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Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.

 
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Are there any reference about this on NASA site?




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 Quoting: DUCM900


yes. does google not work for you? how sad.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


How sad what?

there are lot of bullshit infos online, SO let me see the stuff on nasa site if that's so easy to find.

Otherwise also for you -----> cupofjoe



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SO, still yet, no one got a clue where to find that claim on nasa site?

..interesting.
 Quoting: DUCM900


ANYONE that can use google can find it. Sadly you aren't capable of doing anything for yourself.
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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
Anyone else out of that shill above doing dirt job on thread trolling around?
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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
still suffering from retarditus I see.
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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
SO, still yet, no one got a clue where to find that claim on nasa site?

..interesting.
 Quoting: DUCM900


[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

Took one click to find.
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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
BTW, technically no Apollo mission left the Earth's orbit.
Their target, the Moon, is after all in orbit around the Earth.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

..about what I wrote, I mean the imaginary line track out of the Earth's Atmosphere (in other words out of the Thermosphere).
 Quoting: DUCM900

It's called "an orbit".
The spacecraft in LEO alters its orbit into one that that intersects with the Moon's.

Astronautics: you don't know it.

That is a radiotelescope, darling.
Those are indeed good enough to tell if a signal is coming from a stationary point on the surface of the Moon, or from an object in orbit around the Moon.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

So what? they could not track anything? what are you talking about.
 Quoting: DUCM900

They could track it, and THEY DID.

That they didn't is yet an other one of the hoax-peddlers' lies that the gullible hoaxies believe without any critical thought.
Remarkable bunch of creduloids those hoaxies.

The evidence: you don't know it.

And another "Why X?" with X being a non-fact.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Don't you get tired of being so wrong all the time?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

whatever
 Quoting: DUCM900

Just as well, because you're so good at it.

shill
 Quoting: DUCM900

"Shill" is just GLP-speak for "person who has shown me wrong".

The camera was attached to the rover and remotely controlled by a guy named Ed Fendell in mission control.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Are there any reference about this on NASA site?
 Quoting: DUCM900

Apollo history: you don't know it.

The ability to do your own research: you don't have it.



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Okay, Im normally one to support this type of opinion in regaurds to the moon, however, that picture just made me laugh... literally. They are take at different angles, hence reflections in one, and not in the other. Notice the pic on the right has more "space" to the lefT? Different capture angles.
 Quoting: DUCM900

I know that, BUT where those "reflections" comes from?
 Quoting: DUCM900

The construction of the spacecraft: you don't know it.

(The triangular window isn't at a 90 degrees angle with the surface.)

Is there anything about Apollo that you do know?

Why are all hoaxies such complete ignorami?

What part of "why should I do your work for you" do you not understand? Especially when you try to insult everyone you disagree with? It is far more fun watching you avoid doing a simple google search anyway. Really exposes you for the troll you are.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

so DO IT Shill, F*** DO IT! EXPOSE ME.
 Quoting: DUCM900

You obviously need no help with that.
You expose your ignorance, and sheer unwillingness to learn anything, with every word you post.

It is something you have in common with all hoaxies.


And thanks for proving you can't even spell out your own argument.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

His argument seems to be "I would have..." AKA the "If I ran the zoo" argument.

Some people seem to be incapable of understanding that OTHER people might have different priorities.
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ANYONE that can use google can find it. Sadly you aren't capable of doing anything for yourself.
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shitstream fight shitstream
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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
hhhmmmm...not exactly proof of anything.
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Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29129726


not having a photo of the first step on the moon wouldnt prove the entire thing to be a hoax
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Interesting, so the men made a historical mission like that, took lots of stupid photos and NOT the first step on the moon?

Are u freaking kidding me?

whatever
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How exactly were they supposed to do that?

Are YOU freakin kidding me?!!!
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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
Mars distance Mar. 03, 2012 – 100.7 million km (62.6 million miles)

but no problem to get brilliant detailed photos

The average distance from Earth to Moon is 384,403 km (238,857 miles).

but all we get is this crap

[link to cumbriansky.files.wordpress.com]

OK, but I heard there are 12 monkeys ready to fly there and bring us some more rocks

5a another do
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Mars distance Mar. 03, 2012 – 100.7 million km (62.6 million miles)

but no problem to get brilliant detailed photos

The average distance from Earth to Moon is 384,403 km (238,857 miles).

but all we get is this crap

[link to cumbriansky.files.wordpress.com]
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 Quoting: Croatian Coward 29774557

Do you know what the word "resolution" (in optics) means?
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SO, still yet, no one got a clue where to find that claim on nasa site?

..interesting.
 Quoting: DUCM900


[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

Took one click to find.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183


Thanks but I know that page link, so what? did you find any reference on remote camera?
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Baby steps.

First get him to show the smallest object photographed on Mars (not by a lander, rover, or orbiter). He apparently has no idea what the scale of the features he may have seen is.


(seen..have..scale...is...? okay, grammar gives up and goes home for the day.)
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SO, still yet, no one got a clue where to find that claim on nasa site?

..interesting.
 Quoting: DUCM900


[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

Took one click to find.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183


Thanks but I know that page link, so what? did you find any reference on remote camera?
 Quoting: DUCM900


The phrase "Ground Controlled Television Assembly" didn't leap out at you?

In addition to being mentioned in about half the references linked by that page, there are several reports specifically on the control and a complete operations and check-out manual.
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SO, still yet, no one got a clue where to find that claim on nasa site?

..interesting.
 Quoting: DUCM900


[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

Took one click to find.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183


Thanks but I know that page link, so what? did you find any reference on remote camera?
 Quoting: DUCM900


The phrase "Ground Controlled Television Assembly" didn't leap out at you?

In addition to being mentioned in about half the references linked by that page, there are several reports specifically on the control and a complete operations and check-out manual.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183


You mean that? --> [link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

damned


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i dunno-MYTHBUSTERS pretty much laid that to rest
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those 2 raving ginger queers?

lol.

well that just proves the fake moon landing was real.
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SO not any type of exhaust plume. Why?


Also


No sand in the ground moving away from the LEM's bottom area when lifting off. Why?




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SO not any type of exhaust plume. Why?
 Quoting: DUCM900

the fuel used does not produce a visible plume in a vacuum.

Also


No sand in the ground moving away from the LEM's bottom area when lifting off. Why?




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All the thrust was concentrated on the descent stage (the part that was left behind). Why would the thrust then affect the ground?
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the fuel used does not produce a visible plume in a vacuum.

 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


WHY? which are the chemical elements as the result of the reaction stuff?

All the thrust was concentrated on the descent stage (the part that was left behind). Why would the thrust then affect the ground?
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Simply because there would be too much power released.



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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
the fuel used does not produce a visible plume in a vacuum.

 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


WHY? which are the chemical elements as the result of the reaction stuff?
 Quoting: DUCM900

Translation: google doesn't work for me so I have to ask others to do my work.

Because I'm feeling generous
[link to www.google.com]

The fuel used Aerozine 50 with nitrogen tetroxide as an oxidizer. there are other rockets that use the same fuel and those ALSO don't have a visible plume in a vacuum.
Explained in depth here
[link to www.clavius.org]

All the thrust was concentrated on the descent stage (the part that was left behind). Why would the thrust then affect the ground?
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Simply because there was too much power released.
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? It still doesn't make sense for the thrust to affect the ground. It was directed at the descent stage and deflected outward and upward. NONE of it towards the ground. Have you actually LOOKED at the liftoff?

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Stupid moon-hoaxtards. You're stupid. You're just stupid people who want to be contrary about something.

If the moon landing was a hoax, don't you think THE SOVIETS would have come out and said so in 1969 if they had even the SLIGHTEST SHRED OF EVIDENCE? They didn't. In fact, they accused the US of running a conspiracy to build a missile base on the moon to attack the USSR. Don't you think it would have been a much better tactic to try and get the world to believe the American capitalist pigs were lying about landing on the moon?
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Translation: google doesn't work for me so I have to ask others to do my work.

Because I'm feeling generous
[link to www.google.com]

The fuel used Aerozine 50 with nitrogen tetroxide as an oxidizer. there are other rockets that use the same fuel and those ALSO don't have a visible plume in a vacuum.
Explained in depth here
[link to www.clavius.org]


 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine




I asked for the chemical elements as the result of the reaction, NOT the primary elements.

Anyway you did not link NASA, you've just use google as a noob and then you picked up the crap that fit nice to you.

Are you freaking kidding me?




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Stupid moon-hoaxtards. You're stupid. You're just stupid people who want to be contrary about something.
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Thank you MrMr cruise
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I asked for the chemical elements as the result of the reaction, NOT the primary elements.

Anyway you did not link NASA, you've just use google as a noob and then you picked up the crap that fit nice to you.

Are you freaking kidding me?




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 Quoting: DUCM900

Translation: I'm too lazy to do the work myself so I'll complain about what you gave me.

I provided information about the fuel used and showed evidence that other rockets using the same fuel do not have visible plumes. If I had given the resultant chemical compounds I doubt you'd know what to do with it anyway (the products by the way are water vapor, nitrogen gas, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen gas and hydroxide).
[link to www.dtic.mil]

I gave you the answer you needed, not the answer you wanted. You'd realize that if you weren't too busy trolling.

If the information is correct, (it is but I'm betting you didn't even read it) then why does it matter what the source is?

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Re: Moon Hoax Proof: There is NOT a Single Photo of the First Step on the Moon.
The camera was already outside the LM on a platform called the "MESA" (Modularized Equipment Stowage Assembly). Before Armstrong climbed down the ladder, he pulled a ring that deployed the MESA and allowed the TV pictures to start.

(From the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal. Times are "Ground Elapsed Time"--GET is basically the mission time)

109:21:07 Aldrin: Did you get the MESA out?

109:21:09 Armstrong: I'm going to pull it now. (Pause)

[Neil is pulling the D-ring which releases the MESA, attached to the side of the LM under Buzz's station, and lets it swing down into an accessible position. Once down on the surface, he can adjust the MESA height if necessary.]

109:21:18 Armstrong: Houston, the MESA came down all right.

Also see [link to www.myspacemuseum.com]
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i dunno-MYTHBUSTERS pretty much laid that to rest
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29117977

those 2 raving ginger queers?

lol.

well that just proves the fake moon landing was real.
 Quoting: Aussie Moran 29345426

Classic ad hom. [link to yourlogicalfallacyis.com]
And the usual abominable logic.

For over 40 years hoaxies have produced vast amounts of hot air but not a single verifiable fact that indicates that their accusations are even remotely correct.

That doesn't proof them wrong, but it certainly proofs them irrelevant.



SO not any type of exhaust plume. Why?
 Quoting: DUCM900

What is a rocket plume, and what makes it visible?
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siren2 shill siren2

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Hey duc
Your shill stuff is getting old, and it is becoming apparent taht you have no argument aside from crying "shill". Just because someone knows more (a LOT more) than you do about Apollo.

You don't "know" anything about Apollo, or spaceflight in general. You just spout the hoax line, without knowing anything about the subject you "argue".

It makes you look silly...go play with your bike or something (just don't ride it, there are too many idiot bikers out there...)

Oh, I alos ride...
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Hey duc
Your shill stuff is getting old, and it is becoming apparent taht you have no argument aside from crying "shill". Just because someone knows more (a LOT more) than you do about Apollo.

You don't "know" anything about Apollo, or spaceflight in general. You just spout the hoax line, without knowing anything about the subject you "argue".

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whatever
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still suffering from retarditus I see.
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Who? whats your opinion, WHY there not a single photo of the first step on the moon?


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