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aether (OP) User ID: 28218601  United Kingdom12/18/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have always been fascinated how they know HOW to work together. Quoting: Seer777 HOW do they communicate? [link to nursingcrib.com]  looking at that it prompts wondering how much conscious process is self conscious we label our self conscious (noticeable to us) potion of our conscious process between 5% and 3% of the total "capacity" our body functions (communicates) internal with our external (environment) so is our personality/soul 5% to 3% of our conscious unit in an environment where the majority of units have 0 % self conscious it makes our environment as alive as we are but motivated to motives we are not always aware of does that make sense ? |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467  United States12/18/2012 07:53 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have always been fascinated how they know HOW to work together. Quoting: Seer777 HOW do they communicate? [link to nursingcrib.com] looking at that it prompts wondering how much conscious process is self conscious we label our self conscious (noticeable to us) potion of our conscious process between 5% and 3% of the total "capacity" our body functions (communicates) internal with our external (environment) so is our personality/soul 5% to 3% of our conscious unit in an environment where the majority of units have 0 % self conscious it makes our environment as alive as we are but motivated to motives we are not always aware of does that make sense ? Not really, no. It reminds me of that post I did about Earth's consciousness some time ago. But I don't remember enough to pull it up. Perhaps you do. I put it on 141's thread as well, the next day. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have always been fascinated how they know HOW to work together. Quoting: Seer777 HOW do they communicate? [link to nursingcrib.com] looking at that it prompts wondering how much conscious process is self conscious we label our self conscious (noticeable to us) potion of our conscious process between 5% and 3% of the total "capacity" our body functions (communicates) internal with our external (environment) so is our personality/soul 5% to 3% of our conscious unit in an environment where the majority of units have 0 % self conscious it makes our environment as alive as we are but motivated to motives we are not always aware of does that make sense ? Not really, no. It reminds me of that post I did about Earth's consciousness some time ago. But I don't remember enough to pull it up. Perhaps you do. I put it on 141's thread as well, the next day. :) 141 ? |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is a member here. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I can't remember enough to pull it up. I think it might have been the same night I posted the 'tears in rain' video. If not, I am being pulled in both those directions. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is it.. lol. I was being lazy.  Creation loves it when you look upon itself and admire its beauty and wisdom it shares. So much to learn. To sit out in nature and observe and listen will enlighten one a bit. Quoting: Cutbait  :) I wrote something quite similar last night... I believe the Earth is Conscious... Quoting: Seer777 Think about it this way...what would the Earth be without MAN to ponder her mysteries, appreciate on Her beauty, and muse on Her magic? That is what WE give to the Earth. Some of us anyway... Do animal weep with the beauty of her majesty? Attempt to capture it in song, poetry, and art? Stand in awe of perfection? Or simply live? To be 'beast' or Man...(Self)Earth Consciousness. To Know of ones place within and with/out. If for instance, the "electric air" is conscious, then that which surround us at all times is just trying to tell us how much it loves us. Embrace us, nurture us, it does. Where could we naturally go from there..but to Cosmic Consciousness... -----------> Keep moving forward.   Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everything else avoids it because they respond to signals , pain , sense of danger, etc. but when their moment of death by whatever means is occurring they have no issue because they die right as in: no issues attached to death |
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| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think where i am going with it is we are likely the only life within our magnetosphere that has an "issue" with death Quoting: aether everything else avoids it because they respond to signals , pain , sense of danger, etc. but when their moment of death by whatever means is occurring they have no issue because they die right as in: no issues attached to death Why do elephants return to scatter the bones of their dead? Why does a bird cry over its dead mate? How does a gorilla mourn a kitten? Why does a flower stretch it's face to light? Consciousness. It's just a manner of perception.  Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think where i am going with it is we are likely the only life within our magnetosphere that has an "issue" with death Quoting: aether everything else avoids it because they respond to signals , pain , sense of danger, etc. but when their moment of death by whatever means is occurring they have no issue because they die right as in: no issues attached to death Why do elephants return to scatter the bones of their dead? Why does a bird cry over its dead mate? How does a gorilla mourn a kitten? Why does a flower stretch it's face to light? Consciousness. It's just a manner of perception. well missing those you love is an issue for those left behind those left behind symbolizing their grief/sense of loss does not = one whom has left (died) has an issue with death having loved one killed unexpectedly is shocking for those left behind and not the choice of the one whom died, whom may have tried to avoid death because they loved whom they were with or just liked being alive none of that = issue with death as an event to ponder only confirms an event to avoid until you don`t because living is what you enjoy Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2012 08:15 PM |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | none of that = issue with death as an event to ponder Quoting: aether only confirms an event to avoid until you don`t because living is what you enjoy Are you asking if a dog contemplates it's own death? I would think no. But I do know they mourn. So, there is some sentient understanding therein. How much time they spend reflecting on it, we can't know. At least right now. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all devils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace. [link to faculty.uml.edu] Quoting: observationLast Edited by aether on 01/22/2014 09:11 PM |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | none of that = issue with death as an event to ponder Quoting: aether only confirms an event to avoid until you don`t because living is what you enjoy Are you asking if a dog contemplates it's own death? I would think no. But I do know they mourn. So, there is some sentient understanding therein. How much time they spend reflecting on it, we can't know. At least right now. :) i detect only people ponder dieing as in: what happens everything naturally avoids it until they do not (common sense) Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2012 08:27 PM |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | none of that = issue with death as an event to ponder Quoting: aether only confirms an event to avoid until you don`t because living is what you enjoy Are you asking if a dog contemplates it's own death? I would think no. But I do know they mourn. So, there is some sentient understanding therein. How much time they spend reflecting on it, we can't know. At least right now. :) i detect only people ponder dieing as in: what happens everything naturally avoids it until they do not (common sense) i believe mourning is only a fraction of their visible expressive consciousness because we (people) are just ourselves re orientating our interest in consciousness thus are prompted to notice a wider selection of what we allow to be called consciousness remember in our current belief leadership "laws" god, angels and man are the only possessors of consciousness and because god made man in his image if it doesn`t act like a man it can never be conscious whatever it is Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2012 08:34 PM |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our memory tells in another era we died like this Quoting: aether Men lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all devils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace. Quoting: observationThat sounds lovely. Being able to create ones reality at will, would be nice as well. That is how I imagine 4D or the Afterlife. A kind of 'choose you own adventure' type thing. How else could 'one' make Eternity fun? It should be fun right? I would think yes. Hopefully. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That sounds lovely. Being able to create ones reality at will, would be nice as well. That is how I imagine 4D or the Afterlife. A kind of 'choose you own adventure' type thing. How else could 'one' make Eternity fun? It should be fun right? I would think yes. Hopefully. :) well whatever dimension you are conscious within it is 2 you and all that is not you that you are conscious within being you so fun is here as much as anywhere remembering in our material dimension outside of our magnetosphere is not the same as inside it and we are glimpsing the scale outside of our sphere |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That sounds lovely. Being able to create ones reality at will, would be nice as well. That is how I imagine 4D or the Afterlife. A kind of 'choose you own adventure' type thing. How else could 'one' make Eternity fun? It should be fun right? I would think yes. Hopefully. :) by nature i am it if is not fun i am not doing it |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's certainly not all fun. But it's not suppose to be. One finds forward progress with difficulty. Fun is found by doing what one loves and is exciting. How balanced that is in an individual is up to their choices. It's something I have frequently pondered on since childhood. Eternity. How to make it enjoyable...? I figured for myself, it would be a bit of a living different lives in different incarnations. On different planets, and different species all together. To live a complete cycle in each to learn the lessons of each incarnation. Continuing to progress forward as a soul or essence, or whatever it is which remains. Or perhaps just hanging out formless for awhile. In eternity it seems, all things are possible.  Just my musings. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's certainly not all fun. But it's not suppose to be. One finds forward progress with difficulty. Fun is found by doing what one loves and is exciting. How balanced that is in an individual is up to their choices. It's something I have frequently pondered on since childhood. Eternity. How to make it enjoyable...? I figured for myself, it would be a bit of a living different lives in different incarnations. On different planets, and different species all together. To live a complete cycle in each to learn the lessons of each incarnation. Continuing to progress forward as a soul or essence, or whatever it is which remains. Or perhaps just hanging out formless for awhile. In eternity it seems, all things are possible. Just my musings. :) remarkable accurate and remarkably arrives because i am surprised by your ease of saying that your "tone" says you know because you have oh and i don`t know on that topic because i am new to our material dimension i say don`t know don`t know your ............ huh why does it stop there i have a complete "blur" on oh forgive me for telling but it seems you will and you know you will because you have remote sensed/viewed what you do haha i am really laughing now at myself and will delete if requested |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's certainly not all fun. But it's not suppose to be. One finds forward progress with difficulty. Fun is found by doing what one loves and is exciting. How balanced that is in an individual is up to their choices. It's something I have frequently pondered on since childhood. Eternity. How to make it enjoyable...? I figured for myself, it would be a bit of a living different lives in different incarnations. On different planets, and different species all together. To live a complete cycle in each to learn the lessons of each incarnation. Continuing to progress forward as a soul or essence, or whatever it is which remains. Or perhaps just hanging out formless for awhile. In eternity it seems, all things are possible. Just my musings. :) remarkable accurate and remarkably arrives because i am surprised by your ease of saying that your "tone" says you know because you have oh and i don`t know on that topic because i am new to our material dimension i say don`t know don`t know your ............ huh why does it stop there i have a complete "blur" on oh forgive me for telling but it seems you will and you know you will because you have remote sensed/viewed what you do haha i am really laughing now at myself and will delete if requested You like it? Excellent. That is what I perceived. A bit like the Little Prince. Catching 'stars' and flying to different adventures. :) I just stumbled on this by chance. It reminded me of something I read the other day about the 'fox'. Quite beautiful. Here is just the story, the video cuts off just before the end. [link to www.angelfire.com]  Last Edited by Seer777 on 12/18/2012 09:36 PM Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You like it? Excellent. That is what I perceived. A bit like the Little Prince. Catching 'stars' and flying to different adventures. :) I just stumbled on this by chance. It reminded me of something I read the other day about the 'fox'. Quite beautiful. Here is just the story, the video cuts off just before the end. [link to www.angelfire.com] i like it because it is motive for being material The Little Prince and The Fox thought provoking beauty /z\ Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2012 09:55 PM |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Electric Biology Quoting: aether Experiments with electrostatic fields might illuminate biological diversity. Quoting: observationA major problem in biology is the internal motion of proteins. Researchers from the University of Pennsylvania using Magnetic Resonance Imaging were surprised to discover that the calmodulin protein molecule possesses an internal "jitter" that shakes it billions of times per second. This revelation led them to conclude that it is not merely the complex folded shape of such molecules that affects their function, but their internal movement. According to Dr. Joshua Wand, “The situation is akin to the discussion in astrophysics in which theoreticians predict that there is dark matter, or energy, that no one has yet seen.” Where the internal energy necessary for protein binding comes from is unknown at the present time, but it seems likely, based on research with electrostatic fields on various organisms, that there is an electrical component to the source. Cell walls are arranged in a double layer configuration with positive and negative ion channels built-in. A book called The Primeval Code (Der Urzeit-Code) was recently published in Switzerland, detailing experiments that demonstrate how a changing electric field can alter gametes so much that new species are created. According to author Luc Bürgin, "In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an 'electrostatic field' – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.................. [link to www.thunderbolts.info] while our belief department ponders "tree/flower" label sequence Quoting: aether whatever is decided to call this:  it is electrostatic in nature and being electrostatic in design /z\, it behaves differently to electromagnetic designed this \z/ : Quoting: aether  hovering around this which comes first: Quoting: observationelectrical breakdown (sparkover) or electrical separation forces? |
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| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i suppose that is what we do after 21.12.2012 Quoting: aether utilize the non material structures arisen within society to form material structure into function i guess that was the point a new universe for the new year let us see if any disagree between now and then no if, but or when Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2012 10:04 PM |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States12/18/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and we still possess 2 days before our calendar expires Quoting: aether is there another mayan calendar we are going to utilize or are we dropping calendars as a topic apart for convenience of date after this one  12/21/12 will pass exactly how mankind choose it to. True. What happens after will be the effect of that wave. We can make it mighty or we can make it weak. :) :watermountain: Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/18/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and we still possess 2 days before our calendar expires Quoting: aether is there another mayan calendar we are going to utilize or are we dropping calendars as a topic apart for convenience of date after this one 12/21/12 will pass exactly how mankind choose it to. True. What happens after will be the effect of that wave. We can make it mighty or we can make it weak. :) :watermountain: we will find out by finding out Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2012 10:13 PM |
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| 0 User ID: 25228650 United States12/19/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dynamic seamless transition. When we feel so in place that we need not think less we trip on an self imposed ending. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus To being so immersed in process we forget about ersatz beginnings and endings which only act to make ghosts of us. Cheers The same statement applys to Love. Cheers! 0 |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/19/2012 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Galactic Fireballs Dec 19, 2012 Images of the Coma Cluster from the Subaru Telescope reveal galactic filaments connecting bright “knots” of ionized gas. Quoting: observationAccording to redshift calculations, the Coma Cluster is a sphere of galaxies 3.5 million light years in diameter over 300 million light years from Earth. The cluster is one of the most compact mass accumulations in the observable Universe with more than 1000 galaxies grouped together inside a haze of gas and dust that has been measured at a temperature of 100 million Kelvin. Astronomers continue to puzzle over the intense X-rays blaring out from Coma’s central region, a finding that has, thus far, eluded theoretical explanation. Scientists analyzing data from the Subaru Telescope discovered a “threadlike structure” emerging from RB199, one of the larger elliptical galaxies inhabiting the cluster. The filament extends approximately 260,000 light years from RB199 and contains groups of stars in close association that are enclosed by glowing, ionized shells. Researchers refer to these rapidly moving star cluster knots as “fireballs,” because they look like flaming projectiles shooting out from the galaxy. What caused the compact clumps of stars to form? ............... [link to www.thunderbolts.info] Last Edited by aether on 12/19/2012 06:34 AM |
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| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom12/19/2012 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets see, the facts, we exist. The fact, no life has ever been observed to form spontaneously. So if you believe it did, then you believe in something against the observed data. Quoting: observationI don't believe anything regarding this question. Whether or not non-living matter can turn into life or not does not change anything. In both cases the conclusion must be that life has always been part of an eternal universe. It doesn't take much thinking to realize this. Quoting: observationYour problem is that you are desperately seeking "beginnings" in order to prove the supernatural. Even though the supernatural per definition cannot be proven. Wouldn't it be better to just accept the observed data. Life as such exists. It never began. So you believe science to be wrong when it says for every effect there must be a cause? One of the main tenets of scientific belief. So how does an eternal universe without a cause not violate cause and effect or creation from nothing, the two top tenets that separate science from mythology? So since we are here, then one of the above two tenets of science is incorrect. Take your pick. Quoting: observationAn eternal universe never started. Quoting: observationCreation from nothing is not a tenet of science. It's mysticism, and yes, often found in in mythologies. Last Edited by aether on 12/19/2012 07:00 AM |
