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You've done nothing but lie, Max. for instance, you constantly claim you're not a ZT 'believer,' but your every action contradicts this. Ergo, you are a liar.

It's poor role-playing, being so disingenuous. Up your game or move it elsewhere.

Probably so. However, it's possible to treat that claim as a hypothesis and examine its validity. For instance, if there is a dark twin for planet earth on the other side of the sun so that we can't see it from here, do other planets also have dark twins orbiting in a similar way, and if so, wouldn't we see those dark twins from here? And if there is a dark twin behind the sun, have any of the space telescopes gone to a location where they would have seen the dark twin if it was there.

In other words, what is the real evidence that Nancy's claim of this dark twin is bs.

From the Wiki article on Counter-Earth:

If such a planet actually existed in our current scientific cosmology, as a spherical world that revolved around the sun, it would be permanently hidden behind the sun but nevertheless detectable from Earth, because of its gravitational influence upon the other planets of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed, as it was not accounted for in navigational calculation.

It must also be noted that the Earth orbit is not a circle but an ellipse, and in respect of Kepler's second law, a planet revolves faster when it is close to the star. So if the Counter-Earth followed the Earth on the same orbit with half a year of delay, it would sometimes be visible from Earth. Rather, to be hidden from Earth, the Counter-Earth would have an orbit symmetrical to Earth's one, not sharing the second focus.



Any planetary sized body at Earth's L3 point should have been visible by the NASA STEREO coronagraphs during the first half of 2007. The separation of the STEREO spacecraft from Earth would give them a view of the L3 point during the early phase of the mission. Later, as the spacecraft continued to separate, the L3 point drifted out of the field of view. Given the sensitivity of STEREO's COR2 coronagraph, anything larger than 100 km in diameter should have been detected.



Nancy claiming something about astronomy is usually evidence enough that it is BS.
She is never right.

The real evidence establishes beyond doubt that there is no Dark Twin.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 10/19/2009 11:53 AM

Hey, you've made, and continue to make, inaccurate statements about "debunkers." So, I say reap what you sew.

Excellent! What is your background if you don't mind me asking?

I'm just a dilettante with a keen interest in space travel and astronomy.
And I've have read loads of Science Fiction, so I knew that this was hardly a novel idea.
Counter-Earth is a notion that's been around for awhile, so there probably would be an article about it.
I know how to FIND stuff.

Do you see the ZetaTalk as a form of science fiction? At first I sort of looked at it in that manner but now feel it is rather destructive . . . especially to young people.

This ALL happened BEFORE you arrived at GLP. Funny that you know so much about it, and even the old threads (and they are very large threads) they were on.

You just outed yourself very nicely!

Some of you shills aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

An example of how far this stuff has gone is the Thread below: by Madoogan


Thread: NASA Vs. Mayans: Doomsday Won't Be in 2012


NASA Vs. Mayans: Doomsday Won't Be in 2012

There's been a lot of speculation and fear about the end of the world corresponding with the end of the Mayan calendar on Dec. 21, 2012. Sony's doomsday film "2012," set for release next month and based on the prediction that the world will end in three years, has put a spotlight on the theory.

A NASA scientists is trying to quell those fears and has condemned the film and the company's viral marketing campaign, The Washington Post reports.

Sony has set up a fake Web site for an organization called the Institute for Human Continuity which predicts the demise of the Earth using scientific language.

The site suggests "that in 2012 a series of cataclysmic forces will wreak havoc on our planet." It details what the world would be like after 2012, offers survival kits and asks people to sign up for a lottery to be saved. All of this is a little too realistic for Dr. David Morrison, a senior scientist at NASA's Astrobiology Institute.

Morrison says he's gotten nearly 1,000 e-mails from people who believe something catastrophic is about to befall the planet. He added that some of the letters have been from teenagers who said they would rather commit suicide than watch the world come to an end.

Sony claims it's obvious the Web site is a promotion for the movie. "It is very clear that this site is connected to a fictional movie," Vikki Luya, Sony's publicity director said. "This can readily be seen in the logos on the site."

Another planet colliding with Earth, the sun becoming a supernova and incinerating the Earth, and global flooding are among the theories that some people think will cause the end of world on Dec. 21, 2012.

[link to www.foxnews.com]
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."

Last Edited by George B on 10/19/2009 12:50 PM

Outed himself as what or in what way? Would you like to explain? No? I thought not...you usually don't. You're only good for making insults and assumptions.


And you're the dullest one.

Damn, Luser, talk about male-ass arguments --

Care to comment on how Nancy was pretending to be 'Elle' and got caught in the act?

Is that any way for your precious 'Emissary' to behave? sounds very STS to me.

You should be more careful with your loyalties, Luser. You've attached your puckered lips to the ass of a nutty old liar.

Weak-ass arguments, lol. Iz somebody changing my spelling?

life leaves its mark on every living body and it can and is unique, even if base genetic is identical.

re: Bush clone - nose was broken in one clone.

Doesn't matter...they would look exactly alike except for the minor difference the nose of ONE of them. You have no evidence that Bush was cloned. All you have is your belief based on some photos. Nothing more.

What organization 'cloned' the former President, Andrew? How did they perfect their technique, and when? Where are the clones now? Are other public figures being cloned as well?

Is there any other basis for your belief than Nancy's utterances?


If not, why would you pay her any credence when she's been WRONG about everything she's said since she started speaking?

I think the real Nancy died years ago. The "Zetas," knowing that Nancy's health was deteriorating, gathered genetic material from her during one of her abductions. Then, when the real Nancy died, the Zetas used a Xerox DocuColor 260 that they converted and combined with a Zeta Maturation Chamber. But, due to unforeseen problems with the genetic encoding, the clone came out a bit nuttier than the original. The off center glance and turned head while speaking on camera is one of the symptoms.

The astronomical insignificance of 2012:

[link to www.scribd.com]

[link to curious.astro.cornell.edu]

[link to www.slate.com]

"...the Zetas used a Xerox DocuColor 260 that they converted and combined with a Zeta Maturation Chamber."

:5:

What a canard!

Is this "clone" story used to divert attention away from the missing Planet which the whole Zetatalk hoax hinges on?

Fire the script writer for this saga. Geesh!
This storyline isn't even close to plausible.

JWD

PS: Scary thought that there could be more than one.
One WAS more than enough ;o)

Luser and his ASSumptions again. How do you know how long I was posting here as an AC before signing up with an account? You do know that people can read and post as AC's? Of course you do. You do it all the time to pump up Nancy's page count.

Those threads were my introduction to Nancy Lieder, so I remember them. I joined because I was getting banned too often by Nancy, someone suggested that she is more ban happy with ACs than with registered members.

Not to sharp, are you Luser and nasty to boot.

You mean there is more than one of her? Scary thought!

There's Mean Nancy, there's Nice Nancy, there's Gibberish Nancy...

They work in shifts, to cut down on the ratty bathrobe expenses.

It's a (not untypical) space age doomsday cult.

Nancy cribbed most of the elements from popular culture and new age woowoo.
The rare bits that are truly original are also even more ridiculous then the rest.

And yes. It's dangerous.

P R I C E L E S S !!

OH the HUMANITY of it ALL!!

Verified!!

There are three Nancy LIEDer's.

Hmmm....I wonder if they talk amongst themselves?

Now wouldn't that be one freaken woowoo conversation.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 10/19/2009 04:00 PM

Sample Conversation Among the 'Three Nancys:'

Nancy 1: Double, double, toil and trouble...
Nancy 2: That's not right! Uptick! Wobble!
Nancy 3: Incoming, soon!
Nancy 1: I said that first.
Nancy 2: Plane of the Ecliptic!
Nancy 3: Bobble, wobble, limp and hobble....
Nancy 1: Are we are Coast to Coast?
Nancy 2: Well *I* am. I don't know about you.
Nancy 3: Hush, I'm posting as ZetaMax...

You ceased to be humorous with that last item ...

Sorry, Nancy.

Three Nancy's would explain why they never get anything right and contradict each other so much. You see, in order to get it right, they all need to be on the same page, so to speak, and unfortunately the original Nancy wasn't the most literate subject. The Zetas have given up trying to get them to even read the same book, let alone be on the same page.