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Firstly, thank you for answering my posts -- albeit incompletely...


I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.


Very well. However, I have seen several, if no dozens, of experiments you CAN do yourself that demonstrate Nancy's ideas regarding a halted Earth are wrong, and therefore so is the claim of Zeta 100 percent accuracy. You won't perform one, nor address these glaring departure from reality. That seems like a rejection of the scientific method, to me.



The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.



Well, you, yourself, won't practice the scientific method. As an example, you have continually refused to do a long exposure photograph of the sky, which could lay to rest Nancy's claim of a wobble in the sky every six hours. Why should anyone practice what you, yourself, will not?

And, when they DO, and show that the sky is moving normally, you refuse to address that, as well. Seems odd, given your claim of being "on the fence," doesn't it?


I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
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Why would I leave now? It's just now getting good with the bunkers desperation growing now with every month that gets closer to showing that Nancy's lie is just that. Besides, you'll owe me a steak at the end of next year.
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Agreed - it is actually a fairly disturbing image. But that is what the debunkers are all about: drive away the curious from Nancy and the Zeta's WARNING by **ANY** means possible.
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Indeed, debunker spines are like over-cooked spaghetti - limp with no flavor.
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You're such a liar, Max. He presented no challenge...I did. And he ran from it each and every time. It's documented in these pages for everyone to see. Spin, Max...spin. It's also clearly documented here that you are NOT a fence sitter. It's obvious for all to see that you are nothing but a Nancy follower.

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THANKS!

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Let's post that again the way it should been done:

zetatards


We are taking this thread DOWN!!!

tombgrave
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Let us know when you start. So far, you and your little friend have failed each and every time.

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Not at all! This is a battle of UNCERTAINTY! I simply rail against the postured "Certainty" peddled by the debunkers. They act as if they have cornered the market on "knowledge".

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Yes, your statement is completely and totally absurd. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
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Not at all! This is a battle of UNCERTAINTY! I simply rail against the postured "Certainty" peddled by the debunkers. They act as if they have cornered the market on "knowledge".

_absurd

Yes, your statement is completely and totally absurd. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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This is why no one believes you when you claim to be a "fence sitter."

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I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
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But it doesn't take equipment like that to determine if the Earth is halted in orbit or not. This is just an excuse.
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This is why no one believes you when you claim to be a "fence sitter."
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
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Well, okay -- the only equipment you'd need would be a camera capable of long exposures and a tripod -- but let's do the poor man's way.

The Poor Man's Wobble Buster:

Get a long tube of some sort, maybe 18 inches long, with a good 4 inch aperture. Mount it on something permanent so you can center the North Star through its length, and the tube itself cannot move. Take notes for a few nights at various times on whether the North Star is still in the tube.

Does the North Star stay in the tube regardless of when you observe? If so, the wobble is busted and Nancy is wrong.

That didn't cost you much of anything, did it? Well, except belief in Nancy, of course...
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.
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Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?
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Pushing your auto-biography again I see.
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Pushing your auto-biography again I see.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.



Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?
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I know what you're thinking ... you're thinking you've just handed my ass to me.

You'd be **WRONG**!!

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Why would I leave now? It's just now getting good with the bunkers desperation growing now with every month that gets closer to showing that Nancy's lie is just that. Besides, you'll owe me a steak at the end of next year.
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Yes the bunker desperation will be the one sure thing on the increase around here. As soon as we hit the start of the year 2012 that will be Nancy's "goose cooked" for once and for all. Zetatalk and its failed claims have deservedly been ridiculed for many a year now. Even Nancy herself invited the throwing of "tomatoes" at her if the rogue planet never showed up(her statement was made somewhere around 2004, I think).
But the year 2012 is indeed special as Nancy has stated categorically that her rogue planet would appear and cause a geographical poleshift decisively before the year 2012 begins. There is "no out" for Nancy this time.

yes_sir If Ms LIEDer and her believers think they have it bad from the debunkers now; then wait until the year 2012. It's gonna get mighty rough for them and justifiably so.

yes_sir I cannot think off hand of any other person in the history of doomsday prediction making who has had such a complete FAIL RECORD as Nancy has achieved over so many years.
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Yes, the bunker desperation is increasing EXPONENTIALLY!
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.



Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?


I know what you're thinking ... you're thinking you've just handed my ass to me.

You'd be **WRONG**!!

:dwagain:
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How is that, Einstein?

Why would 74444 be wrong?

Or is this just another question that you fail to answer or that you ignore?
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And since YOU'RE HERE PARTICIPATING...that makes you a twerp too!

Congratulations, Max!

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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?
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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?
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I have been reading Nancy Lieder at GLP since 2002, and a year before that at Zetatalk.com, of which I have read her whole site at least a couple of times.
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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?
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User has been around here since then...or so he claims. It's hard to tell because back then, if he was really here, he didn't post with his current nom de plume. The others claim to have been following her for years but didn't post here until after 2003.

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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.



Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?


I know what you're thinking ... you're thinking you've just handed my ass to me.

You'd be **WRONG**!!

dwagain
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Well actually I know what you're thinking there, Melfy...you're thinking you've just handed your handed ass back to us but....

You'd be **WRONG**!!

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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?




I have been reading Nancy Lieder at GLP since 2002, and a year before that at Zetatalk.com, of which I have read her whole site at least a couple of times.
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Thanks User for the reply.

Have you ever found any of Nancy's doctrine as questionable?

Do you really believe that the earth is halted in orbit and the seasons are simulated by the zetas by tilting the earth?

These honest questions are not meant to belittle you. I'm just wondering how that belief can be maintained.

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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.



Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?


I know what you're thinking ... you're thinking you've just handed my ass to me.

You'd be **WRONG**!!

 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


And, alas, you are incorrect about what I am thinking.

I asked you a question: Why are you not heeding my warning about the Sky Falling? What is your reasoning? These are not rhetorical questions.
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Oh, and your comments regarding the Wobble-buster would be appreciated as well, Zetamax.
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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?




I have been reading Nancy Lieder at GLP since 2002, and a year before that at Zetatalk.com, of which I have read her whole site at least a couple of times.
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Damn...what a waste of time and bandwidth!
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Thanks User for the reply.

Have you ever found any of Nancy's doctrine as questionable?

Do you really believe that the earth is halted in orbit and the seasons are simulated by the zetas by tilting the earth?

These honest questions are not meant to belittle you. I'm just wondering how that belief can be maintained.

edited for spelling
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I've asked him the same question...only to be attacked.
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Thanks User for the reply.

Have you ever found any of Nancy's doctrine as questionable?

Do you really believe that the earth is halted in orbit and the seasons are simulated by the zetas by tilting the earth?

These honest questions are not meant to belittle you. I'm just wondering how that belief can be maintained.

edited for spelling

I've asked him the same question...only to be attacked.
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Well, being an ex-cult member myself (not zetacult), I can understand the realisation of defending a failed cult and the hostility that comes along with seeing the whole belief system come crashing down.

It's hard to deal with. But in order to find some kind of peace in life, I would walk away from a failed cult, rather than defend it. To defend failure is to be a fool.

I'm not going to judge anyone that is fooled into following a cult. It's just sad to see the ones that don't realise that they've been duped and yet defend it beyond common sense.

I kinda feel sorry for Nancy in a way, but yet, because neither she nor any of the zetacult followers will admit error, then they are opened up to ridicule and disdain.

I can't imagine a belief system that harbours fear and paranoia. Life must suck being afraid of ones own imagination, but to each their own I guess.

I'm more curious about what ZetaMax's opinion is about the previous question I posed. I hope that the cult members can muster up the courage to engage in some discussion. Maybe I'm asking too much.
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Thanks User for the reply.

Have you ever found any of Nancy's doctrine as questionable?

Do you really believe that the earth is halted in orbit and the seasons are simulated by the zetas by tilting the earth?

These honest questions are not meant to belittle you. I'm just wondering how that belief can be maintained.

edited for spelling

I've asked him the same question...only to be attacked.
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I have a little different view of things. If anybody goes to the zetatalk website, and reads the zeta's explanation for just about any issue you could ask about...it mirrors much of what you find in the Phoenix Journals as it relates to anything about religious belief systems and how the universe works.

I do believe that Nancy is a legit contactee and the Zeta's
are the good "service to others" ET's. I think her selling her belief of a Planet X is mostly to confuse TPTB, wittingly or unwittingly. The Phoenix Journals state that planet X is still 1600 years away, and that what we are seeing now on SOHO to the right of the sun is actually a mothership and other ships.

We are going to experience earthchanges that will equal an extinction event, not because of planet x, or a coronal mass injection of the sun, or because we're passing the galactic plain. Mother earth is a sentient being, and she has been promised by heaven that she will become a 5th density planet, where no evil can exist. She must cleanse herself of ALL EVIL caused by humanity, becuse we have abused her and are not living the laws of creation and the universe.(They can be found in Phoenix Journal 27, if you want the ultimate truth on how we should be living.)

I encourage all to checkout the Phoenix Journals as time is very short for humanity as we know it. May you all find the red road of truth....God bless.





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