Is Wicca evil?

The Roman Empire created Christianity and it still controls it today.

Isn't Wicca (related to) has to do with materials to fuck around a persons head. Like magic?..

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-joe

Yeah, it is magick. So's Christianity, just not an effective kind for the common man.

Why, you got a problem with magick?

so, buddhism would be wrong too in your opinion... tz

Doesn't wicca state clearly

An it harm none, do what thou wilt


Whats wrong with that?

Last Edited by °Lucy° on 06/26/2014 12:31 AM

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!

True Christianity is a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club!!!

That was well said.

Search YouTube for John todd. Comes from the Collins family. One the first witch families to come to america. Low initiates are told fairy tales but the higher ups all know they worship lucifer.

Yes.

I have some good friends that are wiccan. They definitely are not an evil bunch - actually if anything they are a bunch of bunny huggers. The believe that the earth and creation should be taken care of (not bad thinking). They don't believe in Satan at all, in fact they believe Satan is a Christian made to scare the people into worship.
I don't think I have ever heard or seen a bit of mean or ugly come from any of them

yes it is like all religions.

wrong would be more the term for it,

let's see, stay ignorant
worship creation over creator
use rituals for gain, even though it may hurt someone else like bend their own wills against each other

It's just wrong. All are wrong. Now like a clock though, there is one right and the rest are wrong. Now guess what core part is right of one religion. But all religions are tools used wrong. WRONG.

Actually there is a little truth in this, followers of Jesus' teachings existed before the Romans made it into roman catholism, but if you want to go there then you must acknowledge that the roman church is the only reason you know who Jesus is today and that before they got their hands on him and the New Testament he was just an intelligent man. He did not rise from the dead at ester (pagan celebration of spring) and was not born at xmas (pagan celebration of the days becoming longer). He was crafted to suit there needs but maintain pagan holidays and traditions....

Your Jesus is no more a god than you and I... His words were teachings ( if you can find the real ones, unadulterated by the church), wonderful teachings if you get he meaning, but no more important that any other intelligent being that understand how this world works.

The Wiccan simply alters the golden rule slightly but outcome is the same, due unto others as you would have them do unto you, every true religion states it in some way.....

Every Sunday 1000's of Building are filled with Millions of People taking part in Mass Rituals. There is no difference in those RITUALS in CHURCHES and the ones that take place by Pagan groups except the subject matter possibly. Earth and Universe loving pagans in some ways are closer to God than anyone who thinks they will find God only in a Building built by Man on Sundays. Or in a Book written by MAN and mis-translated for 1000's of years.

Of course the CREATOR IS IN THE CREATION.

Lord have Mercy on those who do not SEE GOD IN NATURE!!!

Wherever ever people gather and do things together as one like singing, dancing, watching a sporting event etc is a ritual.

A concert is a ritual. The World Cup going on right now is a global ritual. Wherever you gather souls together and get them doing the same thing much power is created.

Life is a constant set of rituals. Brushing your teeth every day is a ritual.

So what does that make all of it? Evil? LOL. NO. As with all things what comes of it, the results, the effect of the cause defines it.

"We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world."

Buddha 600 BC

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Jesus 30 AD


"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

Aleister Crowley 1904 (Similar to Wiccan saying from earlier time, he claimed to have received it from an Alien, rolls eyes)


All these are? The Natural Law of CAUSE & EFFECT.

Really very simple. If people would only just "get it." What a truly amazing productive world this could be. No need for greed or power over others. We could all just be and be happy, healthy and what HUMANS were meant to be. Instead MAN messed it up for greed and power.

idealistic thinking, but it can never be... not here on earth, or anywhere in this galaxy...

it is wise to understand - physical existence is flawed by design... the intention is not to continue the game - it is to recognize the game for what it is, recognize who you are, complete your experiences, and move on...

simple to understand, challenging to do...

Ahh but I know different. It absoulutely will happen on this Earth. It is the Golden Age to come. Just waiting for more to get it. At some point more will get it than don't and it will be ushered in. In our lifetime more than likely. I have known this for 37 plus years now. There will be a point where there is no denying it. Even those who think they know have been blinded. Self included. The only thing I know for sure without any doubt is what is to come and what I have yet to experience but know that I will in the time constraints created by this existence. I know what is coming. Nothing to fear. We are closer to the end of great fear than the beginning. Once of many deceptions. Things that people believe are just beginning are closer to an end.

you're both wrong: satan always counterfeits...

wiccan is just another Babylonian flavor... and if you get anywhere with it (start accessing real power and bling) you will end up within the pyramid system of control or you will have problems... it's not like anything you do is secret: there are "spirit demons" all around us all the time...

[link to ia701209.us.archive.org]

wicca itself is what the Romans practiced... based on how they treated each other, I would bet that practicing it can lead to extreme evil...

there are many reports of people who join a wiccan group having great difficulty getting out when they want... be very careful if you choose to dabble...

Turn to Jesus for a way out. Odd how that works. Jesus is the Law.

why worship the created when you can pray to God direct?

Only Jesus said that the most important laws are to LOVE GOD and each other.

There will always be some truth in the pagan traditions... why else would people be fooled? The Laws of the OT were set up to keep people from being deceived and harmed.

Nah, wicca is superstition also.

Until you recognize the golden rule you will never move on, life is a "game" of experiences and challenges and whatever journey your sould has chosen for you in this existence, it is your challenge to overcome all greed, hatred lust materialism fear poverty oppression etc... When you can live by the golden rule in every moment you breath you can take the next step...

Simple concept, incredible challenge!

This is illegal you know.

-joe

just based on the fallen condition of people you're gonna end up with the system we have: sell outs on the extreme end who turn to satanism and blood sacrificing for power. Many are born into these families and don't know anything else...

It is very difficult to go through the normal Babylonian channels of success and not end up sold out.

just look at the entertainment industry...

and they tell some it is just "spiritual politics" and it doesn't matter which side you're on and anyway, satan will win, etc etc:


yt: A Trip into the Supernatural - Roger Morneau

[link to www.youtube.com]

people will lie to themselves for very basic reasons: pride, ego, lust...

To add to this, everyone understands this deep inside and every religion is at its purest an attempt to help people on this path, unfortunately some are not able to overcome greed and corrupt religion for personal gains....
....individuals with pure intention will find purity in Christianity or Wicca but you will find evil as well if you go looking, the onus is on the individual

according to some former occultists, wiccan rites and masonic ones are very similar, almost identical... and the lower levels are not told that satan is at the top... they are told satan does not exist, just as w lower level satanists...

they are satanists: HELLO: THEY LIE.

Ex Satanist Testimony Rev. Antony 'Jess' LaVey Convertion to Christianity 1/8
[link to youtu.be]


wicca is wishful thinking, at best... and I like to hug trees and used to "commune w nature" on and off mushrooms...

it is easy to be deceived because we do not know all the rules... we are dumbed down to make stupid choices: like taking hallucinogens to open doors kept shut for our protection....

then decades later we find out that Jerry Garcia, TIm Leary, Terrence McKenna!

were ALL CIA assets...

TERRENCE MCKENNA! CIA

and notice Jess LaVey had difficulty finding a church and true Christians...

and he talks about blood sacrifices going on all the time, meanwhile his dad was on tv saying it was all a joke and no one does that...

WICCA ISNT EVEN NEOPAGAN ITS JUST A SELLING GIMMIC FOR NAIVE YOUNG WOMEN! Astru and other reconstructions can be considered modern paganism.

Wrong. Panteists are so clueless it's not even funny. It's all just self-worship in the end.

WRONG! They worship the personification of natural forces, its not idol worhsip. The romans were hellenistic pagans not wiccans ... wtf WICCA IS BULLSHIT, its not even real paganism!

yep anything that cuts you off from the multiverse wave field is evil

No, they worship the "personification" of natural forces. What you say and what you do is two completely different things. Empty, stylized liturgical self-worship.