World at War, Official 2012 Thread for Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, India, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

It is not a hunch. Fact is if Israel does not strike by January 28, 2012 it may be too late to do so after that. Barak and Bibi know this, but noone wants war and they are trying to find an easy button, but there is not one. Folks, many do not realize it, but this decision is to be made now. The coming days will be tremedndously watched by myself and others and if a sense one way or another is dtermined I will try to let you know.

Will be watching MM....and praying

Spiritually, Prayer is always good. I have prayed for discernment and again, I was to be ready and prepped by January 20 and we are past that date.
In real world politics, there is no doubt Obama's intelligence and military team are staying up late this week for several reasons.

the facilities are buried too deep

its too late....Israel is just barking

It has been too late to be 100% effective for sometime. At the same time, never say never.

If you are right op, we are pretty much facing the end of western civilization

We are at a pivotal point in this latest Iranian Nukes chapter. What we have are two divergent attitudes over what shall be done to stop Iran if anything. The US and Europe are content on giving Iran another 5 months to sit at the table and negotiate nothing in order to buy time for the sake of distaste of the alternative. That other alternative is what Israel is very possible to swallow in order to secure herself from facing a nuclear threat from Iran, an attack. The Israeli attitude is considered the same as the Saudis and other Gulf states.

The pivotal point is whether Israel and perhaps joint with other Gulf states is willing to go it alone without US help or leaving this burden entirely to the West. Each month that Iran is allowed to move forward is another month that Iran has hidden more of its new equipment in various underground labryths where she feels confident cannot be touched by bombs. This is further time for Iran to develop what she wants of warheads to be used against the enemies of the West breathing down her neck. This precious time is evolving into saving grace for the Iranian nuclear program as the percent of the program destroyed by enemy attack lessens with each week that is bought through lack of action. Even now, if Israel waits until mid-February Iran will have bought 20% more protection of survival rate fo her program sources say. Waiting until July is sufficient time for Iran to have left all of its old machines in place but at th same time install duplicates in numbers in underground locations, some not known by the West.

The next 48 hours are crucial for Bibi and Barak and Israel’s military leaders. They must choose between a strike now, or continuing on the same path for another month. Right now, the plan is in place and is to be executed. It is now up to Israeli leaders as to whether to forego that action again as happened last month or proceed with the bitter pill with the hope to have destroyed sufficient weapons program sites to justify the inevitable counter-attack and all of its fore-shadowed destruction that would be faced by Israel and the West. Again, is it worth it to act now or wait for that bright glow in the Tel Aviv summer sky for which Israel had failed to respond.

Still this moment, the attack plan is a go, but as we know too well, Israel is a small fish with little bite and the US is the shark that could accomplish all goals, but the shark has chosen to eat algae verses take on Iran and the nerves of Israel’s leadership are almost shot as they try to convince themselves that what they are to do is the right path.

G-D be with us all.

Prosor: Iran's nuclear bomb 'single greatest threat to security of world'

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
Israel's Ambassador to the United Nations, Ron Prosor, spoke in front of the Security Council, saying: " Never has it been so clear that Iran is seeking to build a nuclear weapon. This is the single greatest threat to the security of the entire world.


"Now is the time to act. Tomorrow is too late. The stakes are too high. The price of inaction is too great." (Yitzhak Benhorin, Washington)

MM...does the strike plan just using conventional loadouts or is there a chane that low yield tactical nukes may be used on the hardened hard to reach bunkers that part of the program has been hidden into?

We have over 9000 Us Boots on the Ground in Isreal

that came a couple weeks ago for the "military exercise"

the cash is not going to keep them there for nothing

THE DEPLOYMENT COSTS MILLIONS


ACTIONS MUST BE COMING ?

EMP

IS NUMBER ONE CHOICE

based on what knowledge?

Negative on the low yield nukes, too big of chance of far worse repercussions.

First, are they really there?

Second, if they are really there, you are right. But then it could still be a combined attack for which I know Obamah has no will for.

Thanks MM...I figured it wouldn't be considered..but I had to ask cuz well..ya just never know. So basically I should keep the coffee pot going for the next couple of days cuz unless you hear otherwise...it's a go

A type of emp not seen before is pretty accurate.

. . . .

They are still there for sure

Right now each night I expect to wake up to news of great importance. . .

We can sigh some type of relief Saturday for the then short-term but the mix only gets worse-off from there as the chances an attack would succeed each month disminishes in return considerably.

Being a Debbie Downer, I am pessimistic of what I have obtained as information on this for the past several weeks as I cannot believe it until I see it but I am still going out on a limb with this one until we get through this short window of opportunity.

Can you get some true informaiton on that?

[link to www.arabtimesonline.com]
15000 US troops in Kuwait

Same here on the Debbie Downer count...but if it does happen...I'm sure as hell not sleeping anytime soon...gonna get a coffee IV drip

This would be in addition to the 14,000 rotating troops usually in Kuwait.

I still do not trust that the 9000 US troops are in Israel.

that makes two of us

Netanyahu: World Silent on Threats to Destroy IsraelPrime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu accused the world of remaining silent in the face of Iranian threats to destroy Israel.
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

well...he's right...I sure as hell don't hear condemnation of Hizzbullah or the the various factions in Gaza and West bank, but everyone is quick to yammer whenever Israel does something to defend itself.

Godzilla, as most certainly always, I agree with you on this.

If I was planning on bombing the hell out of another nation-satte; I would start with a flurry of diplomatic assaults to ensure the World has had an opportunity to consider what is soon to come. OBVIOUSLY, ISRAEL IS DOING SO RIGHT NOW. Some say it is only to push for more economic sanctions as there is time, other say NO MORE TIME.

Minister: Iran Has a 'Destroy Israel Program'
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Minister of Public Diplomacy Yuli Edelstein says calling Iran's drive for a nuclear bomb a 'nuclear program' is a misnomer.