Why are you afraid of lawful gun ownership?

Lawful and reasonable are not the same thing. There are a lot of crazy mofos with legal guns.

Cause, it be dangerouse tryin to jack or door kick yo ass !

That's an understandable argument. There are crazy people driving as we type this stuff. Where do we cross the line?

I just got back from the range. Great day here in Ohio. Overcast and cool.

Oh and, guns rock....

Yeah, they are called criminals and should be dealt with as such.

Leave the rest of the good gun owners the FUCK alone!!!

You're Canadian and you are calling BS. Look, you guys already gave up totally, we have a ways to go yet.

Your lack of meaningfulness in this discussion is boundless.

Ahh, the smell of gunpowder! Yes!

:Anti car jacking:

I would be interested if you support gun control, and why you think that would be a benefit to this country. I know some may may fun of you, but I will do the best I can to answer your concerns honestly.

Even lawful citizens can go off the deep end, and end up hurting someone or killing them, or many others, since a gun makes it so easy to kill multiple people.


I have a hard time grasping the idea of someone being free, yet needing a gun to protect themselves against other american citizens.

Legal gun ownership! The teeth of the people against tyranny. Wasn´t one of the first thing Hilter did when he came to power, was to take away citizens rights to own a weapon?


Most people who are for gun control have no understanding why it was placed as a right in the constitution. Because of the random psycho (mind controlled or not) they believe gun control will stop such horrible crimes.

Even a car can be a weapon.

Here in Germany you often hear (on the radio) of "ghost drivers" who for whatever reason drive on the wrong side of the highway. The motive may be for the most part suicide, but in doing so these individuals hurt and kill others.

Should we give up collectively our right to drive a vehicle because other individuals commit such horrible acts?

Could all people be convinced to give up their rights to own and drive a vehicle based on the misguided acts of a few?

This isn´t about saving lives and having a more peaceful existence with another - it is about control.

Just Relaxing today!!

Not afraid of standard hunting rifles and handguns, but why the fuck do you need assault rifles is a mystery to even most guns lovers.

Yes, but the sane ones more than outweigh those idiots. So, regardless of one's excuse for taking another's life or health, would you rather increase your odds that something like that might happen to you or your family by agreeing to disarm yourself and most anyone else that might help you, or do you anticipate the government that disarms you and I to protect you from that reality every moment for the rest of your life.

If the latter, you are truly naive, and likely a bit off your rocker.

Watch out. You're being rational.

That is true, guns can be used for violence. That is generally, although not exclusively what they exist for. Your crazy neighbor can also stab you to death, he can run over you with his GREEN conscious car. He, or she for that matter, could sneak in your house while you are gone and pour poison into your food.

If my friend you consider that criminals will always possess the best ways of killing us honest folk, why would I settle for a pocket knife when my enemy will have a 9MM? Or, he will - as I said before - have five friends to beat you down and laugh while he rapes your daughter in front of you.

If you think outlawing legal guns for citizens would keep guns out of the hands of criminals, just look to our government and Mexico for your answer. Guns will never go away. By design, bad people don't follow laws so they will always have a gun available for the right price. You will not if gun laws change. Think of your daughter, wife, sister.

This is pinned. Where is everyone?



Switzerland has one of the highest militia gun ownership rates in the world.
In recent times political opposition has expressed a desire for tighter gun regulations.

A referendum in February 2011 rejected stricter gun control.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Police statistics for the year 2006[14] records 34 killings or attempted killings involving firearms, compared to 69 cases involving bladed weapons and 16 cases of unarmed assault. Cases of assault resulting in bodily harm numbered 89 (firearms) and 526 (bladed weapons). As of 2007, Switzerland had a population of about 7,600,000. This would put the rate of killings or attempted killings with firearms at about one for every quarter million residents yearly. This represents a decline of aggravated assaults involving firearms since the early 1990s.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

If we outlaw all guns to prevent murders we ought to outlaw all cameras to prevent child porn.

...That is the type of logic we are working with...

If the penalty for murder isn't stopping them, why would some gun law stop them? "Gun Control" is just plain ignorance of reality.

An "assault rifle" does the same shit a hunting rifle does. We do not have fully automatic weapons (though gangs can seem to get them anyway)

These scary weapons that look like a machine gun are just dressed up sporting rifles, basically.
So please find another argument. Thanks.

Last Edited by Tard on 08/11/2012 06:08 PM

Hey gun controltards [Those of you who believe everything you hear on TV]...

If the jewish people didn't have their guns confiscated do you think the Holocaust still would have happened?

Yeah.

jewish people would have stood no chance.

That's fine if you want to use them for hunting.


But what animal do you shoot at that needs 30, 45 or 100 rounds of ammo to kill?


A zombie deer?

What exactly has tens of millions of gun owners in the U.S. done to prevent...

the TSA
the IRS
the DHS
the FBI
domestic drones
30+ MILLION illegal enemy invaders in our country
etc.????

Again, how has the 2nd amendment prevented the above, and so much more ruthless tyranny by the U.S. gov't on her citizens?

Not only that, the U.S. has the most gun violence in the world.

So how has hundreds of millions of guns in private citizens' hands prevented tyranny?

It hasn't!

The 2nd Amend has been FUCKING WORTHLESS AT PREVENTING TYRANNY...Which is exactly what it was supposed to prevent!

Regulations Against jewish people' Possession of Weapons
11 November 1938
With a basis in §31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p.265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and §9 of the Führer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p 1331) are the following ordered:

§1
jewish people (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

§2
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.

§3
The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in §1 for jewish people who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.

§4
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of §1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.

§5
For the implementation of this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.

§6
This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.

Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick

At least there's a driver's test before they let you drive. The NRA thinks it's unconstitutional to give you a gun user's test. That's just BS and very dangerous.

One - they're fun to shoot if you're a gun lover.

Two - assuming legal (and sane) ownership, what the hell is the difference. Why the hell do some people buy any more car than a Hyundai? Why do you buy designer clothes over the shit they sell at Walmart? Could go on, but you get the picture.

Three - those that may wish us harm in the (near) future could have much more dangerous guns and defenses than a mere handgun or hunting rifle could counter. As long as lawful people own something similar, or at least effective, those in the future will remain safer - because most of the evil that wish to control or harm are true cowards at heart. So, as long as someone evil knows the deterrent exists, they typically won't try. If I had my way, I'd make it a requirement that every law abiding citizen of age own and train annually with a heavy caliber and properly equipped assault rifle.

Last Edited by SaveUSa on 08/11/2012 06:16 PM

The holocaust didn't happen anyway, gov't shill tard.

Well, that's a good question that I can answer. They are the closest to cutting edge a normal citizen can buy. They are a lot more fun then old flintlock smooth bores of old, or we can just go back to rubbing two sticks together to create fire?

For two, if the people kicking in your door have had months to plan what illegal weapon they wish to bring to your door crashing party, you might want a repeating rifle with a large caliber and a high capacity magazine to meet that threat. That would be my personal preference anyway. I know, I know I'm a weirdo.

The long and short of this is that the technology is out there. Ever heard of computer viruses? Would you be satisfied with virus definitions from 15 years ago to deal with modern threats? If the criminal that is going to rape and kill your wife is using modern tech, would you be satisfied with a sling shot?