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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68636372 United States 07/30/2015 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 The Russians may have known about it...because they planted spys. But even with an alleged 1,500 leaks it still somehow NEVER REACHED PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS! 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks. And yes, it reached public consciousness, that's why you know about it today. Get it yet? If you were trying to find out about it back then it would not have been hard to find leaked info. Fortunately for them the internet didn't exist yet. 1500 leaks. Apollo? None. Because it wasn't a conspiracy. We know about it today because the U.S. dropped a bomb Hiroshima causing an atomic explosion. That's when it became public knowledge that government had engaged in a massive conspiracy to create the weapon. It was not public knowledge before that. Why do you know about the project to develop said bomb? I thought the government could pull off a perfect massive leakless conspiracy according to you? How is it that we know about the project to develop it? Why weren't they able to keep the methods used to develop said bomb a perfect secret, why weren't they able to keep the very nature of the weapon used a complete and total secret? Sure, we'd know something had blown up an entire city, but why do we even know about the basics of what it was if such a conspiracy were possible? Why do our enemies know? Because they can't keep a conspiracy that large a secret indefinitely or even for very long! No kidding. The conspiracy ended when they dropped the bomb and they made not attempt continue the conspiracy because the fruits of the conspiracy were so obviously out in the open. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66078622 South Korea 07/30/2015 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69725311 Sarcasm, I hope. NASA only has like a trillion dollars since the 60s. You're kidding, right? Their budget has been slashed since the 60s. And what is left they don't get to just use on whatever they want. Every part of their budget is set aside for specific items. They took 3 cars to the moon at a cost of 38 million dollars, not having money for tapes to document the single most important event since Columbus, Yeager or Lindberg is complete indefensible bullshit. The profits from the sale of rights to Life Magazine alone would have covered permanent archival without additional public funds. Im not saying that the moon landing was a hoax, but you have to do better than that piss-poor excuse. all the photos are in the public domain. Where'd you get the idea they sold any rights? Life bought rights to the astronauts personal stories for every mission excluding the STS. Millions of dollars directly into NASA hands, the crews got only a very tiny fraction, NASA kept the rest. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 07/30/2015 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks. And yes, it reached public consciousness, that's why you know about it today. Get it yet? If you were trying to find out about it back then it would not have been hard to find leaked info. Fortunately for them the internet didn't exist yet. 1500 leaks. Apollo? None. Because it wasn't a conspiracy. We know about it today because the U.S. dropped a bomb Hiroshima causing an atomic explosion. That's when it became public knowledge that government had engaged in a massive conspiracy to create the weapon. It was not public knowledge before that. Why do you know about the project to develop said bomb? I thought the government could pull off a perfect massive leakless conspiracy according to you? How is it that we know about the project to develop it? Why weren't they able to keep the methods used to develop said bomb a perfect secret, why weren't they able to keep the very nature of the weapon used a complete and total secret? Sure, we'd know something had blown up an entire city, but why do we even know about the basics of what it was if such a conspiracy were possible? Why do our enemies know? Because they can't keep a conspiracy that large a secret indefinitely or even for very long! No kidding. The conspiracy ended when they dropped the bomb and they made not attempt continue the conspiracy because the fruits of the conspiracy were so obviously out in the open. If they could have kept the development and information about the bomb completely hidden, why wouldn't they have done so even after dropping it? |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 07/30/2015 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Learn to read, the point was already addressed before you tried to make it. ... With just a "blurb of light" I can determine what orbit an object is in, where it came from, and where it is going. No, it was not random space junk. Your claim is false and betrays your ignorance of satellite tracking. You are debunked. Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then. Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. It's not a link, it's a citation. Thanks for proving you're not even reading my posts. I fucking highlighted that shit for you! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding. Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up. Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same. But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs. So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser. Also, learn to read. No supposing required. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68636372 United States 07/30/2015 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Hey dipshit liar, it wasn't a few professional observers, it was HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING FUCKING AMATEURS! YOU ARE ACCUSING MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF BEING IN ON A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY! Now you are just calling names. Answer me, yes or no, did amateur astronomers observe the Apollo missions in transit to the moon or not? Answer the question. Yes or no. Let's see how honest you're willing to be... That's along the lines of the question I asked YOU. And your answer was to refer me to an unnamed Sky and Telescope article without any hyperlink. You seem indicate that amateur astronomers observed it through satellite tracking and I asked about satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name the of an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66078622 South Korea 07/30/2015 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Learn to read, the point was already addressed before you tried to make it. ... With just a "blurb of light" I can determine what orbit an object is in, where it came from, and where it is going. No, it was not random space junk. Your claim is false and betrays your ignorance of satellite tracking. You are debunked. Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then. Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. Every single issue of Sky and Telescope is available on bittorent, I have them all. Go ahead, cite issue and page please... Lets put this bitch to bed. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 07/30/2015 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer me, yes or no, did amateur astronomers observe the Apollo missions in transit to the moon or not? Answer the question. Yes or no. Let's see how honest you're willing to be... That's along the lines of the question I asked YOU. And your answer was to refer me to an unnamed Sky and Telescope article without any hyperlink. I cited the goddamn article to the page. The title of the article is "S&T Observer's page - optical observations of Apollo 12." You seem indicate that amateur astronomers observed it through satellite tracking and I asked about satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name the of an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. Quoting: ACTo which I say read the goddamn article I cited you which you keep ignoring. It names names and shows the photographs and sketches that were made by observers of the mission. Maurice Gavin, Heinz Kaminski, Michael Charette to name a few. I know Paul Maley did it as well. In fact I bet I could use some of those photographs to actually validate the orbit of the spacecraft even today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68636372 United States 07/30/2015 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then. Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. It's not a link, it's a citation. Thanks for proving you're not even reading my posts. I fucking highlighted that shit for you! ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up. Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same. But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs. So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser. Also, learn to read. No supposing required. There is a pg citation without out an article Name! I am not paying money to subscribe to sky and Telescope. Give me the name of the article and I might be able to find it loose leaf, for free. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 07/30/2015 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then. Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. Every single issue of Sky and Telescope is available on bittorent, I have them all. Go ahead, cite issue and page please... Lets put this bitch to bed. Don't be posting pirated material here. I ALREADY CITED THE GODDAMN ISSUE AND PAGE! YOU CAN FIND THAT SHIT IN TONS OF UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES ALL OVER THE NATION LEGALLY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68636372 United States 07/30/2015 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Answer me, yes or no, did amateur astronomers observe the Apollo missions in transit to the moon or not? Answer the question. Yes or no. Let's see how honest you're willing to be... That's along the lines of the question I asked YOU. And your answer was to refer me to an unnamed Sky and Telescope article without any hyperlink. I cited the goddamn article to the page. The title of the article is "S&T Observer's page - optical observations of Apollo 12." You seem indicate that amateur astronomers observed it through satellite tracking and I asked about satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name the of an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. Quoting: ACTo which I say read the goddamn article I cited you which you keep ignoring. It names names and shows the photographs and sketches that were made by observers of the mission. Maurice Gavin, Heinz Kaminski, Michael Charette to name a few. I know Paul Maley did it as well. In fact I bet I could use some of those photographs to actually validate the orbit of the spacecraft even today. Thank your for the name finally! Let me try to look it up. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 07/30/2015 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. It's not a link, it's a citation. Thanks for proving you're not even reading my posts. I fucking highlighted that shit for you! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same. But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs. So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser. Also, learn to read. No supposing required. There is a pg citation without out an article Name! I am not paying money to subscribe to sky and Telescope. Give me the name of the article and I might be able to find it loose leaf, for free. You can find it in any number of University libraries for free, no subscription necessary. I have seen this very article in the local college library in town myself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66078622 South Korea 07/30/2015 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then. Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. Every single issue of Sky and Telescope is available on bittorent, I have them all. Go ahead, cite issue and page please... Lets put this bitch to bed. Its as he said... "Optical Observations of Apollo 12" Photos of the CM performing a LOX dump are shown. That being said, the entire operation reeks of fish. The amount of BS surrounding Apollo requires detailed satisfactory explanation to the American taxpayer... I dont give a damn who is offended or how sophomore it seems to address it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66078622 South Korea 07/30/2015 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12. Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. Every single issue of Sky and Telescope is available on bittorent, I have them all. Go ahead, cite issue and page please... Lets put this bitch to bed. Don't be posting pirated material here. I ALREADY CITED THE GODDAMN ISSUE AND PAGE! YOU CAN FIND THAT SHIT IN TONS OF UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES ALL OVER THE NATION LEGALLY! Get a grip astro, nobody posted anything. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States 07/30/2015 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69823837 You're kidding, right? Their budget has been slashed since the 60s. And what is left they don't get to just use on whatever they want. Every part of their budget is set aside for specific items. They took 3 cars to the moon at a cost of 38 million dollars, not having money for tapes to document the single most important event since Columbus, Yeager or Lindberg is complete indefensible bullshit. The profits from the sale of rights to Life Magazine alone would have covered permanent archival without additional public funds. Im not saying that the moon landing was a hoax, but you have to do better than that piss-poor excuse. all the photos are in the public domain. Where'd you get the idea they sold any rights? Life bought rights to the astronauts personal stories for every mission excluding the STS. Millions of dollars directly into NASA hands, the crews got only a very tiny fraction, NASA kept the rest. citation needed. I have trouble believing that profits from rights to PERSONAL stories would go to a government agency. and it isn't that there wasn't enough money to buy new tapes. There was a shortage of tapes because the manufacturer couldn't make enough. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40247864 United States 07/30/2015 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA admitted in 2006 that they could not locate the authentic video copy of the July 20, 1969, Moon landing. Quoting: xoodooglowskull Since then, Richard Nafzger, an engineer at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center has figured out what happened to the original recordings of the moon landing... [link to therundownlive.com] It's stuff like this that nearly proves that NASA is lying. An historical event like the moon landing? NO documents - absolutely NOTHING would be missing if this event actually happened. |
TT_0 User ID: 69912440 Uruguay 07/30/2015 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's along the lines of the question I asked YOU. And your answer was to refer me to an unnamed Sky and Telescope article without any hyperlink. I cited the goddamn article to the page. The title of the article is "S&T Observer's page - optical observations of Apollo 12." You seem indicate that amateur astronomers observed it through satellite tracking and I asked about satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name the of an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. Quoting: ACTo which I say read the goddamn article I cited you which you keep ignoring. It names names and shows the photographs and sketches that were made by observers of the mission. Maurice Gavin, Heinz Kaminski, Michael Charette to name a few. I know Paul Maley did it as well. James Maurice "Jumpin' Jim" Gavin: (Ret) Lieutenant General. 1907-1990. 1954-1957 US Army's Chief of Research & Development. Michael Charette- Null Info. Heinz Kaminsk: Founder of "Institut für Umwelt- und Zukunftsforschung" In 1967 Kaminski installed a 20 meter parabolic antenna in a radome, with which all Apollo missions were followed. Paul Maley: He worked in the aerospace industry at the NASA Johnson Space Center from 1969 to 2010. His academic credentials include a B.S. (University of Texas, Pan American Campus), M.S., and M.B.A (University of Houston – Clear Lake). |
TT_0 User ID: 69912440 Uruguay 07/30/2015 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 That's along the lines of the question I asked YOU. And your answer was to refer me to an unnamed Sky and Telescope article without any hyperlink. I cited the goddamn article to the page. The title of the article is "S&T Observer's page - optical observations of Apollo 12." You seem indicate that amateur astronomers observed it through satellite tracking and I asked about satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name the of an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11. Quoting: ACTo which I say read the goddamn article I cited you which you keep ignoring. It names names and shows the photographs and sketches that were made by observers of the mission. Maurice Gavin, Heinz Kaminski, Michael Charette to name a few. I know Paul Maley did it as well. James Maurice "Jumpin' Jim" Gavin: (Ret) Lieutenant General. 1907-1990. 1954-1957 US Army's Chief of Research & Development. Michael Charette- Null Info. Heinz Kaminsk: Founder of "Institut für Umwelt- und Zukunftsforschung" In 1967 Kaminski installed a 20 meter parabolic antenna in a radome, with which all Apollo missions were followed. Paul Maley: He worked in the aerospace industry at the NASA Johnson Space Center from 1969 to 2010. His academic credentials include a B.S. (University of Texas, Pan American Campus), M.S., and M.B.A (University of Houston – Clear Lake). Veeery interesting! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69910644 Spain 07/30/2015 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article. It's not a link, it's a citation. Thanks for proving you're not even reading my posts. I fucking highlighted that shit for you! There is a pg citation without out an article Name! I am not paying money to subscribe to sky and Telescope. Give me the name of the article and I might be able to find it loose leaf, for free. You can find it in any number of University libraries for free, no subscription necessary. I have seen this very article in the local college library in town myself. From my personal collection: [link to dropcanvas.com] . |
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 68914848 Netherlands 07/30/2015 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tapes weren't reused to safe money, they were reused because they weren't being manufactured anymore. The links confirm that the Apollo mission only had the computing power of a pocket calculator. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 And they conclude with the ridiculously but officially sanctioned narrative from NASA that we somehow landed men on the moon with so little computing power. If you claim that the automation at the time wasn't up to the task of landing on the Moon even when only assisting human pilots, than you are claiming that the automation alone could not have landed unmanned probes on the Moon Yet there are for a fact man-made artefacts on the surface of the Moon. I have trouble believing that profits from rights to PERSONAL stories would go to a government agency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 The money didn't go to NASA, the contract was with the astronauts, dimwit. Most of the astronauts were military personal who just got military pay, IOW not a whole lot. *BUZZZZZ* Shill Gambit! You lose, you loser. If you had any actual evidence for your accusations you would not need to go that route. IOW going that route tells us that you HAVE NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support your accusations. Like every single hoaxie ever... Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 07/30/2015 04:15 PM Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69914371 United States 07/30/2015 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tapes weren't reused to safe money, they were reused because they weren't being manufactured anymore. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD The links confirm that the Apollo mission only had the computing power of a pocket calculator. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372 And they conclude with the ridiculously but officially sanctioned narrative from NASA that we somehow landed men on the moon with so little computing power. If you claim that the automation at the time wasn't up to the task of landing on the Moon even when only assisting human pilots, than you are claiming that the automation alone could not have landed unmanned probes on the Moon Yet there are for a fact man-made artefacts on the surface of the Moon. I have trouble believing that profits from rights to PERSONAL stories would go to a government agency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 The money didn't go to NASA, the contract was with the astronauts, dimwit. Most of the astronauts were military personal who just got military pay, IOW not a whole lot. *BUZZZZZ* Shill Gambit! You lose, you loser. If you had any actual evidence for your accusations you would not need to go that route. IOW going that route tells us that you HAVE NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support your accusations. Like every single hoaxie ever... Well,maybe "shill" isn't the right word, and then again maybe it is exactly the right word. A shill is a person who helps another sell something while pretending to be unaffiliated with the product that is being sold and those who are selling it, in this case the moon landing hoax. It is beyond comprehension that NASA would intentionally erase these tapes if they were genuine. The only context within which it makes any sense at all is if the tapes were erased because they could be used to prove the moon landing was a hoax. Even if a single reel was worth 10,000,000 dollars, it still wouldn't make sense to erase them, that is unless you were destroying evidence of a crime. These tapes were claimed lost about the same time people started filing freedom of information requests to examine them and duplicate them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States 07/30/2015 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have trouble believing that profits from rights to PERSONAL stories would go to a government agency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 The money didn't go to NASA, the contract was with the astronauts, dimwit. Most of the astronauts were military personal who just got military pay, IOW not a whole lot. Check your quotes. I agree with you. that's why I was asking the Korean AC for a citation for his obviously bogus statement. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States 07/30/2015 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These tapes were claimed lost about the same time people started filing freedom of information requests to examine them and duplicate them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69914371 do you have any evidence that ANYONE filed any FOIA requests for these tapes? or that they would know what to do with them if they got them? These are video tapes. They are large reel to reel data tapes containing telemetry with a low quality video feed piggy backed on it. Each only last about 15 minutes. They have to be read with a special machine that no one in the public would have. The first time we knew they were lost is when someone AT NASA thought they MIGHT be able to get a slightly better video off of them than the other multiple copies we already had. Then they went looking for them. You only know they are gone because NASA told you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69914371 United States 07/30/2015 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoever believes NASA would erase the tapes from the Moon landing, is a complete idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60421770 They didn't. They destroyed fabricated evidence that because of advances in technology could easily prove they were faked. There are also numerous instances where the tapes could have been used to prove the inages recorded on them could not possibly have originated with the lunar surface, like for instance the acceleration due to gravity. I know most of you have seen those infamous images of Astronauts jumping from the last rung on the ladder down to the landing pad beneath it, but how many of you know that that single video can be used to prove it was hoaxed? What we should have seen is is an fall rate that appeared easily noticeably much longer than ti takes to fall the same distance on Earth, and the fact is the only tapes that can be used as evidence are the original first generation tapes. It could be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the tapes were made on earth. If the astronauts (or objects) fall at any greater of a rate that 1/6th the acceleration due to gravity on Earth, it's fake. They fall at very close to half the acceleration due to gravity on Earth in all of the videos I have analyzed, meaning the frame rates were simply slowed to create an off-worldy appearance to the "moonwalks". If these men were actually on the moon learning to walk with around @ 1/3th the weight and nearly twice the mass they were used to on Earth would have taken hours if not days. The fact is they would have been slipping and sliding and falling on their ass continuously because with their suits on they would have had twice the mass they did on Earth, but only half the weight, and most of that weight was positioned in a backpack that would have further made things difficult by putting their center of gravity well back form their hips. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69914371 United States 07/30/2015 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These tapes were claimed lost about the same time people started filing freedom of information requests to examine them and duplicate them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69914371 do you have any evidence that ANYONE filed any FOIA requests for these tapes? or that they would know what to do with them if they got them? These are video tapes. They are large reel to reel data tapes containing telemetry with a low quality video feed piggy backed on it. Each only last about 15 minutes. They have to be read with a special machine that no one in the public would have. The first time we knew they were lost is when someone AT NASA thought they MIGHT be able to get a slightly better video off of them than the other multiple copies we already had. Then they went looking for them. You only know they are gone because NASA told you. Yes, I do. I was one of at least a dozen researchers who have. |