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Larse User ID: 1294262 United States 04/09/2011 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | April 9, 5:30 PM MST 0.19 uSv/hr outside 112% (0.17 is normal) EcoTest MKC-05 NOTE: I will be discontinuing active updates on this thread on Monday April 11, 2011. If I measure anything above normal after Monday, I will return to this site / thread and post a warning. Thank you to the station operators whom have participated, and I encourage you to start a new monitoring thread at GLP should you so choose. Quoting: ProgrammerMany thanks for starting this interesting thread! I guess it is good that we did not have as much excitement as expected :) Since this thread is linked I will try to report here first. I am not real sure how the site here works but I think the thread will last as long as it gets a post now and then. If anyone starts a new thread be sure to post the link here and I will follow. Last Edited by Larse on 04/09/2011 07:44 PM |
Nuke Skywalker User ID: 1043959 United States 04/09/2011 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOTE: ... If I measure anything above normal after Monday, I will return to this site / thread and post a warning. Thank you to the station operators whom have participated, and I encourage you to start a new monitoring thread at GLP should you so choose. Quoting: ProgrammerI encourage you to keep a sharp eye on the news and if anything comes down at Fukushima that might cause significant atmospheric discharge, resume updates. Thanks for your hard work!!! |
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SouthernLight User ID: 1309062 United States 04/10/2011 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks to you, Programmer, and all contributing! This awesomely sensible thread did worlds to calm my qualms... Now, if I only hadn't seen that link to a Nippon site (and failed to bookmark it!) showing a Massive increase in radiation at Fukushima #1 since the 7th! Will periodically check back for updates... again, thanks to all of you! We know more than we know and understand less than we think. |
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Nuke Skywalker User ID: 1043959 United States 04/10/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wind = calm temp = 48°F avg = 15.7 CPM std = 1.6 CPM Some analysis of my data collected over the past ~4 weeks continues to suggest that the data from 3/16-3/17 is statistically different from the baseline. A "t-test" indicates a 98+% probability that the data from those days does not match the rest. Of course at the time I didn't have sufficient baseline data to know that those days were out of whack. If I recall, those were also the days that Programmer saw significant increases at Yellowstone. I suspect that we actually tracked an anomaly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1294262 United States 04/10/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Phoenix, Arizona - Last Reading 4/10/11 0845 hrs 14 CPM (Previously 18 CPM) Quoting: Nuke Skywalkerwind = calm temp = 48°F avg = 15.7 CPM std = 1.6 CPM Some analysis of my data collected over the past ~4 weeks continues to suggest that the data from 3/16-3/17 is statistically different from the baseline. A "t-test" indicates a 98+% probability that the data from those days does not match the rest. Of course at the time I didn't have sufficient baseline data to know that those days were out of whack. If I recall, those were also the days that Programmer saw significant increases at Yellowstone. I suspect that we actually tracked an anomaly. I definitely say something on March 24th too in fort Collins: Thread: ****** GLP RADIATION REPORTING CENTER ****** (Page 24) "8:57 PM It is varying between 0.28 and 0.33 outside! Weeeee!!!" But since then with the alarm set at 25 uSv/h practically nothing at all... |
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emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1161728 United States 04/11/2011 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Location: near Cheyenne, Wyoming Elevation: 6200 feet Instruments: Ecotest MKS-05 Terra-P dosimeter radiometer Method: Open Air, Swipe / 3 minutes 1. Date/Time: 04/10/11 @ 20:00 hrs MST CPM= 13 (.13 uSv/h) 1. Cheyenne, WY-13 CPM 04/10/11 @13:00 hrs MST Something really weird happened about 20 minutes after I took that reading. My alarm went off, and for a few seconds I was reading .52 uSV/h. Then over the next 15-20 seconds it went back down to .13 which has been the baseline today. I have no explanation what-so-ever for this event, but I can tell you that it freaked me out a bit. Everything seems fine now. I didn't even know that this unit had an alarm until tonight. Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Nuke Skywalker User ID: 1043959 United States 04/11/2011 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My alarm went off, and for a few seconds I was reading .52 uSV/h. Then over the next 15-20 seconds it went back down to .13 which has been the baseline today. Quoting: emerald eyeI have no explanation what-so-ever for this event, but I can tell you that it freaked me out a bit. Have you ever walked around your house with the Geiger counter just to see what radio sources you have laying about? Old Fiesta Ware™, high-index glass items, radium painted antique collectibles, etc. Might be entertaining if you get bored. |
emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 04/11/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My alarm went off, and for a few seconds I was reading .52 uSV/h. Then over the next 15-20 seconds it went back down to .13 which has been the baseline today. Quoting: emerald eyeI have no explanation what-so-ever for this event, but I can tell you that it freaked me out a bit. Have you ever walked around your house with the Geiger counter just to see what radio sources you have laying about? Old Fiesta Ware™, high-index glass items, radium painted antique collectibles, etc. Might be entertaining if you get bored. I don’t own any fiesta ware, and the detector was in the room on the west end of my house where it always sits unless I take it outside. I have walked around the house with it before and nothing of significance was recorded. In fact the readings indoors have always been a bit lower than outdoors. The window was also open when this event occurred, which is another reason I freaked out a bit. Nothing has happened since then though. Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Nuke Skywalker User ID: 1043959 United States 04/12/2011 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t own any fiesta ware, and the detector was in the room on the west end of my house where it always sits unless I take it outside. Quoting: emerald eyeI have walked around the house with it before and nothing of significance was recorded. In fact the readings indoors have always been a bit lower than outdoors. The window was also open when this event occurred, which is another reason I freaked out a bit. Nothing has happened since then though. Probably just another nuisance UFO cruising by with it's damn anti-grav unit on. Just try to ignore them. I doubt your city council will pass an ordinance, and it would be difficult to enforce in any event. |
Programmer (OP) User ID: 1105850 United States 04/12/2011 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Driggs went into alarm lock 3 times tonight. I put the stream back on the air. I won't be servicing this thread anymore, but I felt it important to see if any other reporters are getting high readings. I thought maybe driggs was malfunctioning but it checked out fine. I took the instrument and went for a 100+ mile road trip tonight taking 30 minute surveys at 4 different locations around Idaho and Montana. Fast response meter setting gives us temporal resolution and was pushing 400+ CPM and as I said, locked alarm 3 times so far. The mobile surveys were done in locations outside of urban areas and away from likely sources of signal interference. The breadth of the data collected also indicated that it's not normal background floor. Each survey was concluded with me closing the beta window and confirming that little (~10 CPM) was actual Gamma emissions. If you have high readings / alarm conditions, get your equipment on-air to ustream if possible and we can cross-promote the live feeds. Feel free to post here or in a new thread, but I still will not be maintaining this thread here, other than to look for correlating reports to confirm my readings. For the first time in 30+ pages of posts, I am admitting that I am taking personal precautions for this newly measured data. Several locations were averaging 250-400 CPM and it appeared that the wind did in fact play a small but notable role. Good luck friends. Be well, and be safe. I will lurk in the ustream channel but won't always be there to chat, so it will be hit or miss. If you are an asshat in the ustream chat, you'll be banned without warning. |
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Nuke Skywalker User ID: 1043959 United States 04/12/2011 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Phoenix, Arizona - Last Reading 4/12/11 0900 hrs 17 CPM (Previously 14 CPM) wind = E 7 Mi/h temp = 63°F avg = 15.7 CPM std = 1.6 CPM Quite normal here. ... Quoting: ProgrammerSeveral locations were averaging 250-400 CPM and it appeared that the wind did in fact play a small but notable role. ... The transport mechanism from Asia to the US is somewhere between 'Complex' and 'Chaotic', in the technical sense of the words. For one to get some fallout in one's backyard a whole lot of things have to work out just right. * There has to be a significant amount of airborne particulate matter ejected from the source – * at the same time as there is an unstable, convective atmosphere to loft that matter to high altitude – * and then the upper-level winds have to more-or-less randomly carry it over your backyard, where – * there have to be the right conditions for the matter to drop out of suspension. I guess right now it's a very random process. Last Edited by Nuke Skywalker on 04/12/2011 12:14 PM |
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gd2balive User ID: 1309296 United States 04/12/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Portland,OREGON radnet system is not reporting the Beta Counts Per Minute only the dates. The data is not being reported at all. Seems to elude to only one purpose, what you don't know you cannot report on. That itself is concerning. As for me I am not concerned for my safety because the HOLY of HOLIES sends his comforter to protect us all,whom know the ABBA FATHER. It's good to be ALIVE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 04/12/2011 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Driggs went into alarm lock 3 times tonight. I put the stream back on the air. I won't be servicing this thread anymore, but I felt it important to see if any other reporters are getting high readings. I thought maybe driggs was malfunctioning but it checked out fine. Quoting: ProgrammerI took the instrument and went for a 100+ mile road trip tonight taking 30 minute surveys at 4 different locations around Idaho and Montana. Fast response meter setting gives us temporal resolution and was pushing 400+ CPM and as I said, locked alarm 3 times so far. The mobile surveys were done in locations outside of urban areas and away from likely sources of signal interference. The breadth of the data collected also indicated that it's not normal background floor. Each survey was concluded with me closing the beta window and confirming that little (~10 CPM) was actual Gamma emissions. If you have high readings / alarm conditions, get your equipment on-air to ustream if possible and we can cross-promote the live feeds. Feel free to post here or in a new thread, but I still will not be maintaining this thread here, other than to look for correlating reports to confirm my readings. For the first time in 30+ pages of posts, I am admitting that I am taking personal precautions for this newly measured data. Several locations were averaging 250-400 CPM and it appeared that the wind did in fact play a small but notable role. Good luck friends. Be well, and be safe. I will lurk in the ustream channel but won't always be there to chat, so it will be hit or miss. If you are an asshat in the ustream chat, you'll be banned without warning. I for one really do thank you for all the work you've done in posting the info you have, taking the readings and reporting back... this does so the promise of the internet, that if the Integrity Quient of 90% or more of the human population were higher (or at least those posting on GLP) we could really begin to get a handle on many many things that are going on on this planet. Will be looking for you on your UStream channel. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1302949 United States 04/12/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Information: Fixed Monitor Location: AZ: YUMA Measurement Start Date/Time: 04/12/2011 05:59:45 PM Measurement End Date/Time: 04/12/2011 06:59:53 PM Beta Gross Count Rate (CPM): 121 Gamma Energy Range 2 Gross(CPM): 2755 Gamma Energy Range 3 Gross(CPM): 1706 Gamma Energy Range 4 Gross(CPM): 478 Gamma Energy Range 5 Gross(CPM): 276 Gamma Energy Range 6 Gross(CPM): 153 Gamma Energy Range 7 Gross(CPM): 180 Gamma Energy Range 8 Gross(CPM): 116 Gamma Energy Range 9 Gross(CPM): 42 Gamma Energy Range 10 Gross(CPM): 54 |
Larse User ID: 1294262 United States 04/12/2011 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fort Collins, Colorado, USA (5000 feet) April 12, 6:50 PM MST 0.17 uSv/hr outside (0.17 is normal) EcoTest MKC-05 Something really weird happened about 20 minutes after I took that reading. My alarm went off, and for a few seconds I was reading .52 uSV/h. Quoting: emerald eyeThen over the next 15-20 seconds it went back down to .13 which has been the baseline today. I have no explanation what-so-ever for this event, but I can tell you that it freaked me out a bit. Everything seems fine now. I didn't even know that this unit had an alarm until tonight. My Teppa-n (Russian version but just like yours) does that too a few times a year. Suddenly it goes high and alarms and then usually goes into a rest mode and it goes right back down to normal. I am not sure if it gets hit by real radiation from space, some big atomic particle nearby splits, or if the aliens are just taking a flash picture :D It might also be some weird quirk in the unit's software or detector. But I would call that "normal" whatever it is so don't worry. If it stays high for an hour then worry but those sudden short bursts happen to mine here too. I knew of an older detector unit that did that too but that was 30 years ago before they had software. I Googled a bit and Gamma-Ray-Bursts seem like a possibility: [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.springerlink.com] [link to www.riken.go.jp] "...On July 2, 1967, while monitoring nuclear weapons testing, the U.S. satellite Vela suddenly detected intense gamma rays. This finding must have caused its observers some alarm, since the time was the era of the cold war between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. However, the source of the gamma rays did not lie on the Earth, but in outer space. "This was the first observation of a gamma-ray burst," explained Dr. Makishima...." This has happened to me long before the Fucushima thing so it is not that. Have you ever walked around your house with the Geiger counter just to see what radio sources you have laying about? Old Fiesta Ware™, high-index glass items, radium painted antique collectibles, etc. Might be entertaining if you get bored. Quoting: Nuke SkywalkerI have a new Oak table and the wood is about 4 uSv/h high. The smoke detectors are nice for testing the monitor. A hepa air filter was also oddly quite high at 30 uSv/h but was not operated until recently so it must have inhailed something in the past. If you are careful you can see small added radiation from table salt, Potassium Iodide tablets :), and bananas. But most things are pretty dead as far as radiation goes. Apparently Granite counter tops might be a little hot too in some cases. I saw a UTube of some guy walking around a cemmatary testing tomb stones and finding many were a tiny bit hot. Here is a lady in Germany that really like to play with radiation things! Lots of fascinating videos from her! [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by Larse on 04/12/2011 09:48 PM |
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Larse User ID: 1294262 United States 04/12/2011 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I don't mean to go OT... But for those of use left out of the radioactive rain, maybe this is a good time to bone up on our radiation background knowledge :D Here is an intersting collection of tubes... [link to www.youtube.com] She is a little stressed, but she knows a lot of shit!! The scintillation detectors seem to be super cool!! [link to www.youtube.com] This is pretty interesting. She does "know things" and you can "feel" the confusion... :( "Media = Bullshit" :D ;D [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Those sort of explains how the meters with all the odd gamma levels try to find out exactly what type of contamination you are dealing with. In the 1960's, there was no time for BSing :D Here is a true expert that will really depress you with his videos and vast knowledge: [link to fairewinds.com] You can just feel is "crushing" as he realizes it is just getting worse and worse as time and info goes on... View the vids from bottom to top... Last Edited by Larse on 04/12/2011 11:59 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331542 United States 04/15/2011 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, what a gem of a thread! I for one am so pleased to see all those low numbers out there! Phew! For the few higher ones, wonder what's the reason for those locations? Please keep em coming, big or small :) Since this only detects air (right?) can you get a sense of any rain-related spikes? And one more question just for kicks...what kind of equipment do you need to actually pick up a type of isotope? |