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Manu-Koelbren  User ID: 1312616  Spain12/21/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 Thank you sir! Please, if they begin confiscation, lend us citizens a hand? Well if all of the authorities would be like you it'd be great, however if that'd be the case there wouldn't be swat teams helping banks foreclose homes, officers performing illegal cavity searches for littering nor cops going into people's houses and killing their dogs among a big list of etc. Unfortunately I don't think you're the rule here, most of the authorities will obey orders as they've been programmed to do. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031  Bahamas12/21/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 You better confiscate guns if you want a job |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023  Ireland12/21/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only reason its there is because the pr -gun propagandist put it there(Deep research of historical records can show you this) to try to replace the original second amendment which reads: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Really?REALLY??.. Ok how bout this you retated fuckstick. PROVE YOUR ASSERTION. LINKS RIGHT FUCKIN NOW! show us your "deep research" cocksucker. NOW! or shut the fuck up! Typical hillbilly to lazy to do anything ask any historian and they can show you the historical documents that confirm what I am saying How bout YOU show them fucktard?.. you wont because you cant. You should be banned. now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27997099  United Kingdom12/21/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30489425  United States12/21/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to caselaw.lp.findlaw.com] WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 Ireland12/21/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just give up your guns ,for the greater good of your country.You don't want more innocent to die Lets say the government does become a tyranny(which I highly doubt because Obama seems nice)even if you have your guns.Think about what the government has like drones ,nukes etc they have weapons that we would consider alien tech and your little guns won't do a thing against a drone a nuke,and missiles Did you hear that guys? We should give up our guns because Obama "seems nice", you present no logic in your arguments every valid point that counters you goes ignored, you haven't even provided a link which supports your bullshit interpretation of OUR 2nd amendment. And the cumstain wont... because he/she/it cannot. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17208041 United States12/21/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 You better confiscate guns if you want a job That's what you don't get. A job? Liberty vs. a job? Without Liberty, what good is a job? And, a job to support those who are destroying our Constitution? Without it, a job means nothing. Without it, "they" can do what ever they wish. Life is only lived "at their will". Stop trying to interpret what we ourselves understand because WE made it possible. STFU. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27997099 United Kingdom12/21/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 The only reason its there is because the pr -gun propagandist put it there(Deep research of historical records can show you this) to try to replace the original second amendment which reads: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Really?REALLY??.. Ok how bout this you retated fuckstick. PROVE YOUR ASSERTION. LINKS RIGHT FUCKIN NOW! show us your "deep research" cocksucker. NOW! or shut the fuck up! Typical hillbilly to lazy to do anything ask any historian and they can show you the historical documents that confirm what I am saying How bout YOU show them fucktard?.. you wont because you cant. You should be banned. now. That's your proof and there is plenty more |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually historians have researched and found the First Amendment is misquoted too,it actually said that Americans have the right of FRENCH speech. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27997099  so if you're not speaking in French folks watch what you say.Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 You better confiscate guns if you want a job That's what you don't get. A job? Liberty vs. a job? Without Liberty, what good is a job? And, a job to support those who are destroying our Constitution? Without it, a job means nothing. Without it, "they" can do what ever they wish. Life is only lived "at their will". Stop trying to interpret what we ourselves understand because WE made it possible. STFU. Sorry but YOU didn't make it possible, your ANCESTORS did, and your generation is NOTHING like your ancestor's. So if you want to repeat the feat better get back in shape, because with all the Obama minorities, fat Walmart lards and Liberal commie wannabees, I doubt you'd triumph like you did back then. And if you fall get ready for world domination by some very nasty individuals. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote: Quoting: Riverman 1487773 Why are there so many foreign fucks telling Americans what we need? Reaction: Because many of you americans are acting ignorant. It is ignorant to think that criminals guns will somehow vanish by having a politician sign a paper, THEY ILLEGALLY OWN GUNS, THEY ALWAYS WILL, WHY MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE CRIMINALS TO KILL WITH LESS DANGER. Please someone with logic explain why this doesn't make sense. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 Ireland12/21/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are lazy redneck hillbilly's who really dislike one poster from the Bahamas who keeps spouting off bullshit about our Constitution that has no merit, basis and is based on some make believe idea that the second amendment has been rewrote to say arms instead of armor. Get a clue you liberal lying douchebag. ARmory is where we keep our guns and armor is what we wore in midevil times. I have a original constitution that has been in my family for a very long long time and nowhere and I mean nowhere does it say or inferm what you are saying and yes I am a constitutional scholar and historian. Any other so called facts you like to bring up you fucktard. If not then GTFO and keep your fancy ideas to yourself and  barry, eric and janet.WAKE UP AMERICA .Gov paid propagandist. I have done incredibly detailed research into this.. our current second amendment was shortened from this: A well trained militia of the people, being necessary to the security of a free condition, the right of the People to keep and bear arms of all type,s shall not be infringed on by government for any reason whatsoever. to its current form. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29643034 yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. You're probably a negroe because you folks just love to twist and falsify history, for you it seems history is a malleable concept of sorts, clearly the fact that your ancestors didn't possess the written word a few hundreds of years back and relied on "oral tradition" must have something to do with it. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States12/21/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach The gun-grabbing whackjob set is so brainwashed and delusional, it's like a cult. Take the log out of your eye,your so blind and selfish you want to hold onto your guns even after 20 innocent children lost there lives last week. Had the 'shooter' had been wearing a belt of explosives like some terrorist suicide bomber the effect would have been the same or worse. What was done to kill is not even the issue, the fact that someone decided and successfully killed is the issue. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29643034 yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. Question, what about all the guns criminals already illegally own? Wont it make it easier for them to commit these mass murders with not as many responsible citizens carrying weapons around? Pro-gun control people seem to assume these guns will cease to exist, now explain that to me? Why is it on average that when a country imposes gun control that there violent crime rate increases? Its because criminals will always have the guns, and by imposing the gun control they will be the some of the few left with them... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 Ireland12/21/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach The gun-grabbing whackjob set is so brainwashed and delusional, it's like a cult. Take the log out of your eye,your so blind and selfish you want to hold onto your guns even after 20 innocent children lost there lives last week. Had the 'shooter' had been wearing a belt of explosives like some terrorist suicide bomber the effect would have been the same or worse. What was done to kill is not even the issue, the fact that someone decided and successfully killed is the issue. The issue is that no one had any means to stop him, that's the issue. You can't expect evil to stop existing in this world but you can prepare yourself to confront it. That's reality, but for commies reality is second to UTOPIA. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. You're probably a negroe because you folks just love to twist and falsify history, for you it seems history is a malleable concept of sorts, clearly the fact that your ancestors didn't possess the written word a few hundreds of years back and relied on "oral tradition" must have something to do with it. Ad hominem attacks won't work I gave you proof from contemporaries. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 Ireland12/21/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are lazy redneck hillbilly's who really dislike one poster from the Bahamas who keeps spouting off bullshit about our Constitution that has no merit, basis and is based on some make believe idea that the second amendment has been rewrote to say arms instead of armor. Get a clue you liberal lying douchebag. ARmory is where we keep our guns and armor is what we wore in midevil times. I have a original constitution that has been in my family for a very long long time and nowhere and I mean nowhere does it say or inferm what you are saying and yes I am a constitutional scholar and historian. Any other so called facts you like to bring up you fucktard. If not then GTFO and keep your fancy ideas to yourself and barry, eric and janet.WAKE UP AMERICA  You can ask any well respected historian and they will tell you the original documents say A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war and I have seen the original document myself You lying NRA shills Just because you keep repeating a fucking filthy lie does not mean it will magically come true you retarded fuck. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 Ireland12/21/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people.  fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken I am 57 miles from west end right now.. i should go strangle this fucking halfwit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are lazy redneck hillbilly's who really dislike one poster from the Bahamas who keeps spouting off bullshit about our Constitution that has no merit, basis and is based on some make believe idea that the second amendment has been rewrote to say arms instead of armor. Get a clue you liberal lying douchebag. ARmory is where we keep our guns and armor is what we wore in midevil times. I have a original constitution that has been in my family for a very long long time and nowhere and I mean nowhere does it say or inferm what you are saying and yes I am a constitutional scholar and historian. Any other so called facts you like to bring up you fucktard. If not then GTFO and keep your fancy ideas to yourself and barry, eric and janet.WAKE UP AMERICA You can ask any well respected historian and they will tell you the original documents say A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war and I have seen the original document myself You lying NRA shills Just because you keep repeating a fucking filthy lie does not mean it will magically come true you retarded fuck. Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. You're probably a negroe because you folks just love to twist and falsify history, for you it seems history is a malleable concept of sorts, clearly the fact that your ancestors didn't possess the written word a few hundreds of years back and relied on "oral tradition" must have something to do with it. Ad hominem attacks won't work I gave you proof from contemporaries. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. You're probably a negroe because you folks just love to twist and falsify history, for you it seems history is a malleable concept of sorts, clearly the fact that your ancestors didn't possess the written word a few hundreds of years back and relied on "oral tradition" must have something to do with it. Ad hominem attacks won't work I gave you proof from contemporaries. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. You're probably a negroe because you folks just love to twist and falsify history, for you it seems history is a malleable concept of sorts, clearly the fact that your ancestors didn't possess the written word a few hundreds of years back and relied on "oral tradition" must have something to do with it. Ad hominem attacks won't work I gave you proof from contemporaries. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that I presented my proof everybody is silent because they were in fact wrong. You're probably a negroe because you folks just love to twist and falsify history, for you it seems history is a malleable concept of sorts, clearly the fact that your ancestors didn't possess the written word a few hundreds of years back and relied on "oral tradition" must have something to do with it. Ad hominem attacks won't work I gave you proof from contemporaries. Honestly I don't even understand your "proof", you're so dense and obtuse quoting some passage from who knows what book, no one gives a fuck about your rhetoric, the fact that Americans have a long tradition of gun ownership approved by the founding fathers is not debatable, the issue here is how you lefties are trying to end this tradition as you are trying to end ALL traditions. It's clear by the current state of our societies that it is working oh SO well....  Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
