! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift. Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more. Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb- :1117-prom1: :1117-prom2: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49433581 United States 11/17/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ??? Quoting: TS66 49433581 The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A. The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities. And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares. If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ? Howdy, 66! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift. Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more. Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb- :1117-prom1: :1117-prom2: But there is Hugh [link to s343.photobucket.com] |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe this CME is heading for a head-on collision with Comet ISON. :11/17-CMEc2A: SOHO-SEEDS movie of CME: [link to spaceweather.gmu.edu] SDO-Solarsoft close-up movie shows an interesting interaction of regions '93 & '00 and an ejection: [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] Here is ISON's position (denoted by a violet rectangle): [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] Comet ISON is just about to pass Mercury! :11/17-ISON-enlil: Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 11/17/2013 12:04 PM |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ??? Quoting: TS66 49433581 The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A. The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities. And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares. If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ? Howdy, 66! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift. Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more. Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb- :1117-prom1: :1117-prom2: But there is Hugh [link to s343.photobucket.com] Hahaha, it wasn't there an hour ago! I really don't know what to make of it. Somebody email Dr. Strong at his YT channel....tell him it's a sign of imminent doom and he may respond, LOL. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28239113 Venezuela 11/17/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hugh, I dont agree with you, the dopplergram's pic (1st pic) is showing how strong are the magnetic fields produced by the bigest sunspot of AR11899, this sunspot always have had a strong magnetic field and homogeneous, but now is appearing with a weak polarity in its center. Do you believe too that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer over the dopplegram? Also, the HMI Magnetogram's pic (B&W) is showing a little point in its center with changed polarity (2nd pic). Then, I believe that this sunspot is decaying from its inner to outside. IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 49970192 United States 11/17/2013 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hugh, I dont agree with you, the dopplergram's pic (1st pic) is showing how strong are the magnetic fields produced by the bigest sunspot of AR11899, this sunspot always have had a strong magnetic field and homogeneous, but now is appearing with a weak polarity in its center. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 Do you believe too that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer over the dopplegram? Also, the HMI Magnetogram's pic (B&W) is showing a little point in its center with changed polarity (2nd pic). Then, I believe that this sunspot is decaying from its inner to outside. IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) Fair enough, Sir (or Madam), I don't agree with me, either, lol. I deduced that theory because there was no spot on the b&w when I initially checked it. Now that it's appeared on both magnetograms, I'm at a loss for a coherent explanation. I already said it seemed to be an effect of a weakening field, so we seem to agree on that. AR1899 is on its second rotation so it's about due to decay. Remember it left us as 1875 with an ISON-directed X-flare 2 weeks ago and was also active on the far side. The large filament above, and rooted-to, 1899 is beginning to loosen. If it lifts off violently, we may see renewed activity from the sunspot. Big Bear H-aloha movie: [link to halpha.nso.edu] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ??? Quoting: TS66 49433581 The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A. The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities. And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares. If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ? Howdy, 66! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift. Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more. Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb- :1117-prom1: :1117-prom2: But there is Hugh [link to s343.photobucket.com] Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, really great catch AC. My thought about it looking different today is that maybe the data is being altered. This IS a conspiracy site, its essential to at least consider this. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Loved the video, thanks for posting, never would have seen it if you didn't. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hugh, I dont agree with you, the dopplergram's pic (1st pic) is showing how strong are the magnetic fields produced by the bigest sunspot of AR11899, this sunspot always have had a strong magnetic field and homogeneous, but now is appearing with a weak polarity in its center. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113 Do you believe too that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer over the dopplegram? Also, the HMI Magnetogram's pic (B&W) is showing a little point in its center with changed polarity (2nd pic). Then, I believe that this sunspot is decaying from its inner to outside. IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] ) Fair enough, Sir (or Madam), I don't agree with me, either, lol. I deduced that theory because there was no spot on the b&w when I initially checked it. Now that it's appeared on both magnetograms, I'm at a loss for a coherent explanation. I already said it seemed to be an effect of a weakening field, so we seem to agree on that. AR1899 is on its second rotation so it's about due to decay. Remember it left us as 1875 with an ISON-directed X-flare 2 weeks ago and was also active on the far side. The large filament above, and rooted-to, 1899 is beginning to loosen. If it lifts off violently, we may see renewed activity from the sunspot. Big Bear H-aloha movie: [link to halpha.nso.edu] Wonderful discussion folks. This is excellent discourse at its best. Now TS, you're input was great too. We need Nin's mind on this too. My intuitive two cents adds something is decaying away at (reducing) the sun's nuclear action, I saw somewhere that there is an iron cloud that sun is passing through. That spot also looked like a melanoma skin cancer lesion....cancer hmmmm. I think and EU hunch is needed too, but I don't have one at the moment. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 11/17/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe this CME is heading for a head-on collision with Comet ISON. Quoting: Hugh M Eye :11/17-CMEc2A: SOHO-SEEDS movie of CME: [link to spaceweather.gmu.edu] SDO-Solarsoft close-up movie shows an interesting interaction of regions '93 & '00 and an ejection: [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] Here is ISON's position (denoted by a violet rectangle): [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] Comet ISON is just about to pass Mercury! :11/17-ISON-enlil: It is suspected that Ison may be breaking in two. This would have been immediately preceeding the CME? Thread: ISON BREAKS IN TWO PARTS!!!! Last Edited by Isis One on 11/17/2013 02:57 PM Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |