Serpent Seed Theory *Christians Only*

Most homosexuals are worth more than you are m8

everything the fallen angels brought us was intended for corruption ultimately. it might be ok here and there, but will end up as a tool for destruction.

examples of this alien/angel techologoy:

astrology
divination
theater
cosmetics
dying fabrics in bright colors - (high fashion)
art of war
metalurgy and weapons making
pharmacology

You forgot internet and drawings

And music and electricity

re: music

it was a specific type of music
the kind that instills feelings of lust, etc.

And of course the race that brags about being such good dancers and singers are obviously the blacks. Cause they the one's who be having some rhythm!!!

Sex and lust are fertility, death and pain are celibacy.
We all get born out of sex, and we all die.
Sounds like you have a case of death God worship.
Thats why Religion must die and spirituality must be born again.

did you read the link provided to "theopenscroll" ? it's very compelling.......not easily dismissed.

Nowhere I repeat Nowhere in the Bible Does Satan get it on with Adam +/or/& Eve
(that doesn't mean he didn't totally %$#@ their lives up he did & everyone else on the planet!)

Nor was Adam a Hebrew the Israelis sprung up 2 thousand years later (roughly)

I thing Opie has Hang ups on White People, Jewish people and Homosexual's

The Serpent seed is a distraction!

hahaha
that type of lust has nothing to do with attraction, sex and procreation.

You might mean a adrenalin addiction quite widespread.
But yea love is rare if all things are speeded up.
It takes time

Where did i say that?


I agree

I agree but will qualify to say that He will come when He is asked to and truly desired. And is desired for WHO He is.....not our perceived *picture* of him.

I agree! Shalom!

not sure i understand this

ya know... on the subject of twins. there is something really special about it. wonder if that's why the nazis did all those weird genetic experiments on twins.

Who inspired Paul?
Wasn't it the Holy Spirit?
Who is the Holy Spirit?
Isn't the Holy Spirit a dispensation of GOD?

GBU my friend, may GOD/JESUS/THE HOLY SPIRIT (these 3 are the 3 dispensations of one and the same GOD) open your eyes

He was "GOD ABOVE US" in His Fatherhood dispensation; "GOD WITH US" in His Sonship dispensation; and now "GOD IN US" in the Holy Spirit dispensation. Jesus said, " I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, the Beginning and the Ending, saith the Lord, Which IS, WHICH WAS, and WHICH IS TO COME, THE ALMIGHTY" (Rev.1:8) - ONE GOD in three dispensations.

Don't need to, I"ve researched this stuff a year ago, and found it lacking.

I'd rather put my time into studying something of value. I"m reading the book of Daniel now. That's worth the time.

Again - as I said....if you believe that scripture is the word of God, then you and I have no table to meet at.
I'm really not interested in playing games and trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking. I think that you and I are coming from two completely different schools.

Who is Jesus? He is the Light which lightens all men who are born into the world. He is the Christ - in me - the hope of glory.

Jesus is my Teacher. And, as He said....His sheep know His voice.



Yes - the kingdom is within. To enter the kingdom, one must go within. In the name of Jesus Christ. And then listen....listen....listen - and obey what you hear.

The sheep follow the voice of the Shepherd.



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How can I know you follow the same "Jesus" that I do? He is not subjective, you know. And your teaching espouses that He is.

If you don't mind, I'd like to share this link with you. I hope you read through it....i believe it will change how you look at Him, and how you view His eternal Word.

If it does not, then I have to believe there some serious forces at work over you and it then becomes a matter between you and the Most High Elohim...


[link to www.jhshumaker.info]


Dear Shamar - I have a link to share with you....

[link to hallvworthington.com]

That's cool! If you believe you have it all figured out, that's great! Personally, I don't believe there is a person on the planet that has it all figured out accurately, but that's just me.

I only mentioned the article because it presents VERY compelling evidence in support of the theory. It would be much more beneficial to all though, if someone disagreed with it to actually pull from it, and point out exactly WHY they disagreed with it.

The point is, is that there are TWO seeds. One of YHWH, and one of ha satan. How those seeds BECOME and how they manifest is the question. Is it purely spiritual? Is it through DNA? Is it both. I tend to think it is both.

Anyway, as I said before, I am not dogmatic on the matter of the "serpent seed theory". Actually the other day I read another perspective that was just as as interesting. And that is of the two nations that came from Rebekah's womb. The Edomites and the Israelites....two nations that have been at war since the beginning - in the womb, and remain so to this day.

Dear Shamar - I have a link to share with you....

[link to hallvworthington.com]


Thank you .... I will take a look. What did you think of the link I shared with you?

Thank you .... I will take a look. What did you think of the link I shared with you?


Still working through it.....

Still working through it.....


I will get back on yours later this evening....Shalom!!

Who indeed inspired paul/shaul? Which deity do you worship? Who is "god"?

"But you are those who forsake the Lord,
Who forget My holy mountain,
Who prepare a table for Gad,
And who furnish a drink offering for Meni" (Isaiah 65:11, NKJV)

"Gd" is first mentioned in Genesis 30:11 when "Leah said, "A troop comes!" So she called his name Gad" (KJV), as the traditional translation has it. Whilst the Authorised Version has Gad meaning "troop" the more modern NIV renders the Genesis passage, "Leah said, "What good fortune!" So she named him Gad" (cf. NRSV etc). Gad, the proper name of a person and tribe, occurs some 70 times (Strong's #1410 - all the Strong's reference numbers are for Hebrew or "H").

The next and apparently only other mention of the Hebrew word GÓd or gâdh (Strong's #1409), as distinct from the patriarch and tribe, is in Isaiah 65:11 where it is unlikely to be referring to Jacob’s son. A number of translations offer differing alternatives such as "troop" or "fortune", the Greek Old Testament Septuagint goes so far as to render it by daimoni/daimoni as "devil, demon" (Strong's #1142) and the Aramaic Targum by "idols":

"prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number" (KJV)

"prepare a table for Fortune, and that offer mingled wine in full measure unto Destiny" (JPS)

"prepare a table for the devil (daimoni), and fill up the drink-offering to Fortune" (LXX)

It has even been noted that the English word "god" may derive from gâdh that refers the English "god" back to a Canaanite deity. It is pointed out here and elsewhere (e.g., [link to www.jeramyt.org] [link to www.search-the-scriptures.org] [link to members.cox.net] that the original Hebrew of gâdh would have been simply "GD" without vowels and that even when the "â" vowel was added it could be pronounced "o" as well, suggesting that the word could stand for "god".
Thus, these sites suggest that we should avoid calling God "god" as it associates him with a pagan deity, much as calling him "lord", the term Ba`al (Strong's #1168), does (see Hosea 2:16-17). It should be noted that there are several words for Lord in Hebrew and Adonai "my Lord" (Strong's #136) is not a pagan deity. Some of these sites attempt to teach a theology of only calling God YHVH, a bit like Jehovah Witnesses with Jehovah which should be avoided as well but that's another discussion.

Various sources refer Gad back to either a Babylonian, Canaanite, or Syrian, deity. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The medieval Jewish commentator Kimchi wrote that Gad was used by the Arabs to refer to the Roman Jupiter and Greek Zeus. Jupiter was the largest planet and father of the gods. He is almost akin to the sun god just as Meni/Mani may refer to the moon god, since the moon was used for numbering (see the KJV use of "number" in the translation of Isaiah 65:11 above) the months. Coincidentally, it was Gad the prophet who was sent to David to denounce him for having "numbered" the people (2 Samuel 24:10-13).

According to Joshua 11:17; 12:7; 13:5 there is even a city named after this deity "Baal Gad in the Valley of Lebanon below Mount Hermon".

According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, (p.545), Gad was known to the jewish people of the Talmudic era:

"Gad, the god of fortune, is frequently invoked in Talmudic (magic) formulas of good will and wishes; for instance, in Shab. 67b ("Gad eno ella leshon 'abodat kokabim"; comp. Targ. Pseudo-Jonathan to Gen. xx. 10, 11). The name is often synonymous with "luck" (Yer. Ned. iv. 38d; Yer. Shab. xvi. 15d). Gad is the patron saint of a locality, a mountain (Hul. 40a), of an idol (Gen. R. lxiv.), a house, or the world (Gen. R. lxxi.). Hence "luck" may also be bad (Eccl. R. vii. 26). A couch or bed for this god of fortune is referred to in Ned. 56a".

In sum, that the word "god" derives from Gad is disputable but plausible. Online etymology dictionaries such as [link to www.etymonline.com] suggest a derivation from a verb "to our out a libation" as in the drink offering in the verse above. So perhaps "god" is a pagan word for "the Creator" of the Scriptures, hence the importance of searching out the Scriptures. Do you know WHO you are worshipping?

"Again - as I said....if you believe that scripture is the word of God, then you and I have no table to meet at."

Why do we keep seeing this comment? This is not only off subject for this thread, but is a very decisive statement. Final. Closed minded. Are we too be that way? We all know that "In the Beginning... The Word was God... The Word was with God".
And the Word was made flesh.

You forget that many of us hear the Word through our scripture so when we say that scripture is the Word of God you make it a line drawn in the sand and "there's nothing further to discuss". Perhaps a gentle correction to "scriptures are the inspired Word of God" or "Jesus is the Word of God" so "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God" really means that Faith comes by hearing and hearing by Jesus. Or how about "The Word of God (Jesus) brings the Scriptures to life, not the other way around."?

For us the Word is all around us through God who teaches us. Everytime my mind wonders to a passage of scripture as I walk down the road, I know that the Word is with me. Jesus is with me.

Anybody can open scripture and start to read, but does this mean that they will know God? Sadly no because it is He that teaches. "" You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life."

By stating that "there is no table to meet at" is not too engaging, helpful or inclusive. I, for one, will get out of the habit and stick with "scripture is the inspired word of God" instead of "scripture is the word".

The reason for my statement to the other poster was to give reason why we should not enter into discussion if we are at odds on the subject.....for the purposes of avoiding contention. I find that when two ideas are so opposed between people, it is better to not discuss at all, then to try and hold a spitting contest.

Someone just PM'd me regarding this thread....I'm restricted from sending replies...

Suffice to say, "I dig."

Last Edited by Dried Up Hag on 01/13/2012 10:48 AM