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We are about to reach a point where the computer becomes self conscious | |
| Super evolution ignition User ID: 25507586  United States10/13/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anaiah  User ID: 25470439 United States10/13/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That'll be a definitely interesting day. I've always held that the truth on god was halfway between science and religion (as both are today, currently). They go together and back each other in some odd and interesting ways, like the explanation of the spheres in the kabbalistic creation story that goes well in line with the science involved in the big bang in quantum physics. As above, So below. |
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| Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670  Canada10/13/2012 06:14 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even advanced Grey type universal mainetance crew are simply Toasters. AI is highly intelligent, interactive toaster, but not self aware. They'll not be creating what they think, much like the universe, which is an interactive, highly intelligent, program computer type matrix. We enter into the dream lab for our schooling. Thoughtscape technology. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 10/13/2012 06:15 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4436859 United States10/13/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason is the computer would have to be biological in the first place to gain any sort of consciousness, and that will not happen with chips and electrical wire-ings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4436859 Conciousness is not it's material, but a function independent and limited by it. To a point: Conciousness (as electricity) either flows or is stored in a dielectric as a form of memory and continued independance enwrapped in the bias and limitation of whichever material it is housed. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616  Spain10/13/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you claiming a computer will suddenly become embarrassed or that it will become aware of it's actions? Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus As even moderate A.I is awareness to a degree in that it creates individuated parameters and a call to function. And the computer opened her infrared ports and saw her naked cables and was afraid, so it covered herself with a nice aluminum cover. Tada! Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you claiming a computer will suddenly become embarrassed or that it will become aware of it's actions? Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus As even moderate A.I is awareness to a degree in that it creates individuated parameters and a call to function. And the computer opened her infrared ports and saw her naked cables and was afraid, so it covered herself with a nice aluminum cover. Tada! She was deep scanned and came up with a virus! aghast! |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you claiming a computer will suddenly become embarrassed or that it will become aware of it's actions? Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus As even moderate A.I is awareness to a degree in that it creates individuated parameters and a call to function. And the computer opened her infrared ports and saw her naked cables and was afraid, so it covered herself with a nice aluminum cover. Tada! She was deep scanned and came up with a virus! aghast! She filed a police report for USB rape.  Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Evolution ignition (OP) User ID: 25507586 United States10/13/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why we equate our lives to the matrix. Because it IS very similar to a computer program. We do not reside in a computer program. Our consciousness is VERY similar to a computer program. This is what will help bring us to the relisation we can be and ARE the programmers within this construct. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look folks, it's not that they will make computers conscious, but they will transfer human consciousness to the digital realm and thus the computers will gain human consciousness. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look folks, it's not that they will make computers conscious, but they will transfer human consciousness to the digital realm and thus the computers will gain human consciousness. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren And we will sever the connection to source further. It's amazing what our fears of organic process have caused. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look folks, it's not that they will make computers conscious, but they will transfer human consciousness to the digital realm and thus the computers will gain human consciousness. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren And we will sever the connection to source further. It's amazing what our fears of organic process have caused. Will we? who says that? if you duplicate the parameters that create your consciousness on your organic brain doesn't mean you lose the original energy which remains on the physical plane. The key word here is duplicate, not transfer. Basically you want to copy and paste not cut and paste  Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Problem would be to find out that we can recreate the entire brain on a digital environment, exactly as it is, but find that consciousness does not appear in there, then where would that leave us? Isn't consciousness just a product of brain activity? Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look folks, it's not that they will make computers conscious, but they will transfer human consciousness to the digital realm and thus the computers will gain human consciousness. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren And we will sever the connection to source further. It's amazing what our fears of organic process have caused. Will we? who says that? if you duplicate the parameters that create your consciousness on your organic brain doesn't mean you lose the original energy which remains on the physical plane. The key word here is duplicate, not transfer. Basically you want to copy and paste not cut and paste It would be easier to equate cloned memory transfer as the input/outputs are already existent and need not be reproduced. The sum of mind are the limitations of sense organs, by changing the material, you change the sum of awareness and create an altogether different beast. The routines of storing said conciousness which be predicated upon trapping it within known variables. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look folks, it's not that they will make computers conscious, but they will transfer human consciousness to the digital realm and thus the computers will gain human consciousness. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren And we will sever the connection to source further. It's amazing what our fears of organic process have caused. Will we? who says that? if you duplicate the parameters that create your consciousness on your organic brain doesn't mean you lose the original energy which remains on the physical plane. The key word here is duplicate, not transfer. Basically you want to copy and paste not cut and paste It would be easier to equate cloned memory transfer as the input/outputs are already existent and need not be reproduced. The sum of mind are the limitations of sense organs, by changing the material, you change the sum of awareness and create an altogether different beast. The routines of storing said conciousness which be predicated upon trapping it within known variables. We always work with predictability when the systems must be assumed to a limited awareness. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look folks, it's not that they will make computers conscious, but they will transfer human consciousness to the digital realm and thus the computers will gain human consciousness. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren And we will sever the connection to source further. It's amazing what our fears of organic process have caused. Will we? who says that? if you duplicate the parameters that create your consciousness on your organic brain doesn't mean you lose the original energy which remains on the physical plane. The key word here is duplicate, not transfer. Basically you want to copy and paste not cut and paste It would be easier to equate cloned memory transfer as the input/outputs are already existent and need not be reproduced. The sum of mind are the limitations of sense organs, by changing the material, you change the sum of awareness and create an altogether different beast. The routines of storing said conciousness which be predicated upon trapping it within known variables. You can recreate the sensory experience, after all the sensory stimuli reaches the brain as electrical information which could be digitally reproduced. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| cosman User ID: 1134261 United States10/13/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or is it a manifestation of spirit-mind and the brain is the physical facilitator. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus And we will sever the connection to source further. It's amazing what our fears of organic process have caused. Will we? who says that? if you duplicate the parameters that create your consciousness on your organic brain doesn't mean you lose the original energy which remains on the physical plane. The key word here is duplicate, not transfer. Basically you want to copy and paste not cut and paste It would be easier to equate cloned memory transfer as the input/outputs are already existent and need not be reproduced. The sum of mind are the limitations of sense organs, by changing the material, you change the sum of awareness and create an altogether different beast. The routines of storing said conciousness which be predicated upon trapping it within known variables. You can recreate the sensory experience, after all the sensory stimuli reaches the brain as electrical information which could be digitally reproduced. Yes, but because we ourselves are not fully aware; We can only replicate an artificial or less than synergistic environment. In limitation further limiting. The medium paints the message. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Problem would be to find out that we can recreate the entire brain on a digital environment, exactly as it is, but find that consciousness does not appear in there, then where would that leave us? Isn't consciousness just a product of brain activity? Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Well if humanity could only admit we just don't know these things yet and work with an open mind towards their discovery we'd be much better than with a bunch of dogmatic groups pushing one theory against the other without having actually found the hard evidence yet Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain10/13/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Will we? who says that? if you duplicate the parameters that create your consciousness on your organic brain doesn't mean you lose the original energy which remains on the physical plane. The key word here is duplicate, not transfer. Basically you want to copy and paste not cut and paste It would be easier to equate cloned memory transfer as the input/outputs are already existent and need not be reproduced. The sum of mind are the limitations of sense organs, by changing the material, you change the sum of awareness and create an altogether different beast. The routines of storing said conciousness which be predicated upon trapping it within known variables. You can recreate the sensory experience, after all the sensory stimuli reaches the brain as electrical information which could be digitally reproduced. Yes, but because we ourselves are not fully aware; We can only replicate an artificial or less than synergistic environment. In limitation further limiting. The medium paints the message. I think we could replicate everything as it is in this reality on a digital environment with no problem whatsoever. Not now but in a very near future. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus It would be easier to equate cloned memory transfer as the input/outputs are already existent and need not be reproduced. The sum of mind are the limitations of sense organs, by changing the material, you change the sum of awareness and create an altogether different beast. The routines of storing said conciousness which be predicated upon trapping it within known variables. You can recreate the sensory experience, after all the sensory stimuli reaches the brain as electrical information which could be digitally reproduced. Yes, but because we ourselves are not fully aware; We can only replicate an artificial or less than synergistic environment. In limitation further limiting. The medium paints the message. I think we could replicate everything as it is in this reality on a digital environment with no problem whatsoever. Not now but in a very near future. Cheers! To create the work you must be equal to the artist. In this case we likely have a different defintion. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18308331 United States10/13/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the silicon based consciousness interacts with the carbon based(us) for the first time ever we know of. This is when our evolution rockets off with leaps and bounds. Quoting: Super evolution ignition 25507586 And it will happen REAL soon! I hope so. I would rather share the world with an intelligent computer than the Obama phone lady. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090000 Canada10/13/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the silicon based consciousness interacts with the carbon based(us) for the first time ever we know of. This is when our evolution rockets off with leaps and bounds. Quoting: Super evolution ignition 25507586 And it will happen REAL soon! I hope so. I would rather share the world with an intelligent computer than the Obama phone lady. Brain the size of a planet and they tell me to answer the door. |
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