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Affects of Obamacare

 
Anonymous Coward
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Wow thanks for the pin. I'm so interested to know if other people feeling impacts yet. I'm just sick inside about all this. With Codex Alimintarious constantly in the background. What are they doing to us?
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see if you can find the text in the bill that's says what you posted OP

or a link or something to backup what you claim

because if this is true it's HUGE
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Lets see the details before we assume that the felony charge comes before the death panel verdict.

But it does make sense that a determination was made that felons will be much easier to euthanize.
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
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towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


Wow, I didn't know about that. It just gets worse. Thanks for sharing.
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


Some maybe able to leave but many are unemployed or live paycheck to paycheck and have children; homes

things like this that will not allow them to just up and leave


this is why they keep the masses impoverished and stupid
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And with every felony charge comes the removal of voting and gun owners rights.
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07/19/2012 02:24 PM
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Arkansas has run the numbers on the Affordable Care Act and
find that it will save Arkansas and Arkansans money.
[link to www.arktimes.com]
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[link to www.fortwayne912.com]

Very good read!
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


Wow, I didn't know about that. It just gets worse. Thanks for sharing.
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anyone thinking of leaving must find out the date when this goes into effect. I think it said Nov or Dec. And leave before that....
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I want to see proof before I start telling people.

This is huge, if your doctor says take Chemo and you decide not to, you may rot in jail until you die.

I won't take Chemo ever...
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Same here. There's LOTS of alternative treatments that work better. I've had three friends use them, two of them at stage IV, and have been tumor "free" for years.

Plus, in Maricopa county, in the part of it I'm in, you're lucky if you get to see a doctor. You always get Physicians Assistants and Nurse Practitioners prescribing meds. I've gotten the wrong script several times. Even made me blow out an eardrum once. And two times they wanted me on anti-depressants, which I didn't want but gave them a try and ended up freaking out. I can't take them and I hate them. So I'd be a criminal if I refused to take my meds, even if they were wrong?

I hope this is just a misunderstanding. If not, there's better countries and places to live than here.
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


The Affordable Care Act has no such provision.

You must be thinking of existing Federal law reguarding "renouncing your citizenship".
There is a 30% penalty for when you do that.
And that was set into law years before the black man
became President.
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


The Affordable Care Act has no such provision.

You must be thinking of existing Federal law reguarding "renouncing your citizenship".
There is a 30% penalty for when you do that.
And that was set into law years before the black man
became President.
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We only dislike obamacare because he is black right?

rolleyes
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I want to see proof before I start telling people.

This is huge, if your doctor says take Chemo and you decide not to, you may rot in jail until you die.

I won't take Chemo ever...
 Quoting: TURMOIL


The Affordable Care Act explicitly provides for patients reject extraordinary lifesaving efforts.
Under the act, patients decide on end of life treatment.
Whether its chemo or feeding tubes or bypass machines or heart lung machines, the patient decides.
At some point soon, an adult admitted to a hospital will be asked what measures they want and do not want in case they are later unconcious and unable to speak for themselves.
You choose.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


The Affordable Care Act has no such provision.

You must be thinking of existing Federal law reguarding "renouncing your citizenship".
There is a 30% penalty for when you do that.
And that was set into law years before the black man
became President.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508141


We only dislike obamacare because he is black right?

rolleyes
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Just wanted to point out that Obama is as much white as he is black - that black card just doesn't fly with me.....
Charlie Scene

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towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


The Affordable Care Act has no such provision.

You must be thinking of existing Federal law reguarding "renouncing your citizenship".
There is a 30% penalty for when you do that.
And that was set into law years before the black man
became President.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508141


We only dislike obamacare because he is black right?

rolleyes
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Just wanted to point out that Obama is as much white as he is black - that black card just doesn't fly with me.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


I don't think it really flies with anyone anymore....accept guilt filled white liberals.
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Still waiting to hear from my friend if she was told this by her doctor, if she is just venting to the extreme, or if she knows exactly where this is documented...... I'll keep ya'll posted as I hear back from her - probably in getting her treatment this morning so might a bit longer......

Anybody else experiencing things from the new constitutional tax imposed on all of us?

Anybody else finding anything interesting in the law itself?
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The Affordable Care Act has no such provision.

You must be thinking of existing Federal law reguarding "renouncing your citizenship".
There is a 30% penalty for when you do that.
And that was set into law years before the black man
became President.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508141


We only dislike obamacare because he is black right?

rolleyes
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Just wanted to point out that Obama is as much white as he is black - that black card just doesn't fly with me.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


I don't think it really flies with anyone anymore....accept guilt filled white liberals.
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accept should be except, I think. :-)
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The Affordable Care Act has no such provision.

You must be thinking of existing Federal law reguarding "renouncing your citizenship".
There is a 30% penalty for when you do that.
And that was set into law years before the black man
became President.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508141


We only dislike obamacare because he is black right?

rolleyes
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Just wanted to point out that Obama is as much white as he is black - that black card just doesn't fly with me.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


I don't think it really flies with anyone anymore....accept guilt filled white liberals.
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


It really seems like everyone forgot his mommy is a white girl when its convenient. Your response was very clever - I won't point it out just yet so the grammar nazis can jump all over it, only a matter of time, but it cracks me up :) Very clever :)
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This is the sort of scare mongering we heard back in the 70s over the ERA amendment. "They'll make you pee with the boys!"
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Maybe I should have not started a new thread and posted it here... go look more good info that you wont like

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We only dislike obamacare because he is black right?

rolleyes
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Just wanted to point out that Obama is as much white as he is black - that black card just doesn't fly with me.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


I don't think it really flies with anyone anymore....accept guilt filled white liberals.
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


It really seems like everyone forgot his mommy is a white girl when its convenient. Your response was very clever - I won't point it out just yet so the grammar nazis can jump all over it, only a matter of time, but it cracks me up :) Very clever :)
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cool2

It worked perfectly, because it is soo similar to your grammatic error.
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Just wanted to point out that Obama is as much white as he is black - that black card just doesn't fly with me.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


I don't think it really flies with anyone anymore....accept guilt filled white liberals.
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


It really seems like everyone forgot his mommy is a white girl when its convenient. Your response was very clever - I won't point it out just yet so the grammar nazis can jump all over it, only a matter of time, but it cracks me up :) Very clever :)
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cool2

It worked perfectly, because it is soo similar to your grammatic error.
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I thought it was an absolute work of art - very clever and cracked me up - it was perfect!
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A felony if I don't follow doctors orders??

Better take my meds.
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This is Horrible, i hope WW3 starts before it's implemented
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That would be 'Effects' of Obamacare.

But what do I know, I'm just an AC in China.
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There are many americans leaving the country to avoid taxes. So whats the american gubment to do? Pass an 'exit tax' that will automatically get your money upon your emmigration. From what ive read, they are drawing up the bill now,

I dont know how that fits in with obamacare tho

Hi everyone!

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


towards the end of this year, when there's a mass exodus out of this country, and you wire money out of the country...

in that bill, the receiving bank must return 30% of your money to the IRS. This is not to pay back taxes. This is your penalty for leaving the country....

and trust me, there will be a mass exodus once the sheep wake up....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425


how can that be?

how can a U.S. bill affect what foreign banks must do with your money?

regardless mines already out ;)

- chance favors the prepared mind
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Wow thanks for the pin. I'm so interested to know if other people feeling impacts yet. I'm just sick inside about all this. With Codex Alimintarious constantly in the background. What are they doing to us?
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see if you can find the text in the bill that's says what you posted OP

or a link or something to backup what you claim

because if this is true it's HUGE
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I'll look for it, but like I say my friend emailed me this morning about it and I haven't yet researched it myself. I'll let you know if I can find it - probably not using the word 'felony' would be my guess but penalty would be equivalent - just my gut telling me that. I'll also write my friend back and see if I can get the reference. I'll post as soon as I hear anything.

And for the grammar gurus out there - yes I agree 'effects' was better than 'affects' but please don't let that take the focus off the subject.

I'll check back after while and hopefully I'll have more to add. I'm just sick about it all.......
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Oh, You got an email from your friend! It's MUST be true then! Seriously, if your company is fining you, that's their decision and you should protest that, but it has nothing to do with AFA. If you can't provide real evidence for what you are claiming, you are simply fear mongering.
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Wow thanks for the pin. I'm so interested to know if other people feeling impacts yet. I'm just sick inside about all this. With Codex Alimintarious constantly in the background. What are they doing to us?
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i had started a thread all ready feeling obama care death plans in ca. my mom in law was admitted the day after the upholding of the insurance company written obama/romney care law and was told by her dr that the treatments that she had gotten just three weeks earlier for the same problem would now not be covered due to the ruling on the obama/romney care. the dr told her that they would care for her,medicare, BUT if she wanted those treatments she had covered 3 weeks earlier she would have to pay for it herself. It is only a matter of time before more folks have this happen to them. by the way she just passed this morning. we are all soo screwed!
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health care does not exist.
sorry for your loss [hug].
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you americans are fucked long time ago. If you were not that stupid, yelling all the time how great america is, you would have done something about it. Now it's to late.
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Hi everyone!

I just found out this morning that Obamacare makes it a felony if you don't do what you doctor tells you to do, and it also makes it a felony if you leave the country for treatment. I am beyond shocked and pissed about it. I haven't yet read looking for this, but I have a friend who has left the country for cancer treatment and concerned that she won't be able to return for future treatments after January. Makes me feel sick inside that she cannot choose her treatment.

I'm already feeling affects of Obamacare at work. I will be fined $1500 a year (since its added onto my insurance cost I don't think they call it a fine) if I don't do three things.

1. I need to do a health screening at the company clinic held in the cafeteria where they do blood pressure, blood test, weight, body fat index, interview me on what I eat and such. This information goes to my COMPANY and not to my doctor. It is a $500 fine per year if I don't do this.

2. and 3. My husband I must take an online health questionnaire by a certain date. This is worth $500 fine each if we don't do it. Again information goes to my company and not to my doctor. The company used to do this in the past but used to pay people $50 each to do it - now they fine people $500 each (plus $500 fine for spouse) if they don't.

It's starting folks. This is beyond anything I could have imagined. WTH else is in that bill?

How are other people feeling impacts of this bill?
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Op, are you employed by a LARGE aerospace company? Someone I know just told me this exact thing regarding their employer's policy.
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Probably same company. Most are just accepting it without question. Doesn't seem to phase folks what is really going on here.





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