Heaven or Hell? You choose

what an utter pile of BS. God does not behave in this way, period.

What do you consider reality?

What evidence do you have that hell is real?

Let me suggest that you try to compare that 'evidence' with the overwhelming amount of evidence that people live more than one life. There are a large number of books and scientific studies which demonstrate beyond the shadow of a doubt that people have memories of previous lives.

Broaden your outlook.

Don't be seduced by the theology of terror.

Michael

So stealing a pencil will get me damned to hell for all eternity?

Living, working hard, being with my family. Opposing the unethical and many abuses of the world governments and other such bullies.
Etc.

Yes, but, if you torture and murder someone but ask forgiveness before you sin again, you will be loved and get to go to heaven.

Because I watch TV...The people who get on and are the example for me are 'evil' according to the Bible, yet they have the greatest influence on me. I want to be a Zuma, an Obama, the Pope or a CEO of BP. My whole education from birth revolves around making lot's of money at whatever cost. My given examples of what it means to be a good civilized human love Satan, according to the Bible...Look around...of course I'm going to follow their example. If I'm stinking and begging on the side of the road, God won't feed me or cloth me let alone most of those Christians or Muslims who are in a hurry chasing whatever they're after. Try it! Don't bath for a week and get some clothes out the bin...suddenly after an hour on the road there is no God's people...the disappear.

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You realize this is a three dimensional work of smoke and mirrors don't you? You realize what runs world governments don't you? There are two Kingdoms at odds, and you are in the crossfire and confusion for not recognizing it. The battle is in its final stages.

You are listening to the spirit of the antichrist. When man went away from the one true God, doubt was created and a world of need emerged. You live in lust. It is the desire to have everything in a moment instead of using the Lord's Prayer and realizing that we are provided for by a gracious God through his Son Jesus Christ. Instead of drinking the lemonade, you wish to return the lemonade to concentrate.

Maybe I am, and this no disrespect to your Beliefs...My Father said to me that he does not need a God to be good...and he is a Terminal 'Bleeding Heart'. His Idea of 'unwinding' are weekend soup kitchens and shaking hands with Vagabonds. So his sons follow (more out of concern for his safety) or he gets a little 'Disappointed'. I'll be quite honest with you...I hate it...all those sob stories and self pity. Get a Job and life gets better...Jesus didn't help these people by telling them that it gets better when you die...and that's it...you die poor and that's it!

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You're not following. We don't subscribe to your dogma whatsoever. It's not part of our reality. The only person it can be 'too late' for is one who accepts the dogma that you're selling. Therefore your passive aggressive 'before it's too late" threats are shallow and meaningless.

You should know better than to try and scare people into accepting your dogma. You can't win their hearts with wisdom so you need to plant a seed of doubt or fear in their mind to win them over? All that reveals is that you're not qualified to be teaching anyone... Save it for church...

Now carry on pretending that you are omniscient and can know the fate of other peoples' souls. People that you don't even know - but that won't stop you from judging them will it?. In many peoples' eyes such a practice is considered morally repugnant, but I guess not for some.

Neither

For all you mockers...A little OZ-lightenment

everyone is eternal UNLESS they reject their eternal life. It is the nature of life itself. Mind does not die.

grow a MIND Lisa and then you might know something

The sense of urgency is created in time. This life is nothing more than a flash in the pan. 70-80 years maybe? In a million years if this timeline continues what will be truth? Will your name be remembered?

Bible.cc KJV Matthew 6:26 "Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?"

Who would convince you that you should be in a world of need?

I just finished masturbating.. i guess i'm going to hell huh? :O

What is this reality you speak of? What you perceive is forged by what or whom?
You discover what is already put in place by a mind higher than yours. There is a design as DNA and atomic structure give testament to. Would you agree there is a design here? A pattern set in motion? There are two forces at odds. One creates and the other destroys. Are you saying what you know is greater than the gospel of Christ and the word of God?

What a tune!!!



Tx

Not so.......you have free will......we are that predictable.......God's weather forecast is never wrong.


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you christians will see
time will reveal
and time will prove christianity as the biggest, and longest lasting trap humanity has ever endured

you have fallen for a 2000+ trap, and while no one can see that now...time is the truth holder, and time will reveal

its a trap, its deception, and the entire world will know this in time...even the christians

heaven or hell???

again time will prove that book to be a trap.

No. You will just turn blind.

I will say this one more time. biblegateway.com KJV 2 John 1:7-11 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what we[a] have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. 11 Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

What backs up your findings? To substantiate your findings then you must have some facts, and the facts should be of a pattern to indicate the intent behind it to lead you to the truth. My spiritual encounter with Jesus Christ tells me he is the truth, the light, and the way. It is passed faith. It is knowing and being known.

Jesus Christ is not the WAY, he demonstrated the WAY. He did not come to set up this following. The gospel of Christ has been completely multilated. There are not two forces at odds, they is only one force, but some members of it, choose to work at odds with the Creative Mind.

lol that explains my poor eyesight! :ohyea:

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Jesus Christ is the way. You should learn something by simple faith. Everything he did in his ministry including miracles was based on faith that resided between himself and the believer. If the written gospel did not exist during his ministry on earth then how much faith a believer of that time must have had. You are sadly mistaken about the one force. There are two Kingdoms at odds. Would you agree that a design exist in nature? That patterns have been set in motion to give mankind clues that there is a supreme being?
Doesn't the bible say "You will know a tree by the fruit it bears?" As surely as the fruit of good are known also you should know there are evil fruits as well.

false false false false false false false false false false false false false false FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE FAIL.

if by the beginning im sure you mean adam and eve, of course.

in the beginning there can be absolutely no connection to Jesus and in no way can you say that it is ok to read the garden of eden story with Jesus in mind whatsoever.

sorry.


the garden of eden story and fall of mankind has nothing to do with Jesus at all.

If you want to know the truths i would be willing to tell you more because i like your name.

but otherwise, wise up.

If Jesus Christ is the alpha and omega then when did it start? Wouldn't it encompass all that is created?

Sorry guys, I just got home from grocery shopping.

But, I'm not going to debate or even defend the message. It's your choice to believe it or not. If you don't believe it, pray about it and ask God Himself what the truth is.

I can't answer every question in the world, and there are some things that God does that I don't understand either, and somethings that I dont' even like with my sinful and faulty human mind. But, I believe what Jesus said, and He talked about those who are shut out of heaven and how they will suffer. I believe Jesus's words. He didn't come here and suffer an agonizing death to save us all from nothing. If we were all headed for heaven when we die, then what was the point of His death?

For those that don't believe.......well, pray about it then.

This is one instance where I really hope that I'm wrong. I hope there is no hell, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it. For those who are betting on it, that's the biggest risk you can take. And, what if you're wrong? You can't go back and try again.

God bless everyone.