FACT: Kundalini, Reiki is a Demon! Don't Be Deceived!

Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.

that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something

You are speaking about Lisa.....for once I agree with you.

:jly9:

Did Lisa call you in for back-up. She started the fire.
Yea, 19 pages of 98% tell me that there not many in agreement with your Christian beliefs. As far as reading the thread, she attacked 3 practices that I do, & called them demonic.....a pretty broad statement, I'd say....insulting millions of people around the world at the same time. This is sheer ignorance. So of course I had to respond to put the facts straight. Oh why don't you Christians take your preaching to some other forum. That would be helpful.

You know I wasn't speaking about Lisa,
you just don't want to give up do you(said with a smile)?

Here, maybe I can soften your heart with a flower:
:flkr:

Hi KoFFee. It's so very hard for some people to let go. I wonder why that is?

98% you say?



Matthew 7:13-14

King James Version (KJV)


"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:"

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

i guess you didn't get the memo about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion?

hey... guess what? we don't agree and THAT'S OKAY. if you are taking someone's personal belief and getting all over offended, then you need to grow up a bit.

Lisa didn't call me in for back up. you have no idea who i am or what i believe. i don't always agree with Lisa, and she doesn't always agree with me. But, she is my sister in Christ and I back her bravado in attempting to help people. Her heart is walking in love. whether you can see that or not is beside the point. she honestly is concerned and at least has the courage to go out on a limb, in a place that hates God, and bring the Word to the unbelieving masses.

hey man, if you wanna channel demons and call it good, that is your option. you dont even have to agree with me, and i will still be a content and peaceful person solidly grounded in my own belief set.

the beauty of the world is you are entitled to believe and defend whatever you want. so is OP.

you are acting in precisely the way you are accusing OP.

Odd, in all my out of body experience i never met kundlini. I however met an angel and perhaps god. Also met myself the soul part, an amazing being of love.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

King James Version (KJV)


"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ."

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

I can't believe I wasted all my time listening to that crap and all they said was meditation is the devil, "trust me". They are misunderstanding souls or worse. But trust me, God fits in my book. lol I'm so sick of zealots and their cults.

Unless I missed it Lisa you failed to discuss any of the things I mentioned here.

I'll let people draw their own conclusions.

BUT if the Bible, faith and belief in the book is the source of all people's GODly knowledge then I'm afraid people are in for some big surprises.

Back to the book everyone... I see most of you really know it anyway, even though you would claimthat you do...lol


Sad but true!

If it was demonic the Pope and Hollywood would be pushing it. If they doing banking and fuck children they must be good right? But healing, self reflection and positive transformation, thats the devil.

the devil pays close attention to what tempts people and in what way.

In evaluating the posts of all on this thread, I am reminded of what I learned from bhakti yoga: "You become like that to which you are devoted."

(Choose wisely)

amen.

meditation is in the bible. Jesus practiced it, recommended it. But, it was meditating on God and His word and being still and quiet so you could hear God. Not trying to astral project your spirit into another dimension.

Look at your Karma bars how green they are!

Now, look up the word Karma and see what it means and where the word comes from and the origin.

Very good post. This is the truth. The bible is metaphorical and has everything buried in it. And it cannot be taken literally.

Its a mystical journey, and Christ was a mystic.

I don't channel anyone...I don't believe in it. Lisa never said it was her "opinions" but rather stated it as being truth (her truth & therefore the gospel truth) I disagree & therefore have the right to state my truth also to counteract her blatant lies (ignorance of the subjects).
You call it bravado in helping people & her heart is walking in love.....I call it attempting to "control others)...a hallmark sign of psychological issues.

The unbelieving masses that hates God??? how do you know who hates God & who loves God???? Do you know what's in the heart of others in the world??? In my journey through life, I have witnessd more kindness, compassion & love from those who never attend a church & never read a Bible. They live the teachings of Buddha/Jesus from their inner knowing. No book required. The Bible and its teachings have caused more dissension, wars & violence than any other such holy book on the planet.

I can hardly wait for a new Earth & a whole new beginning. No more Bible, Qurans or any of these books that are now passing away where they belong. Do you see what religion has done to people. I do. Its time to wake up & take off the rose colored glasses.

Jesus saved my life and my soul. Stop wasting your time trying to get there yourself by lining up your chakras... Ha Ha Ha Childs play. Go to Jesus like you go to water, and your crown chakra will blow off the top of your head. I really feel bad for people waste there life lokking for other ways when his spirit is right in front of you every second of everyday. I used to be lost and now I am found amazing grace how sweet the sound. Love You All!

have you read my sig line?
it's strange to me that you see Lisa as trying to control you, but it appears to me that both of you are simply standing on your beliefs. i don't feel controlled when i read your posts. i don't feel offended, nor do i feel vulnerable or threatened. it's interesting that you do, and feel the need to speak for every other person that practices anything other than Christianity.

look, i am not interested in arguing with you. i am probably just as weary of the discrimination against Christians (real ones) as you are to the bible thumping fear mongers who continue to spread false witness.

God looks at the intent of our hearts.

Lisa is not trying to control anyone. She is taught to witness in this way. I don't always agree with it, but i can promise you, her heart is in the right place.

Discriminating against anyone for their race, creed, religion, etc, is wrong... period. stereotyping is just as bad ("all you Christians are alike" etc)

If people were seeing God and not the Father it must have been something else, yes? The awesome thing about the King James Bible is it has answers to these questions.

We believe God as one but as three, The Father, The Word or Son and the Holy Ghost. One of the three that are in the Godhead.

I would say it was the Word (Christ Jesus) before he became flesh.



I am just a child in Christ Jesus and claim no great knowledge, i do however trust in my Lord and King. He gave us his word and what God would he be if he could not protect the Holy Scripture.

If there any good that comes from me it is not of me but of my God.

Christ Jesus my Lord, my King, my Savior, my God.




John 1:1-5

King James Version (KJV)


John 1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"The same was in the beginning with God."

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

"In him was life; and the life was the light of men."

"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."




John 1:12-14

King James Version (KJV)


"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

"Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."




Colossians 2:8-10

King James Version (KJV)


"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."

"And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:"



1 John 5:6-9

King James Version (KJV)


"This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth."

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

"If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son."



So was Jesus called God?



John 20:25-29

King James Version (KJV)


"The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

"And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you."

"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing."

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God."

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."



Philippians 2:5-7

King James Version (KJV)


"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:"

"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"



Hebrews 1:5-10

King James Version (KJV)


"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"

"And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."

"And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire."

"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

"Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

"And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:"

For someone who has nothing to say, you have said an awful lot, and it has been all hateful remarks directed towards Lisa, against Christianity, against the Bible and against the God I believe in.

In fact, I don't recall seeing any post by you that intellectually backs up your conviction that reiki is not demonic.

How about dealing with the videos and facts and not do ad hominem comments?

Actually it is you that placed focus on Reiki, & ignoring the meditation & yoga that was also attacked. I have no need to prove anything to you because I know about Reiki, therefore I did not attack it by saying it is demonic. Have you had Reiki & been attacked by some demon during the session???? As regards meditation & yoga....both very old practices, even older than Christianity.....monks & nuns & celibate people who devote their lives to a spiritual practice are now deemed demonic. Incredible.

I came back to the thread in the vain hope of presenting a simple meditation vid for Lisa to listen to, but obviously one should not place seed in front of swine, when they are not ready to partake. I tried.

Jesus had his chakras all lined up, you cannot just line them up except as you become spiritually mature. They do not open otherwise. Your heart chakra will not open until you know love. Until your heart is filled with love. Jesus used Reiki energy to heal, it is the light energy of the universe.

God's spirit is right inside of you, not right in front of you, no matter what name you use for god. You do not become like Jesus until those chakras are lined up.

when the great energy of God arrives, the standing on the land and water, those that cannot experience their kundalini will not be filled. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

I'm a Christian, and a seminarian (non-catholic) who practices yoga and meditation.

the yoga is exercise only.

the meditation is being still and quiet so I can hear from God.

I don't meditate, I've never done yoga and I warn as many people as I can about reiki, kundalini and other eastern philosophies and practices. Reiki is essentially a Buddhist philosophy, therefore, it is not of God. Jesus was not a Buddhist.

As I said before, Jesus is complete in all that He is, who He is, what He does, what He can do and is able to do.

Why anyone needs to go to any other source after coming to Christ makes no sense to me other than it's a deception, it is a lie from the devil and is another tactic of his that he has cleverly derived in order to keep people's eyes off Jesus. He doesn't want you to be saved. He doesn't want you to know the Truth. By veering you onto this path of healing and Christ consciousness and surrounding you with myriads of others who do the same while lending you support, he is able to keep you in his realm of deceit.

As I said, I will continue to pray for you, or I'll put it another way--I will continue to pray against the devil's hold on all those who are being deceived.