If Nibiru/planet x is not coming, then what is FEMA and the secret government preparing for

ok meow meow anything you say

Assuming massive changes are happening and not just a blip on a graph spanning hundreds of millions of years , I find it somewhat amusing that you refer to people as stupid , while attempting to maintain believing in a planet on a 3600 year orbit; recurringly interlopes into the inner-solar-system AND IS ONLY ONE YEAR AWAY is perfectly intelligent .
I showed you the silliness of this in another thread using very simple algebra and Newtonian physics .
If you want an invader planet it cannot be 1 year away unless it is very small indeed , in which case how could it be causing these effects ? You cannot have it both ways , if you believe there is an object so large it can interact with our star and weather patterns to the extend YOU are claiming , then it also has to be interacting on a gravitational level with the other planets, and would be detectable !!!!!!!. There is no way around this

Please provide a legitimate link to a study that shows the moons orbit is off , not some website full of crackpots spouting nonsense . Oh and btw if the moon was off its orbit from an invaders influence so would the other planets . The moon is very close to us , if Nibiru was sufficiently large and or close to throw the moon of kilter , then there would be visible orbital perturbations in the other planets orbits as well

saying it does not make it true .

It is also mildly amusing how the Nibiru-cultism laches onto any and every post hoc argument it can no matter how inane it is . From Tyche , to Nemesis( even though the latter is on a scale of millions of years )
The only viable solution to the Nibiru problem is something like Tyche that then flings objects are way , and it would most likely not be the same object every time, and this time frame would have to be much much longer than 3600 years , you cannot get from 500 AU or so to 1 AU in 3600 years , the orbit would just not be stable enough PERIOD

Jacksprat you really think the moon is off orbit can you give me some REAL proof?

i didn't say the moon is off orbit, where are you getting that?

I believe Nibiru is close to Neptune

You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?

Yes Jack I'm aware of that paper. In fact you can't see the effect of a (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1 change in eccentricity at all, not even by telescope, only by long term monitoring using the apollo retroreflectors and laser measurement. Here's what it looks like:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Yeah, you can't see the difference in eccentricity at all in the shape of the orbit, it's orders of magnitude too small. The resulting physical difference in the position of the moon is measured in centimeters. You can't see that.

A perturbing planet was even specifically ruled out as a cause.
[link to arxiv.org]
The same author also published a paper establishing the limits of mass and distance of any hypothetical planet. The bottom line is that there is no massive planet anywhere near us, which is why a perturbing planet can be ruled out as a cause:
[link to arxiv.org]

The authors who actually made the discovery to begin with suggest it is not due to exogenous forces at all...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But again my point is that you said that in your opening post and then denied saying it.

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While I agree 100% something big is about to happen I can't accept Planet X/Nibiru. It would be in clear view by now... Nibiru sighting and footage should be 100xs that of UFO's at this point.


I did see some crazy lights over the Gulf of Mexico in April this year. The show starts about 1 minute in. NatGeo is going to use this footage in a show called "Chasing UFO's" due out this summer. Pretty cool.



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You know, I browse through some of this shit and what stuck out the most was when Anonymous Coward asked Jacksprat if he was working the midnight shift and Jackoff replied that he was there...I find the language curious, it can almost be assumed that they are part of the problem...One can easily imagine that some people are paid to watch and debunk these blogs, they can work in tandem such as Jacky and Annie here. Sometimes these guys think themselves so smart that they get careless...Such it would appear in the way the aforementioned greeting was made..."Dude...You workin' wit' me tonight or what?"

LOL, Yeah, I used to do these blogs but I got tired of these know it all guys...I guess Annie is of British extraction, his condescending attitude towards Americans exudes an English aura...

Ok, I'm going to put in my two cent on this subject.

It is true that many things are happening very fast and on a larger scale that in the past, namely earthquakes, tsunamis, etc...There is a lot of speculation about this Nibiru thing that Sitchin put forward and there is the Mayan Calendar and the Malachi prophesies,and The Bible, etc...Now, I've read all that crap and I've deduced that something is SCHEDULED to happen...I believe that the Mayan Calendar isn't a calendar at all but a type of measuring device or a stopwatch if you will..It's too late to say "Times up" because we already know that...Funny how even Annie there acknowledges the dark shift and how when the earth enters into this we're all fucked anyway unless he can be guided to some fuckin light or some such shit...It seems even the debunkers have their mystical shitty beliefs...Face it fellas, we're MEN, and we will all die as MEN...No fuckin lights...No fuckin camera...But you can get a lot of action before you die...But die you will...Man didn't make up God or the gods...These fuckers came here long ago and left all kinds of stories all over the world about their arrival and intervention...The Mayans couldn't have know shit about space because they never went to fuckin space...In fact no of the ancients could have known shit about planets or any of that crap...They were taught and trained as historical stories tell us today...And Annie, don't ask me to do the research for you by posting links as proof of anything I say... I don't give a fuck about you or Margaret Thatcher see? Find that shit yourself the way I did...Read some books or Google it.

The Mayan Calendar was not conceived by MAN...The shit has a start date thousands of years before the fuckin Maya existed...This is inherited technology...

You know what else no one has mentioned? Evolution and the hundreds if not thousands of missing links in earthly species...Has it ever occurred to anyone that the only way to have so many missing links is that the species were upgraded somewhere else and the released here? It's the only fuckin explanation that makes sense...

So...The question remains...This scheduled ELLIE...Is it due in 2012?

We all have front row seats so lets just watch the show...We talk about how people are gonna fight when the shit hits the fan, and why not? Even in a stupid fuckin blog we have assclowns like Anonymous Coward calling others idiot and the like...If people are misinformed or scared it is no reason to belittle them...Just because you don't share their beliefs doesn't make them inferior you, you pompous British fuck...I'm gonna speculate now...What if this MARDUK, or Nibiru is an intelligently controlled craft the size of a fuckin planet and it's controlling it's entrance into out solar system...They've already stated that Neptune and Uranus' orbits are perturbed by another body beyond the Ort cloud...And wheres all the fuckin money??? In 1995 there was money everywhere!! People had money in the streets!!


I think certain governments of the world have been preparing for something for a long time...I think that before this year is up it's gonna get ugly...So light em if you got em cause the shows about to start bitches!!!

And fuck the debunkers!!!

Rico

"If Nibiru/planet x is not coming, then what is FEMA and the secret government preparing for?"

20-30 years of non-stop economic decline as globalism gradually equalizes our economy with the 1st and 2nd world.

The economy to crash, nuclear war and or dirty bomb...

They believe the prophecies of the BIBLE-and they are fulfilling the prophecy of the 6 SEAL-REV CHAPTER 6 VERSE 15-16

But the Man who wrote the paper says you're psychotic if you think his paper says the moon's orbit is off. HIS words, not mine;

unfortunately the human body is to frail to deal with what the planet has to offer, we will be like cheese in a toaster followed by ice cubes in a freezer. if our bodies good adapt to extremes temperatures and pressures we would have a better chance , plus forces on this planet are to great to start with never mind a foreign body making it worse

C'mon, cut OP some slack; he's just a pathetic attention whore. Nothing unusual here.

What is "Wormwood"
What is "The Blue Star Karchina?
What is "Nibiru" (Marduk)

No one knows when the earth is going to pass through the galactic plane...But the Maya called it the dark shift.

This supposedly occurs every 26,000 years. It is a dark part of our space, we probably won't see the stars, we'll probably get hit with meteors with little or no warnings. It could get very nasty indeed. Now we have our FEMAs and shit all over the world with their DUMBS and there will be many that try to survive this coming event...It would seem that they have a better chance of survival and I hope they do because I want mankind to continue.

There are some that like to look at the mesoamerican popul vuh and translate the Maya predicted coming change as something wonderful, as like when earth enters the galactic plane that their will be some type of cosmic rays that will change mankind on a genetic level...They believe that we will have telekinetic and telepathic abilities and that we will be as gods...

That would be nice...But as I said in my last thread...These people that have this...Hope...Are the same as the Pharaohs of old...They want to be gods...They want a shot at immortality...Eternal light...Heaven...All that shit...Like I said...We are men, and the gods allotted us death and kept immortality for themselves as it is written in the Bible and in the tale of Adapa.

Everyone I talk to is in anticipation of something terrible happening, it's a paranoid type of atmosphere worldwide.

We're all like, waiting for something to happen.

You know that the legends say that after a major catastrophe has almost destroyed mankind these gods have returned to help. The way things are going with the global financial crisis, N. Korea acting like dicks, Iran (Persia) acting like dicks, oh and lets not forget the fuckin GOP acting like dicks. Add to that the earthquakes and other natural crap that's happened and that's going to happen and we have a lot on our plate...Imagine if England got hit with a 9.0, or California sank into the ocean...Nevermind the loss of life and collateral damages imagine what that does to an already fucked up economy...Now picture England with a 9.0 and California sinking away simultaneously...This is the kind of shit we can expect...A catastrophe after another one so that we can't even offer each other help...Yeah, fuck Nibiru, we're screwed in any religion.

Rico

Actually, they do know when the Solar System will pass through the 'galactic plane'. It happened about 3 Million years ago, you can look for it again in about 30 Million years or so. Starry Night agrees with this BTW;

Contrary to ridiculous claims, we will not pass through the central plane of the galactic disk in 2012.
[link to www.2012hoax.org]
"All of this happens while the systems are all orbiting the center of gravity of the Galaxy, every 33 million years or so during the complete 225-250 million year orbit...Based on the solar system's current position (27 +/- 4 pc, or 75 to 101 light years) above the galactic plane and the fact that we are currently moving away from it, with an estimated passage through it about 3 million years ago, we are not due to re-encounter the galactic plane for quite some time. We won’t be back through the disk for another 30 million years! I don’t think Microsoft Outlook goes out that far..."

come on! wasn't enki a good guy? summerians tales are so mixed up.

Are FEMA and the secret government prepering for something..? Link or some proof of that? and by the way, they need to get prepered if something suddenly would happen to us.

There is nothing you can do about this, that or whatever. Be right with your friends and family and know you are going home.

First of all if it were secret there would be no proof right?
However taking into account the DUMBS and the fact that FEMA is really engineered for what is called "The Continuation of Government during a crisis" and the fact that these DUMBS aren't exactly the fallout shelters our fathers had put together...These are sophisticated underground communities stockpiling supplies that will last for years as well as pharmaceuticals and even jails systems. Almost like an underground small city. It would seem to imply an expectation...Add to that all the prophesies and the escalation in natural and political events worldwide and you get conspiracy theory.

Did you say THEY need to get prepared if suddenly something were to happen to US?? WTF does that mean??

Rico

come on! wasn't enki a good guy? summerians tales are so mixed up.


Enki a good guy? Sumerian tales confusing? I guess you would find the Bible incomprehensible, You're only in here to debunk and you probably Google things you don't know about only to find them "confusing".

No Coward. The Sumerian cuneiform legends are not confusing at all...In fact it seems that a lot of the Old Testament tales originated from the Sumerians...You'd do well to investigate the early descriptions of God or gods. I'm referring to pre-monotheism...There were beings here that were superior to existing man and they taught man many things...At least that's what the "confusing tales" tell us.

The word Nibiru does not appear in any known copy of "The Enuma Elish" The entity that attacks Tiamat is called MARDUK.

Sitchin believed that when the god MARDUK usurped Enlilship on Earth that he had the Enuma Elish rewritten to replace Nibiru with his name, MARDUK...However to this day we don't have a scripture naming Nibiru as the planet with the "superior destiny" or eliptical orbit that Nibiru supposedly has.

So all this Nibiru shit came from Sitchin...This my dear friend Anonymous Coward, is why we must read and not assume we can Google everything, so that we know of what we speak.

No now that we know that...The word NI BI RU actually means "crossing" or something to that effect...Funny how the cross goes so far back huh?

Yeah, in order to understand these things you must study religions and shit like that...But something is going to happen...Be fuckin scared, because you can't do shit.

This shit is going to hit fast and hard...No time for CNN to tell you shit...The thing we all count on most and take for granted will be gone...Electricity.

It's gonna be a wild ride!! Stay on as long as you can maybe you'll make it till these bastards return with some help!!


Rico

The Bible is an account of mankinds past experience with an extraterrestrial race of beings.

Read the minor prophets like habbakkuk and Joel, nevermind revelation...Forget the entire new testament...Concentrate on the Old Testament... Check out those minor prophets and how they describe the return of the LORD...How he comes out of the southern skies and the mountains jump like calves at his return.

They talk about a day of darkness where the stars have changed their station. WTF does that mean?? Change their station??

LMAO!! Yeah man!! Nibiru is the least of our problems!!

The reason you're seeing all this shit, all these wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes in "diverse" places...Is because the fuckin fig branches are warm...It means 'End Times"...We don't have 20 years left living life as we know it.

I hope they fuckin legalize pot in America already!!

Rico

I think that soon they will announce a threat from something extraterrestrial and will justify spending like zillions of dollars on space defense crap...This is what seems to be coming.

Rico

The main questions for me are:

- Where have the Trillions of dollars gone?

- Is the threat of economic collapse, WWIII etc just diversions to keep you looking anywhere but where you should be looking?

- Why was Russia building underground bunkers for all residents in Moscow with a must-have completion date of 2012?

- Why are there Chinese ghost cities deep inland?

- Were the Georgia Guidestones built for after an event?

With the amount of money missing around the World you could build anything at any price.

All good points for discussion