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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49976729 Puerto Rico 11/14/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my friend went to the Philippines to help and here is what he wrote me......... Quoting: seer I'm on the ground here in the philippines and it is BAD - way worse then Haiti. It pains my heart and there is SO MUCH need. Someone summed It up best by saying "what do they need - EVERYTHING" "Tacloban Philippines update straight from Eli. City is secure and safe. We got here and found only 1 of 5 hospitals was running the rest were "permanently destroyed and not working". The congressman was impressed with us and have us a shot with his "destoyed" hospital that is 140,000 sq ft. we have the operating room open and running and about 50,000 sq ft of thehospital operation already after 33 hours. Go team AWESOME! This afternoon the congressman was so impressed with our work that he gave us control of the university next door that is at least as big as this hospital. It will be tuned into a refugee camp and distribution center tomorrow. It's expensive running a house imagine a huge hospital and a college. The Clorox alone we need is hundreds of dollars. The brooms the mops the labor the...the...the... We need money probably $10,000 to get this job done." Urgent need!!! I need to build a Latrine big enough to support the continual needs of 400 people construction starts in 3 hours! I've never built one an need YOU to research best practices when the water table is 1 ft below ground (digging a hole is NOT an option). Most latrines are below ground. Mine WILL be above ground I just need to know what differences this makes so I can build properly. I'm going to find a huge tank like object or make one that I know. Please TEXT me answers because sun rises in 2 hours and I WON'T HAVE internet text me at 8********. Make it short sweet and to the point" i will relay the message! please help! Here is all you need .. [link to www.bing.com] Construction Guide for Latrines &… inspectapedia.com/septic/Latrine.htm Latrine designs, sketches, U.S. Army field manual suggestions. ... This article discusses latrine construction & maintenance, odor control, sanitation, ... Latrine Construction Manual | WASH… resources.cawst.org/package/latrine-construction-manual_es 2011-02-01. This appendix to the Latrine Construction Manual describes how to build sand sieve sets to prepare sand and gravel for latrine construction. The ventilated improved double pit latrine… documents.worldbank.org/.../04/...latrine-construction-manual-botswana The ventilated improved double pit latrine : a construction manual for Botswana (English) Abstract. This booklet is intended to serve as a field manual for Self-Help ... www.cawst.org/.../20...download=131%3Alatrine-construction-manual-eng CAWST - The Centre for Affordable Water and Sanitation Technology Earth Bag Bio Latrine MINALI Model… outdoor.geocities.jp/ebblmm/const_manual.html Earth Bag Bio Latrine MINALI Model. Onjuku Organic: English | ... Construction Manual: You can get the EBBLMM Construction Manual. Please Click here. ... {0} Construction Project plansscope.construction.com/NE_Army_Aviation_Support_Fac._Latrine... Get detailed Dodge project (Plans & Specs) information on construction project from McGraw-Hill Construction Dodge. US Army Carpentry and Building Manual… www.todaysplans.net/use-usarmy-free-building-manual.html The US Army Carpentry Field Manual will teach ... text for army engineers who are responsible for the planning and construction of all types of ... Army Field Manuals - GlobalSecurity.org… www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm As part of the Army's Doctrine 2015 initiative, ... Seabee Quarry Blasting Operations And Safety Manual: 19-Dec-2003: PDF: ... Pile Construction: 18 Apr 1985: PDF: FM ... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49482521 United States 11/14/2013 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is so weird ac 2776? Seer has a friend helping in the Philippines, his friend has asked for help in a construction project, time is little and of importance, he asked seer to help him find a way around a project, he can only recieve texts ,,, I don't know if you have watched the news but yeah, communication is limited. He needs a short explanation of how to build a latrine. Now I don't know how long you have been here but members of this forum are very clever, from building their own homes, digging wells to installing solar power, yes we have some clever members, so what better place to ask, especially when googling could take a lifetime especially when you have no clue what is for the best. |
seer (OP) User ID: 1529717 United States 11/14/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is so weird ac 2776? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49482521 Seer has a friend helping in the Philippines, his friend has asked for help in a construction project, time is little and of importance, he asked seer to help him find a way around a project, he can only recieve texts ,,, I don't know if you have watched the news but yeah, communication is limited. He needs a short explanation of how to build a latrine. Now I don't know how long you have been here but members of this forum are very clever, from building their own homes, digging wells to installing solar power, yes we have some clever members, so what better place to ask, especially when googling could take a lifetime especially when you have no clue what is for the best. thanks! |
GFX guy User ID: 9776422 United States 11/14/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can text this: Build a structure with a bench in the frontside. Allow for air intake. Build the backside of the structure to allow for large trash cans (with handles) to slide underneath the bench. This backside should have a chimney to pull air out from the frontside. Use a large black pipe for chimney. This will allow the sun to heat the chimney and naturally pull air out. The bench inside should have a hole cut into it and a toilet seat attached. Add about a cup of sawdust to the waste container (trash can) for each deposit. Include a bucket of sawdust in the frontside of the structure. This explains the one built at the link I posted on page 1 of this thread. In a pinch it will work and minimize health concerns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24123600 United States 11/14/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is so weird ac 2776? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49482521 Seer has a friend helping in the Philippines, his friend has asked for help in a construction project, time is little and of importance, he asked seer to help him find a way around a project, he can only recieve texts ,,, I don't know if you have watched the news but yeah, communication is limited. He needs a short explanation of how to build a latrine. Now I don't know how long you have been here but members of this forum are very clever, from building their own homes, digging wells to installing solar power, yes we have some clever members, so what better place to ask, especially when googling could take a lifetime especially when you have no clue what is for the best. the comment clearly states what is so weird |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24123600 United States 11/14/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my friend went to the Philippines to help and here is what he wrote me......... Quoting: seer I'm on the ground here in the philippines and it is BAD - way worse then Haiti. It pains my heart and there is SO MUCH need. Someone summed It up best by saying "what do they need - EVERYTHING" "Tacloban Philippines update straight from Eli. City is secure and safe. We got here and found only 1 of 5 hospitals was running the rest were "permanently destroyed and not working". The congressman was impressed with us and have us a shot with his "destoyed" hospital that is 140,000 sq ft. we have the operating room open and running and about 50,000 sq ft of thehospital operation already after 33 hours. Go team AWESOME! This afternoon the congressman was so impressed with our work that he gave us control of the university next door that is at least as big as this hospital. It will be tuned into a refugee camp and distribution center tomorrow. It's expensive running a house imagine a huge hospital and a college. The Clorox alone we need is hundreds of dollars. The brooms the mops the labor the...the...the... We need money probably $10,000 to get this job done." Urgent need!!! I need to build a Latrine big enough to support the continual needs of 400 people construction starts in 3 hours! I've never built one an need YOU to research best practices when the water table is 1 ft below ground (digging a hole is NOT an option). Most latrines are below ground. Mine WILL be above ground I just need to know what differences this makes so I can build properly. I'm going to find a huge tank like object or make one that I know. Please TEXT me answers because sun rises in 2 hours and I WON'T HAVE internet text me at 8********. Make it short sweet and to the point" i will relay the message! please help! he texted all that huh? when are you going to get around to the real reason for this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13314174 Sweden 11/14/2013 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Construct tank. Paint black. As much exposure to sun as possible. Put about 4-5 inches of tree bark (best), saw dust or other pourus material at bottom. Install chimney on tank, atleast 15 feet high for odour to vent. Install "outhouse" on top of tank. Ask user to throw about a cup of saw dust after use. (ground up tree bark is the best) The heat of the sun will continously dry out the feces. The chimney will went most of the odours. A fan might be needed on the chimney. If possible, having a urine separator in the toilet, will improve performance, especially when dealing with so many people. Encourage people to use urinals first (atleast the men). Urine is excellent fertiliser, but needs to be mixed with water, otherwise it actually kills the vegetation. It needs to be something like 1 part urine, 10 parts water atleast. But I think water for that purpose is just about the only thing easily obtained. |
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nutmeg User ID: 48758836 United States 11/14/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit , you've got internet access . What the hell are you coming here for advice for? Quoting: STARLING Because I doubt you can find the answer on google. Google sites will probably tell you the supplies you should buy at Home Depot. Last Edited by nutmeg on 11/14/2013 06:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24123600 United States 11/14/2013 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do NOT donate to a random person on the internet who tells you all about their friend's "charity" UNLESS you vet it first. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44766277 United States 11/14/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely donate if you can afford to - to a reputable organization with a proven track record of helping those in need. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24123600 Do NOT donate to a random person on the internet who tells you all about their friend's "charity" UNLESS you vet it first. This ^^^^ OP's mention of money in her friend's report comes off as a set-up to hit you up for money or that you'll ask what group their friend is working with and volunteer to donate to it. OP and friend could be totally on the up and up. Personally I saw it as a red flag. The point is make sure to check things out so that money actually does help those who need it. And OP I WILL be keeping an eye on this. |
One-Hitter User ID: 28794496 United States 11/14/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the time being I'd use tight tanks until the groundwater is lower to prevent contamination. If they have an excavator I'd simply tell them to build a mounded pump up system 4' above groundwater, the proper system would consist of a septic tank with baffle leading to a pump chamber pumped upwards to the distribution box, branching out throughout the leaching trenches. It could be completed in a day with a few guys in a makeshift fashion using stationary tanker trucks, a trash pump and manually up pumping to created berms to sloped perforated pipe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45809270 United States 11/14/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to dig a burn pit.. waste should be deposited in said pit and burned... The preferred method would be to shit in a bag and toss it in.. but since you may not have plastic bags available (I honestly don't know) you will have to find another way to transport it.. anyway.. I've done it before... that's probably your best bet. |
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CE1 ***** User ID: 1111279 United States 11/14/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i need to send a short text- can someone sum this up please short and simple.... i want to send him something to use. thanks GLP! Quoting: seer You need to get dozers and clean roadways get them working 24/7 Clean burn and bury. Stage water tankers offshore and pump water. DRILL WELLS ASAP. Waterwells and spring FED water, if it is available in Leyte. Animals will be put to rest if they become a threat to others. Any violent animal or crossbreed. . . Get laundry/ shower facilities. Find some "Friends" that can get C-130-s on improvised airstrips. If you have to land them get some JATO assist and get 'em the hell out of there on airlift wing. You can get KC-135's in drop off fuel and water and GTFO with JATO Assist. I bet you sorry you closed Clark and Alongapo now ;-) Get the WELL DRILLERS IN ASAP! Seabee Thinking! "CAN DO" Last Edited by CE1 on 11/14/2013 08:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49882422 United States 11/14/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can text this: Build a structure with a bench in the frontside. Allow for air intake. Build the backside of the structure to allow for large trash cans (with handles) to slide underneath the bench. This backside should have a chimney to pull air out from the frontside. Use a large black pipe for chimney. This will allow the sun to heat the chimney and naturally pull air out. The bench inside should have a hole cut into it and a toilet seat attached. Add about a cup of sawdust to the waste container (trash can) for each deposit. Include a bucket of sawdust in the frontside of the structure. This explains the one built at the link I posted on page 1 of this thread. In a pinch it will work and minimize health concerns. This is pretty much the same thing my husband just said -- I think this must be a good solution. Almost like a 'deer stand' with a toilet inside, and under the deer stand is room for the trash can / 55 gallon drum. Except instead of seating only one person, the 'deer stand' would be divided into stalls, with one trash can / 55 gallon drum under each. Also very important to use sawdust -- then the waste, with proper amount of time, will turn to something like compost. But if there's too much, then of course, it will have to be burnt. Tell your friend GOod luck!, OP!. |
CE1 ***** User ID: 1111279 United States 11/14/2013 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 gal bucket cut bottom out dig 18 inch hole yes water good put bottom of bucket in hole put mud around edges put lid on loosely you can screw a toilet seat to a lid and put it on with toilet seat lid also by cutting hole in lid after used a while just seal lid and make another a few feet awAy they won't work for 400 but many of them will work Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18026329 |
CE1 ***** User ID: 1111279 United States 11/14/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: Sorry I cant get a fleet of these over there. Perhaps one day soon.. But for now.. we need to muster up something. Hang in there, sir or ma'am. Last Edited by CE1 on 11/14/2013 08:18 PM |