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Look...all of the stuff you said above is "nice"...but, here is what I have heard from people whose direct kin are masons...

The first initiation is to lie in a coffin and masturbate in front of the rest of the members.

This, to me, is done to get the person in a "compromised" position. The reason for the compromised position...to be able to blackmail the person into future actions.

Deny all you want...my source is 100% believable.
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Glad to meet you as well!hf
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Jonathan,

This is all cool, one question for clarity.

What do you mean by this?

"Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. "
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I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have.

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


:japand2: No you don't. You cannot be a Freemason and a Christian, or a Jewish Christian.
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ofc this little zionist shill cant understand what it means to be honest cruise


take care OP *****
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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Can't you belong to any religion and believe in any god and still be a mason?
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Satan believes in God and trembles. Masons refer to Lucifer as God. Albert Pike, in Morals and Dogma said the god of the masons is Lucifer.

LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange
and mysterious name to give to the
Spirit of Darknesss
! Lucifer, the Son
of the Morning! Is it he who
bears the Light, and with its
splendors intolerable blinds feeble,
sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it
not!


Things done in secret are not of God.Masons are the gatekeepers in every city. That's how they get away false flags and mass corruption. You are modern day witches and oppressors that use the buddy system to enrich yourselves and build the new world order under satan. You are the resurrection of the Tower of Babel. You bow to idols and graven images and set them up all over the earth.


It is what it is.


While I commend you for knowing the truth of your Creator you cannot serve 2 masters.

Seek these truths out for yourself.
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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Can't you belong to any religion and believe in any god and still be a mason?
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There would be a conflict of interest sooner or later.
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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what is this? some elaborate shill cover maybe?
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be ready to crumble under heavy conspitards trolls. May the force be with you OP yoda
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Look...all of the stuff you said above is "nice"...but, here is what I have heard from people whose direct kin are masons...

The first initiation is to lie in a coffin and masturbate in front of the rest of the members.

This, to me, is done to get the person in a "compromised" position. The reason for the compromised position...to be able to blackmail the person into future actions.

Deny all you want...my source is 100% believable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


Well, since your source is "100% believable" (to YOU), then it's pointless for me to argue...

BUT, for myself and every Mason I know, we'd say your "source" is just fucking with you. Seriously. What you are describing is some wacky shit--and a good way to get chased OUT of the Lodge.
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Satan believes in God and trembles. Masons refer to Lucifer as God. Albert Pike, in Morals and Dogma said the god of the masons is Lucifer.

LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange
and mysterious name to give to the
Spirit of Darknesss
! Lucifer, the Son
of the Morning! Is it he who
bears the Light, and with its
splendors intolerable blinds feeble,
sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it
not!


Things done in secret are not of God.Masons are the gatekeepers in every city. That's how they get away false flags and mass corruption. You are modern day witches and oppressors that use the buddy system to enrich yourselves and build the new world order under satan. You are the resurrection of the Tower of Babel. You bow to idols and graven images and set them up all over the earth.


It is what it is.


While I commend you for knowing the truth of your Creator you cannot serve 2 masters.

Seek these truths out for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5070268



Yes. I think many masons are honest, but deluded.
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Satan believes in God and trembles. Masons refer to Lucifer as God. Albert Pike, in Morals and Dogma said the god of the masons is Lucifer.

LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange
and mysterious name to give to the
Spirit of Darknesss
! Lucifer, the Son
of the Morning! Is it he who
bears the Light, and with its
splendors intolerable blinds feeble,
sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it
not!


Things done in secret are not of God.

Masons are the gatekeepers in every city. That's how they get away false flags and mass corruption.

You are modern day witches and oppressors that use the buddy system to enrich yourselves and build the new world order under satan.

You are the resurrection of the Tower of Babel. You bow to idols and graven images and set them up all over the earth.


It is what it is.


While I commend you for knowing the truth of your Creator you cannot serve 2 masters.

Seek these truths out for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5070268


Masons are the gatekeepers in every city.

That's how they get away false flags and mass corruption.

You are modern day witches and oppressors that use the buddy system to enrich yourselves and build the new world order under satan.




Masons are the gatekeepers in every city.

That's how they get away false flags and mass corruption.

You are modern day witches and oppressors that use the buddy system to enrich yourselves and build the new world order under satan.
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be ready to crumble under heavy conspitards trolls. May the force be with you OP yoda
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Thank you.

But really--what did I say that was so contraversial????
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Thanks for the pin!!!

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Two bechelors degrees? Is that like a Bachelor's degree for dumb people?
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he meant belchelor's. it's like a bachelors, but you have to
shotgun a case of milwaukee's best and burp your whole final exam without stopping.
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What do you say about this?


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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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GOD
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Look...all of the stuff you said above is "nice"...but, here is what I have heard from people whose direct kin are masons...

The first initiation is to lie in a coffin and masturbate in front of the rest of the members.

This, to me, is done to get the person in a "compromised" position. The reason for the compromised position...to be able to blackmail the person into future actions.

Deny all you want...my source is 100% believable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


Well, since your source is "100% believable" (to YOU), then it's pointless for me to argue...

BUT, for myself and every Mason I know, we'd say your "source" is just fucking with you. Seriously. What you are describing is some wacky shit--and a good way to get chased OUT of the Lodge.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Ummm...the individual I know is not the only source for said activity...
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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GOD....there is No Hyphen in GOD
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You Disrespect Christians when You Jew's, spell their God's name with a Hyphen
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Honesty is always refreshinghf
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Like an ice-cold coke classic...
Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh...
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Damn, now I want a coke...
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Forgot to sign in...

I wanna pepsi...
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the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong.


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I'm not a Mason and I agree. Great thread.

It's cliché to say this, but Freemasonry is no different then an apple orchard. A few trees may not yield like the rest, but you don't burn down the orchard because of it.
 Quoting: 10-DUDE


The same applies for ANY religion, society or organization. Cheers to you, friend!

hf
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Is this the same guy who said he uses hookers regularly and can score hot 20 somethings for 30 bucks and half an 8 ball. Good men better?
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applause

:5 star:
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Thank you. You know your opinion means a lot to me.

hf
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are you Sephardic?
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Diversity of thought is one of the most important tenets of Masonry. If lay people just understood what Masonry is, they would be all for it. But it's hard to explain to "sectarian"-type people.
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Fuck you, pompous elitist.

I was a mason myself for more than 20 years, they are evil at their core. If you have not seen this it means that you are not of the calibre whom they let into their inner circle.

Fuck you very much.
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


GOD
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


"The custom of substituting the word "God" with G-d in English is based on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. When written or printed, God's Hebrew name (and many of the stand in names used to refer to God) cannot be erased or destroyed. (See below)

There is no prohibition in Jewish law against writing out or erasing the word "God" in English. However, many Jews have afforded the word "God" with the same level of respect as the Hebrew equivalents. Because of this, many Jews substitute "God with G-d so that they can erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God. Some Jews also use G!d in the same way, utilizing the exclamation point to convey their enthusiasm for Judaism and God."

[link to judaism.about.com]

Educate yourself before you make yourself look ignorant next time.
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Look...all of the stuff you said above is "nice"...but, here is what I have heard from people whose direct kin are masons...

The first initiation is to lie in a coffin and masturbate in front of the rest of the members.

This, to me, is done to get the person in a "compromised" position. The reason for the compromised position...to be able to blackmail the person into future actions.

Deny all you want...my source is 100% believable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


Well, since your source is "100% believable" (to YOU), then it's pointless for me to argue...

BUT, for myself and every Mason I know, we'd say your "source" is just fucking with you. Seriously. What you are describing is some wacky shit--and a good way to get chased OUT of the Lodge.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Ummm...the individual I know is not the only source for said activity...
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ohno If it's on the internet it MUST be true!

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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Very true, brother. Scot Irish/Creek mix here with a very, VERY similar background and belief set. Wishing you the best...


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