Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!

Then you've actually read the Phoenix Journals......so as to be able to pass judgment upon them?



So what part of the CIA are YOU in, that would enable YOU to be such an authority on this?


Really? What people???


You mean like the Bible?

Look lady

Im not here to prove any points, however i have been educated on these things and hate to see people get the wrong ideas about something so important

The new age movement is a cia movement

they have sleepers who so call channel, these people will help rain in what they call the devils messiah

do you not know? have you not heard op, or are you just testing the waters here?

These programs that promote this new age agendas came out of nsa cia darpa projects

And yes people got out of these sleeper programs and i know one of these people

the agencys are also connected to what you may call aliens or multi-dimensional beings

they are really the ones calling the shots for the bad guys

First off: I am NOT a "lady".........how undiscerning does one have to be to think that the name "Wayne" is a female name? lol

Secondly: If you are going to call the Phoenix Journals a "new age" concoction, or a CIA agenda, then you are going to have to offer some evidence..........otherwise, you are just spouting nonsense, that you have no backup for!!!

Now yes, the CIA is involved in discrediting CONTACT with our Higher Friends........but you cannot automatically assume that ALL Space Brothers are here to deceive you!!! Learn to discern the difference........it would appear that you need some practice in this area(since you cannot even get my gender correct)!!! :(

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 12:14 PM

Calm down lady..

:)

........thanks, I needed that, lol........

lol, hows it goin? Whats new?

I've been thinking about "patience" lately: Why is Patience supposed to be a good thing?

The Army always trained me in "hurry up and wait" theology.........now can THAT be good?

I think I'll start a thread on this subject.......maybe somebody out there can explain it to me! lol

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 12:28 PM

Well, patience keeps me from slapping idiots sometimes....

LOL........no, I think THAT'S your compassion Evan....? Your a good man(when you're asleep anyways....) ;)

Some say I am still "asleep"....lol

That flashed me back to the day Commander Hatonn once said to me: "Time to wake up little sleepy head"! lol

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 01:17 PM

Who is "commander Hatonn"?

Luke 21:19



:)

who spoke to you?

what is his real name? do you even know?

op, may be part of nsa program and not now know it

Maybe we can help set him/her free

One of the many names Heavenly Father goes by.....:)

And just how do you intend to "set me free", when you can't even seem to figure out which gender I am? LOL

Oh great, now I have to define Soul in order to figure out Patience?

hey Wayne!
Actually Luke 21:9-18 will define both.

Take care



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If this is your way of trying to get me to read scripture, its working! lol

However, I didn't see anything in there about "patience" or "soul"......are you sure you got the right verses?

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 01:40 PM

Ok Obe, let me run a theory by you, tell me what you think.

It is hard for me sometimes to put things into words, I will do my best.

Do you think our consciousness can create a reality for us?
I was thinking when we die, whatever we "believe" is what will happen and where we will go. If I am a Christian and believe in heaven and hell, and I die with what in my heart is a "good" soul, I go to heaven. It is a heavenin which my consciousness created. Or if I have christian beliefs and in my heart I condemn myself and feel unworthy, then I will go to a hell that my consciousness has created for myself.

When a Muslim dies they will go to the heaven that their consciousness has created for them. And so on and so on.

So basically we create our own destiny by our beliefs. I hope I explained this well enough.

the truth seems really serious about this, should i be scared of you new age type guys?

Yes- those verses lead up to and define Luke 21:19

( sorry to make you look them up but some "Christians" have joined together and made it difficult to post -lol)


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Yes, in many cases, this is exactly what happens.......however, you must keep in mind; that only those who are 'One with the Light' can truly create, all others can only be content to manipulate that which is already created....

So in many cases, Father may override certain choices for lack of understanding(remember Father measures the intent of the heart over actions sometimes)......notice I didn't say "Judges", but "Measures".

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 01:57 PM

So in your beliefs are we punished for our bad deeds here, in the afterlife? If so what is the punishment?

No, we are NEVER punished.......but we do punish ourselves sometimes(as you have already projected).....

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 02:34 PM

I have a problem with that. There needs to be some sort of cosmic justice. If someone is a murderer or rapist and they don't get caught in this life, they need to be punished in the afterlife

What if I told you that YOU were a murderer in your past life? Would you still feel like you had escaped judgment(balanced behavior)?

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 02:51 PM

What do you mean would I feel like I escaped justice?

Well at some point there needs to be a return to "Balanced" behavior(the point at which people finally learn).......doesn't there?

.......And how can you do that, if you are continually punishing yourself(or expecting some God to do it to you)?

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/14/2011 02:55 PM

I just think it would be sad to think the evil in this world never get punished...