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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30941029 United States 12/27/2012 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are welcome 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29757648 Australia 12/27/2012 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AT THIS POINT THEY ARE GOING TO SAY WELL WE NOT UNDER MOSES LAW ANY MORE , YOU KNOW THE USUAL? WELL YOU TAKE THEM BACK TO MATT 5:17-26 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Are you saying Christians babies must be circumcised? Because the Law of Moses requires physical circumcision. 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. 3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. (Leviticus 12:2-3) |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30941029 United States 12/27/2012 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His guy is good. That's why the haters and so funny are the Christians , they hate this man because he says the truth 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30941029 United States 12/27/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AT THIS POINT THEY ARE GOING TO SAY WELL WE NOT UNDER MOSES LAW ANY MORE , YOU KNOW THE USUAL? WELL YOU TAKE THEM BACK TO MATT 5:17-26 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Are you saying Christians babies must be circumcised? Because the Law of Moses requires physical circumcision. 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. 3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. (Leviticus 12:2-3) takes all kinds to make up this world phhhhhhh! 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
UnmannedAerialPilot User ID: 18327004 France 12/27/2012 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1Corinthians 10 : 23 - 33 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25034849 23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth. 25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: 26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 27 If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. 28 But if any man say unto you, this is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: 29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? 30 For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? 31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: 33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved. don't you know I deliberately did not include this because I knew one of you will eventually bring it....So go back check your precepts before I show you how wrong you are. Well this is another verse they use so let us see who is Paul talking to? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Deut 32:17 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. AFTER THE GENTILES SACRIFICED THEIR ANIMALS TO THEIR GODS IN CORINTH IT WAS NORMAL FOR THEM TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE SHAMBLES AND SELL IT TO THE PUBLIC.PAUL WAS JUST MAKING THEM AWARE FOR CONCSIENCE DO NOT ASK. THESE SAINTS ALREADY KNEW THE DIETARY LAWS SO ALL PAUL WAS SAYING IS THE WHATSOEVER MEATS ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY ALREADYKNOW IS APPROVED BY GOD AS CLAEN EAT WITHOUT QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; SEE PAUL WAS TALKING TO HIS HEBREW BRETHREN WHO WERE CITIZENS OF CORINTH THEY HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT YEHSHIYE[JESUS] THE GENTILES FATHERS DID NOT COME FROM EGYPT WITH MOSES 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea Your obvious legalism signifies that you do NOT know who Jesus is. You really think He is just sitting around with a hammer and bolt of lightening waiting to crush and zap anyone that eats a hot dog?! Sad man, the commandments Jesus actually gave us to follow are hard enough to not break, you legalists and quasi-Hebrews just add unnecessary burden. Paul said it in 1 corinthians plain as day and your interpretation is very weak. "I left this out intentionally..." nice try you are simply in error. Jesus LOVES His elect children not because of what we eat, but because we are His and it is a love that passes all understanding and cannot change or be lost. I hope the Spirit of Truth will show you this grave mistake. |
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Shamar User ID: 24946868 United States 12/27/2012 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a lobster is so unclean than why can we drink milk from cows tits? Meant for the baby cows!! Quoting: krosty All meat is bad for human health. So is dairy. 2 out of 10 are lactose intolerant. It's meant for infants sucking it from their moms tit. That is clean. Yes we're evolved to survive off almost anything, thus how fat America has become. Why save the dirty animals from brutal unnecessary slaughter? I haven't touched meat or dairy or fish in 12 years so I'll have the highest place in heaven possible. this is not about being vegetarian,did you read at all? well, i have comments........but i probably shouldn't stir the pot........too much meat in there. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 15:11 "What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'" Quoting: Lisa*Lisa you did not read the thread that is already addressed BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN LISA HMMmmmmnn THEY ARE THINKING; "WELL HE GOT ME"! SO THEY TAKE YOU TO ANOTHER ONE MATTHEW 15 11 .11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. NOW HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THIS? HE THINK HE GOT YOU ON THIS! WELL AGAIN YOU TAKE HIM TO MARK THE 7 CHAPTER TO LET MESSIAH EXPLAIN IT SIMPLE AND NICE..THIS ACCUSATION CAME BECAUSE THE DISCIPLES DID NOT WASH THEIR HANDS BEFORE EATING SO THE LAW MAKERS WERE ALL OVER MESSIAH ABOUT IT 3For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. 4And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables. 5Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? 18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. RIGHT ABOUT HERE THEY ARE GETTING A LITTLE ANGRY WITH YOU SO THEY TAKE YOU TO ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THEY THINK NOW "I GOT HIM NOW" YES THEY TAKE YOU TO 1ST TIMOTHY CHAPTER 4 1-4.YOU ARE STARTING TO QUIVER HER BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD ONE.HERE THEY LAY IT THICK ON YOU AND HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS? Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 10:06 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Titus 1:15 " To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure." Quoting: Lisa*Lisa So eat your son when he comes home later! Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 10:09 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks OP for the teaching. I personally made a decision years ago to not eat Pork. This confuses people, but since I don't try to force anyone else to live to my standards, they generally are ok with it. Quoting: samanthasunflower thank you these people think this is an attack on christianity and it is an awakening to better health. THESE ANIMALS BY NATURE ARE SCAVENGERS MADE BY GOD FOR THAT PURPOSE. "YES THEY WERE MADE PURE BUT FOR THEIR PURPOSE TO CLEAN THE EARTH" 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/27/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1Corinthians 10 : 23 - 33 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25034849 23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth. 25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: 26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 27 If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. 28 But if any man say unto you, this is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: 29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? 30 For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? 31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: 33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved. don't you know I deliberately did not include this because I knew one of you will eventually bring it....So go back check your precepts before I show you how wrong you are. Well this is another verse they use so let us see who is Paul talking to? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Deut 32:17 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. AFTER THE GENTILES SACRIFICED THEIR ANIMALS TO THEIR GODS IN CORINTH IT WAS NORMAL FOR THEM TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE SHAMBLES AND SELL IT TO THE PUBLIC.PAUL WAS JUST MAKING THEM AWARE FOR CONCSIENCE DO NOT ASK. THESE SAINTS ALREADY KNEW THE DIETARY LAWS SO ALL PAUL WAS SAYING IS THE WHATSOEVER MEATS ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY ALREADYKNOW IS APPROVED BY GOD AS CLAEN EAT WITHOUT QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; SEE PAUL WAS TALKING TO HIS HEBREW BRETHREN WHO WERE CITIZENS OF CORINTH THEY HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT YEHSHIYE[JESUS] THE GENTILES FATHERS DID NOT COME FROM EGYPT WITH MOSES 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea Your obvious legalism signifies that you do NOT know who Jesus is. You really think He is just sitting around with a hammer and bolt of lightening waiting to crush and zap anyone that eats a hot dog?! Sad man, the commandments Jesus actually gave us to follow are hard enough to not break, you legalists and quasi-Hebrews just add unnecessary burden. Paul said it in 1 corinthians plain as day and your interpretation is very weak. "I left this out intentionally..." nice try you are simply in error. Jesus LOVES His elect children not because of what we eat, but because we are His and it is a love that passes all understanding and cannot change or be lost. I hope the Spirit of Truth will show you this grave mistake. +1000000 |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks OP for the teaching. I personally made a decision years ago to not eat Pork. This confuses people, but since I don't try to force anyone else to live to my standards, they generally are ok with it. Quoting: samanthasunflower thank you these people think this is an attack on christianity and it is an awakening to better health. THESE ANIMALS BY NATURE ARE SCAVENGERS MADE BY GOD FOR THAT PURPOSE. "YES THEY WERE MADE PURE BUT FOR THEIR PURPOSE TO CLEAN THE EARTH" You mad Lisa Aand using another unlearned person thread to show your ignorance Well this is another verse they use so let us see who is Paul talking to? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Deut 32:17 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. AFTER THE GENTILES SACRIFICED THEIR ANIMALS TO THEIR GODS IN CORINTH IT WAS NORMAL FOR THEM TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE SHAMBLES AND SELL IT TO THE PUBLIC.PAUL WAS JUST MAKING THEM AWARE FOR CONCSIENCE DO NOT ASK. THESE SAINTS ALREADY KNEW THE DIETARY LAWS SO ALL PAUL WAS SAYING IS THE WHATSOEVER MEATS ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY ALREADYKNOW IS APPROVED BY GOD AS CLAEN EAT WITHOUT QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; SEE PAUL WAS TALKING TO HIS HEBREW BRETHREN WHO WERE CITIZENS OF CORINTH THEY HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT YEHSHIYE[JESUS] THE GENTILES FATHERS DID NOT COME FROM EGYPT WITH MOSES 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 10:36 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/27/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of he earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean." And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again." Acts 10:9-16 NKJV No Neim, I"m not mad, just tired of you putting out misinformation like you do here on a regular basis, things you do not understand while you condem those of us who do understand. The dietary rules were not about meats, they were about people. Again, the lesser and greater fulfillment of prophecy. Meats were symbolic of people. After Jesus came, it's no longer valid because He made us all on the same level............again you won't understand. |
Let us reason User ID: 20621784 United States 12/27/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The issue with any religious discussion revolves around the inability to understand the physical from the spiritual. And while there is no doubt they both have effects on one another, we must be aware of their position in creating a true understanding. Just because a person is a follower of YHVH/Yeshua/bible doesn't mean they are exempt from gravity. I use it as an example since we are all subject to it regardless of religion or refusal of one. A Christian or Jew and an atheist fall off a ledge. They hit with equal force and consequence. Within the teaching of what foods to eat, the same really applies. If you believe in the Creator having made everything, you must also realize that each thing was made with a purpose. And even if a person is secular, the truth remains that the food chain and ecological system is very exact. Certain creatures serve a purpose. These purposes rely on certain biological structures in order to function in the ecosystem. So whether you are a believer or a non-believer, science demonstrates the accuracy of what Leviticus outlines. The creatures that are not to be eaten are those which have eating habits and biology that yield poisonous flesh. This is great as they are responsible for preventing the spread of disease. So regardless of religion, like gravity, everyone must be aware of the negative effects of eating unclean food. Does it always show up instantly? No, but there have been multiple studies that show how certain groups that don't eat pig, shellfish, etc. have dramatically lower incidences of illness. And it is proven that unclean foods are the primary source of all the major food related sickness, disease and death. Coincidence? Nonbelievers should think about the amazing knowledge about this subject in the bible. For believers, pigs didn't change at the resurrection. |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of he earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean." And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again." Acts 10:9-16 NKJV Quoting: Lisa*Lisa No Neim, I"m not mad, just tired of you putting out misinformation like you do here on a regular basis, things you do not understand while you condem those of us who do understand. The dietary rules were not about meats, they were about people. Again, the lesser and greater fulfillment of prophecy. Meats were symbolic of people. After Jesus came, it's no longer valid because He made us all on the same level............again you won't understand. FAIL AGAIN LISA -F NOW THAT THEY MADE THEIR POINT YOU MAKE YOUR POINT NOW BY TAKING THEM FURTHER INTO THE CHAPTER AND DON'T LET THEM INTERRUPT YOU WHILE YOU POINT OUT THE REASON FOR PETER'S VISION.YOU TAKE THEM TO VERSE 25-29 17Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate 25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. 27And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. 28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. 29Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? NOW AFTER READING TO THEM YOU EXPLAIN THAT PETERS VISION HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EATING FLESH BUT BECAUSE LONG AGO IT WAS NOT RIGHT THAT A HEBREW SIT WITH A GENTILE THEY WERE CONSIDERED UNCLEN.bUT THE FATHER FOUND CORNELIUS TO BE A JUST MAN.PETER UNDERSTOOD THE VISION THERE AND THEN AS WE CAN SEE. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 11:03 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul = Saul the fake jew convert out of convenience. Made it up as he went along to suit his needs. Ala "Mohamedd"... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6932576 People don't understand the writings because he wrote to men who understood the law, so it is very hard to follow as a regular citizen who is just learning,These were letters not gospels to the higher orders 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/27/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of he earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean." And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again." Acts 10:9-16 NKJV Quoting: Lisa*Lisa No Neim, I"m not mad, just tired of you putting out misinformation like you do here on a regular basis, things you do not understand while you condem those of us who do understand. The dietary rules were not about meats, they were about people. Again, the lesser and greater fulfillment of prophecy. Meats were symbolic of people. After Jesus came, it's no longer valid because He made us all on the same level............again you won't understand. FAIL AGAIN LISA -F :l.hgy: NOW THAT THEY MADE THEIR POINT YOU MAKE YOUR POINT NOW BY TAKING THEM FURTHER INTO THE CHAPTER AND DON'T LET THEM INTERRUPT YOU WHILE YOU POINT OUT THE REASON FOR PETER'S VISION.YOU TAKE THEM TO VERSE 25-29 17Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate 25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. 27And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. 28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. 29Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? NOW AFTER READING TO THEM YOU EXPLAIN THAT PETERS VISION HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EATING FLESH BUT BECAUSE LONG AGO IT WAS NOT RIGHT THAT A HEBREW SIT WITH A GENTILE THEY WERE CONSIDERED UNCLEN.bUT THE FATHER FOUND CORNELIUS TO BE A JUST MAN.PETER UNDERSTOOD THE VISION THERE AND THEN AS WE CAN SEE. The gentile is no longer unclean, and neither is the meat. You're not getting it. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 30953870 United States 12/27/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of he earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean." And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again." Acts 10:9-16 NKJV Quoting: Lisa*Lisa No Neim, I"m not mad, just tired of you putting out misinformation like you do here on a regular basis, things you do not understand while you condem those of us who do understand. The dietary rules were not about meats, they were about people. Again, the lesser and greater fulfillment of prophecy. Meats were symbolic of people. After Jesus came, it's no longer valid because He made us all on the same level............again you won't understand. FAIL AGAIN LISA -F NOW THAT THEY MADE THEIR POINT YOU MAKE YOUR POINT NOW BY TAKING THEM FURTHER INTO THE CHAPTER AND DON'T LET THEM INTERRUPT YOU WHILE YOU POINT OUT THE REASON FOR PETER'S VISION.YOU TAKE THEM TO VERSE 25-29 17Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate 25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. 27And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. 28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. 29Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? NOW AFTER READING TO THEM YOU EXPLAIN THAT PETERS VISION HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EATING FLESH BUT BECAUSE LONG AGO IT WAS NOT RIGHT THAT A HEBREW SIT WITH A GENTILE THEY WERE CONSIDERED UNCLEN.bUT THE FATHER FOUND CORNELIUS TO BE A JUST MAN.PETER UNDERSTOOD THE VISION THERE AND THEN AS WE CAN SEE. The gentile is no longer unclean, and neither is the meat. You're not getting it. EPIC FAIL AGAIN AND TRYING TO SWAY MY THREAD -F 2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth. 3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is cloven-footed, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat. 4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. 8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. 9These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. 10And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: 11They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcasses in abomination. 12Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. 13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, 14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; 15Every raven after his kind; READ THE REST OF THIS CHAPTER PLEASE AT THIS POINT THEY ARE GOING TO SAY WELL WE NOT UNDER MOSES LAW ANY MORE , YOU KNOW THE USUAL? WELL YOU TAKE THEM BACK TO MATT 5:17-26 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. IF YOU SENSE A SPIRIT OF REBELLION FROM THERE ON, KNOCK THE DUST OF YOUR FEET AND DON'T WISH THEM GOD SPEED Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 11:19 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Let us reason User ID: 20621784 United States 12/27/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again, there are two issues here. What is unclean spiritually and physically. The physical did not ever change. Unclean animals NEVER made a physiological change at the cross. Pigs and shellfish are still dirty. They were deemed unclean because they will cause disease in humans and ultimately defile one's body regardless of how spiritual you are. The physical laws of this life do not change. The ultimate issue is the rebellious heart of man not wanting to divide good instruction. Remember, the first sin was not obeying a dietary law. Chew on that. |
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