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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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haha you cant stop us.

people will resist, people will die but in the end they will accept the ONLY choice...
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Nowadays we are talking about a trick: the one trillion coin cleverness, to bypass the senate and the house, in order to avoid fiscal cliff part XX.

So, running a country, governing people, families, working people with a fucking life, needs now tricks and deception, miracles, out of the hat white rabbits ???

What do they think they are playing with ?

I remember a time, when hard work and modesty, values, convictions and a believe into a brighter future for our kids, kept us going, working, building, being innovative. I rembember also a time, when bible had a value in society.

What is the conclusion TODAY ?

Any thoughts ??

Anything smart, so I do not completly loose the belief in our western world ?
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Hey, aTon! You know, it all comes back to the individual. We all have to stand for our beliefs and what we know is right. Whether people want to admit it or not, we ALL know right from wrong. It's up to us, individually, to remember that and STAND. If enough of us actually grow a spine and do that, "they" will find themselves against a brick wall.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Nowadays we are talking about a trick: the one trillion coin cleverness, to bypass the senate and the house, in order to avoid fiscal cliff part XX.

So, running a country, governing people, families, working people with a fucking life, needs now tricks and deception, miracles, out of the hat white rabbits ???

What do they think they are playing with ?

I remember a time, when hard work and modesty, values, convictions and a believe into a brighter future for our kids, kept us going, working, building, being innovative. I rembember also a time, when bible had a value in society.

What is the conclusion TODAY ?

Any thoughts ??

Anything smart, so I do not completly loose the belief in our western world ?
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I say always, "you", but in that "you" my own turf is include.

Anything smart, so I do not completly loose the belief in our western world ?
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Hey, aTon! You know, it all comes back to the individual. We all have to stand for our beliefs and what we know is right. Whether people want to admit it or not, we ALL know right from wrong. It's up to us, individually, to remember that and STAND. If enough of us actually grow a spine and do that, "they" will find themselves against a brick wall.
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Hey Texan Buckeye, thanks for this. We have to live our life right and when we stand up for it, it will be ok. For the other things our father will be in responsible ?
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Hey, aTon! You know, it all comes back to the individual. We all have to stand for our beliefs and what we know is right. Whether people want to admit it or not, we ALL know right from wrong. It's up to us, individually, to remember that and STAND. If enough of us actually grow a spine and do that, "they" will find themselves against a brick wall.
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Hey Texan Buckeye, thanks for this. We have to live our life right and when we stand up for it, it will be ok. For the other things our father will be in responsible ?
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I think so, my friend. All we can do is do what is right and teach our kids that, too.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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I think so, my friend. All we can do is do what is right and teach our kids that, too.
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And everything else goes to hell, we don't care ? We live like the mennonites, nothing seen, no action, no cards in the play ?

No, it is us, who is responsible. We need to do something and let god sort it out. If we don't stand up for our freedom, god won't either. Only those, who do and stand for liberty, equality and equal among all the men, god will help.
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I think so, my friend. All we can do is do what is right and teach our kids that, too.
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And everything else goes to hell, we don't care ? We live like the mennonites, nothing seen, no action, no cards in the play ?

No, it is us, who is responsible. We need to do something and let god sort it out. If we don't stand up for our freedom, god won't either. Only those, who do and stand for liberty, equality and equal among all the men, god will help.
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Oh, no, darlin'. ALWAYS care, ALWAYS! I know my answer sounded simple, but it isn't. Standing for your beliefs is NEVER simple. It's hard. There will be a time when action is called for, but in the mean time, we have to decide where OUR line in the sand is. We have to decide how far we can bend. Once we do all that and when we get to that point, THEN, is the time to act. Does that make sense?

Any time there is a committee, there is indecision. I've been a part of organizations that are supposed to support veterans, but the only people they actually support is themselves. People have changed over time and not always for the better. If we don't stand for what we know to be right, as individuals, how can we hope to change the groups?
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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The russians don't want peace, because their ally was attacked by a joint venture gulf states and terrorists and western forces.

They stand their ground. And there is no sign that Assad will fall, or is about to fall. All the contrary is the case.

The russians stand with their allies.
___________________________________________

With whom do we stand:

1) with salafist terrorists in Syria, who officially have the right from a saudi cleric to rape 14 years old girls (called a marriage for an hour)

2) with Morsi muslim brotherhood nazi like organisations,

3) with saudis and gulf states, who spread their religious venom all over the planet including your state, with the help of petrol dollars we give them.

4) with the black turbans in Iran, with whom we talk, secret talks, open talks, since they took the ambassy, since they murdered 200 marines in Beirut, the Khobar towers, the vessel, the argentinia embassy ...

official talks, unofficial talks, backdoor talks, high end talks, direct talks ... we talk.

with whom we do not stand:

with the kurds, who have no country and are suppressed

with the tibetians, who were invaded in the 50ies and their religious leader is on the run

with the people in africa, dying of hunger and diseases

with the people in our own western states, being victims of a out of control banking system, who seems to drag us deeper and deeper in a shit hole.
_________________________________________
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We do not have the right to do that, neither the people would want it, neither it is a right thing to do. That is comon sense.
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The russians don't want peace, because their ally was attacked by a joint venture gulf states and terrorists and western forces.

They stand their ground. And there is no sign that Assad will fall, or is about to fall. All the contrary is the case.

The russians stand with their allies.
___________________________________________

With whom do we stand:

1) with salafist terrorists in Syria, who officially have the right from a saudi cleric to rape 14 years old girls (called a marriage for an hour)

2) with Morsi muslim brotherhood nazi like organisations,

3) with saudis and gulf states, who spread their religious venom all over the planet including your state, with the help of petrol dollars we give them.

4) with the black turbans in Iran, with whom we talk, secret talks, open talks, since they took the ambassy, since they murdered 200 marines in Beirut, the Khobar towers, the vessel, the argentinia embassy ...

official talks, unofficial talks, backdoor talks, high end talks, direct talks ... we talk.

with whom we do not stand:

with the kurds, who have no country and are suppressed

with the tibetians, who were invaded in the 50ies and their religious leader is on the run

with the people in africa, dying of hunger and diseases

with the people in our own western states, being victims of a out of control banking system, who seems to drag us deeper and deeper in a shit hole.
_________________________________________
 Quoting: ^àTOn^



We do not have the right to do that, neither the people would want it, neither it is a right thing to do. That is comon sense.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


This is why we're all here, at this time. Turning the light on to expose the darkness that is all of our governments. Some to expose, others to learn. The time is coming, aTon. It's not enough to be prepared physically, we have to prepare mentally and spiritually, too.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Nowadays we are talking about a trick: the one trillion coin cleverness, to bypass the senate and the house, in order to avoid fiscal cliff part XX.

So, running a country, governing people, families, working people with a fucking life, needs now tricks and deception, miracles, out of the hat white rabbits ???

What do they think they are playing with ?

I remember a time, when hard work and modesty, values, convictions and a believe into a brighter future for our kids, kept us going, working, building, being innovative. I rembember also a time, when bible had a value in society.

What is the conclusion TODAY ?

Any thoughts ??

Anything smart, so I do not completly loose the belief in our western world ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


That is direct betrayal of their own people. In old times, that is worthy to hang the gambler.

The economy is the economy. People work in the economy. A value is created, if you build a car and it is sold.

A coin, does not create any value. Even for a politician to think about that, makes him a criminal, in my eyes.

A money in a society, reflects the value of the economic output. Thats healthy.

If we do coins now, that means we are on the brink, we search the white rabbit, if we do not find it ..., the white rabbit was the last bullet.
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The russians don't want peace, because their ally was attacked by a joint venture gulf states and terrorists and western forces.

They stand their ground. And there is no sign that Assad will fall, or is about to fall. All the contrary is the case.

The russians stand with their allies.
___________________________________________

With whom do we stand:

1) with salafist terrorists in Syria, who officially have the right from a saudi cleric to rape 14 years old girls (called a marriage for an hour)

2) with Morsi muslim brotherhood nazi like organisations,

3) with saudis and gulf states, who spread their religious venom all over the planet including your state, with the help of petrol dollars we give them.

4) with the black turbans in Iran, with whom we talk, secret talks, open talks, since they took the ambassy, since they murdered 200 marines in Beirut, the Khobar towers, the vessel, the argentinia embassy ...

official talks, unofficial talks, backdoor talks, high end talks, direct talks ... we talk.

with whom we do not stand:

with the kurds, who have no country and are suppressed

with the tibetians, who were invaded in the 50ies and their religious leader is on the run

with the people in africa, dying of hunger and diseases

with the people in our own western states, being victims of a out of control banking system, who seems to drag us deeper and deeper in a shit hole.
_________________________________________
 Quoting: ^àTOn^



We do not have the right to do that, neither the people would want it, neither it is a right thing to do. That is comon sense.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


This is why we're all here, at this time. Turning the light on to expose the darkness that is all of our governments. Some to expose, others to learn. The time is coming, aTon. It's not enough to be prepared physically, we have to prepare mentally and spiritually, too.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye



The light is rare. It is very absent. Actually it is not very existant.

Everybody is very friendly at the supermarket checkout, where you have to pay, but that is thin ice. When they go in for the solds, they would beat each other for a pair of socks.
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The russians don't want peace, because their ally was attacked by a joint venture gulf states and terrorists and western forces.

They stand their ground. And there is no sign that Assad will fall, or is about to fall. All the contrary is the case.

The russians stand with their allies.
___________________________________________

With whom do we stand:

1) with salafist terrorists in Syria, who officially have the right from a saudi cleric to rape 14 years old girls (called a marriage for an hour)

2) with Morsi muslim brotherhood nazi like organisations,

3) with saudis and gulf states, who spread their religious venom all over the planet including your state, with the help of petrol dollars we give them.

4) with the black turbans in Iran, with whom we talk, secret talks, open talks, since they took the ambassy, since they murdered 200 marines in Beirut, the Khobar towers, the vessel, the argentinia embassy ...

official talks, unofficial talks, backdoor talks, high end talks, direct talks ... we talk.

with whom we do not stand:

with the kurds, who have no country and are suppressed

with the tibetians, who were invaded in the 50ies and their religious leader is on the run

with the people in africa, dying of hunger and diseases

with the people in our own western states, being victims of a out of control banking system, who seems to drag us deeper and deeper in a shit hole.
_________________________________________
 Quoting: ^àTOn^



We do not have the right to do that, neither the people would want it, neither it is a right thing to do. That is comon sense.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


This is why we're all here, at this time. Turning the light on to expose the darkness that is all of our governments. Some to expose, others to learn. The time is coming, aTon. It's not enough to be prepared physically, we have to prepare mentally and spiritually, too.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye



The light is rare. It is very absent. Actually it is not very existant.

Everybody is very friendly at the supermarket checkout, where you have to pay, but that is thin ice. When they go in for the solds, they would beat each other for a pair of socks.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


That may be true, but think what it would be like if we all just gave up. Then, there would be NO light. It may be dim right now, but I think there are more good people than appears. Maybe I'm being a pollyanna, but I hope not. I HAVE to believe there is still good in this world. If I didn't, I couldn't go on. There would be no worth in life. Remember the saying, "It's always darkest before the dawn". I KNOW that it is true. The light is there, it's up to us to keep it in sight. I really believe that.
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The russians don't want peace, because their ally was attacked by a joint venture gulf states and terrorists and western forces.

They stand their ground. And there is no sign that Assad will fall, or is about to fall. All the contrary is the case.

The russians stand with their allies.
___________________________________________

With whom do we stand:

1) with salafist terrorists in Syria, who officially have the right from a saudi cleric to rape 14 years old girls (called a marriage for an hour)

2) with Morsi muslim brotherhood nazi like organisations,

3) with saudis and gulf states, who spread their religious venom all over the planet including your state, with the help of petrol dollars we give them.

4) with the black turbans in Iran, with whom we talk, secret talks, open talks, since they took the ambassy, since they murdered 200 marines in Beirut, the Khobar towers, the vessel, the argentinia embassy ...

official talks, unofficial talks, backdoor talks, high end talks, direct talks ... we talk.

with whom we do not stand:

with the kurds, who have no country and are suppressed

with the tibetians, who were invaded in the 50ies and their religious leader is on the run

with the people in africa, dying of hunger and diseases

with the people in our own western states, being victims of a out of control banking system, who seems to drag us deeper and deeper in a shit hole.
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 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Question to all the military people out there:

After reading my posts:

Why do you choose to fight ? And what for ?

What do you protect ?

And if you protect something, how do you protect it by fighting ?

And if you do not agree with my posts, why don't you answer ??

do you have an answer ??????????????????

:Hi_1:
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humans are replaceable.

we fight for maintaining our power.

humans will do everything we desire...
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That may be true, but think what it would be like if we all just gave up. Then, there would be NO light. It may be dim right now, but I think there are more good people than appears. Maybe I'm being a pollyanna, but I hope not. I HAVE to believe there is still good in this world. If I didn't, I couldn't go on. There would be no worth in life. Remember the saying, "It's always darkest before the dawn". I KNOW that it is true. The light is there, it's up to us to keep it in sight. I really believe that.
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It is darker than you think.

If people beat themselves at the gate of a supermarket for a pair of socks, when they are hungry and there are no socks anymore, they do anything.

Keep the light up, let it shine. There is a very thin layer of "society" and "rules" to keep the insanity away.

This layer is shrinking. Rapidly.
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That may be true, but think what it would be like if we all just gave up. Then, there would be NO light. It may be dim right now, but I think there are more good people than appears. Maybe I'm being a pollyanna, but I hope not. I HAVE to believe there is still good in this world. If I didn't, I couldn't go on. There would be no worth in life. Remember the saying, "It's always darkest before the dawn". I KNOW that it is true. The light is there, it's up to us to keep it in sight. I really believe that.
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It is darker than you think.

If people beat themselves at the gate of a supermarket for a pair of socks, when they are hungry and there are no socks anymore, they do anything.

Keep the light up, let it shine. There is a very thin layer of "society" and "rules" to keep the insanity away.

This layer is shrinking. Rapidly.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


You're right. Anarchy is coming, already here, in some places. If I am the only person still shining, so be it. I found my line years ago. I know where it is and I'm very close to it now. I refuse to let MY light go out.

Years ago, I refused to get my daughter a Cabbage Patch Doll when a pregnant mom was trampled. Over a stupid toy. That scenario has been played out over and over again. There have always been greedy, stupid people out there, there always will. Right and wrong haven't changed, just people's perception of it has. I may not survive, but right will ALWAYS survive. Not what TPTB say is right, the REAL right.
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That may be true, but think what it would be like if we all just gave up. Then, there would be NO light. It may be dim right now, but I think there are more good people than appears. Maybe I'm being a pollyanna, but I hope not. I HAVE to believe there is still good in this world. If I didn't, I couldn't go on. There would be no worth in life. Remember the saying, "It's always darkest before the dawn". I KNOW that it is true. The light is there, it's up to us to keep it in sight. I really believe that.
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It is darker than you think.

If people beat themselves at the gate of a supermarket for a pair of socks, when they are hungry and there are no socks anymore, they do anything.

Keep the light up, let it shine. There is a very thin layer of "society" and "rules" to keep the insanity away.

This layer is shrinking. Rapidly.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


There is light on this earth. This light is god endless work, to make light out of darkness.

Now we go there with drones, mass bombings, phosphorous bombs, killings, colleteral demage, and the light is getting dimmer. When they get out the light might be brighter than before, but that is not sure.

Now where is this light in the US ? It is there, I know. There was much more light 40 years ago than today. Thats for sure.
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There is light on this earth. This light is god endless work, to make light out of darkness.

Now we go there with drones, mass bombings, phosphorous bombs, killings, colleteral demage, and the light is getting dimmer. When they get out the light might be brighter than before, but that is not sure.

Now where is this light in the US ? It is there, I know. There was much more light 40 years ago than today. Thats for sure.
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All those men come back from war, and that since 60 years.

America was the working horse in the "western world" to spread and be light.

We in Europe, if you fail, I am not sure that the institutions would last, I could imagine another EU war in the long run, or a strong man, unifying everything. I don't know. Normaly the north would side with russia and the south would gonna be I don't know with whom.

Normally, there will be a pole around Germany, perhaps with France and Poland, and an alignement with russia.
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Years ago, I refused to get my daughter a Cabbage Patch Doll when a pregnant mom was trampled. Over a stupid toy. That scenario has been played out over and over again. There have always been greedy, stupid people out there, there always will. Right and wrong haven't changed, just people's perception of it has. I may not survive, but right will ALWAYS survive. Not what TPTB say is right, the REAL right.
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People are more and more confused, because right and wrong has changed the perception.

Right slowly becomes wrong, and wrong slowly becomes wright. It will never become right.

We are living in a completly insane world, and talking to an elderly neighbour, who makes his garden, does not make it better.

Everything is changing, other things are getting clearer.
We are changing to another age. Things will disappear, others will appear.
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Years ago, I refused to get my daughter a Cabbage Patch Doll when a pregnant mom was trampled. Over a stupid toy. That scenario has been played out over and over again. There have always been greedy, stupid people out there, there always will. Right and wrong haven't changed, just people's perception of it has. I may not survive, but right will ALWAYS survive. Not what TPTB say is right, the REAL right.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


People are more and more confused, because right and wrong has changed the perception.

Right slowly becomes wrong, and wrong slowly becomes wright. It will never become right.

We are living in a completly insane world, and talking to an elderly neighbour, who makes his garden, does not make it better.

Everything is changing, other things are getting clearer.
We are changing to another age. Things will disappear, others will appear.
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But we have time ... some time. We will do it .. in time. We have watches to catch time. Seconds, minutes, hours ... .

There is no time. There is no time. NO, there is no time.
Time is conception on this earth in alignment with night and sunrise and gravity.

On other planets, 1000 years on this earth is considered a "day".

We are just very small on this earth, and in all of our nothingness as we are, we behave worse than our animals, our co citizen we tend to exterminate for various reasons.

Thats called Humam. Say it out loud: H U M A N .

Lets cry it: H U M A N .

But ahh we are all equal and we are supposed to love each other

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Well if the wolf is out of town, cats are dancing on the stairs:


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Well bonne nuit.
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Aton: you speak of a better time in the recent past, but the time shortly before were savage, dark, evil. Put not you trust in men. The veneer of civilization can disappear at any moment
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Re: WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)
DAMASCUS, (SANA) – President Bashar al-Assad will deliver a speech on Sunday on the latest developments in Syria and the region.

The last speech is of this summer, and in this occasion, SANA news channel has wrote the same message WITHOUT "the region".
This "the region" is very strange...
What do you think?
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Link: [link to www.sana-syria.com]
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