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Oh, and your comments regarding the Wobble-buster would be appreciated as well, Zetamax.

To defend failure is to be a fool.

Thanks User for the reply.

Have you ever found any of Nancy's doctrine as questionable?

Do you really believe that the earth is halted in orbit and the seasons are simulated by the zetas by tilting the earth?

These honest questions are not meant to belittle you. I'm just wondering how that belief can be maintained.

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I've asked him the same question...only to be attacked.


I have a little different view of things. If anybody goes to the zetatalk website, and reads the zeta's explanation for just about any issue you could ask about...it mirrors much of what you find in the Phoenix Journals as it relates to anything about religious belief systems and how the universe works.

I do believe that Nancy is a legit contactee and the Zeta's
are the good "service to others" ET's. I think her selling her belief of a Planet X is mostly to confuse TPTB, wittingly or unwittingly. The Phoenix Journals state that planet X is still 1600 years away, and that what we are seeing now on SOHO to the right of the sun is actually a mothership and other ships.

We are going to experience earthchanges that will equal an extinction event, not because of planet x, or a coronal mass injection of the sun, or because we're passing the galactic plain. Mother earth is a sentient being, and she has been promised by heaven that she will become a 5th density planet, where no evil can exist. She must cleanse herself of ALL EVIL caused by humanity, becuse we have abused her and are not living the laws of creation and the universe.(They can be found in Phoenix Journal 27, if you want the ultimate truth on how we should be living.)

I encourage all to checkout the Phoenix Journals as time is very short for humanity as we know it. May you all find the red road of truth....God bless.

I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?




I have been reading Nancy Lieder at GLP since 2002, and a year before that at Zetatalk.com, of which I have read her whole site at least a couple of times.


Damn...what a waste of time and bandwidth!

To defend failure is to be a fool.



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To defend failure is to be a fool.








Lol! for sure Max. We are all fools indeed!

Your whole philosophy re responding to and chasing around Nancy Lieder for all of these years would seem to be an even LARGER waste of bandwidth. Imagine that???

For such a busy man you sure do have a lot of extra time on your hands. Dolt!

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?

I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?




I have been reading Nancy Lieder at GLP since 2002, and a year before that at Zetatalk.com, of which I have read her whole site at least a couple of times.


Damn...what a waste of time and bandwidth!





Your whole philosophy re responding to and chasing around Nancy Lieder for all of these years would seem to be an even LARGER waste of bandwidth. Imagine that???

For such a busy man you sure do have a lot of extra time on your hands. Dolt!

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?


I would LOVE nothing better. However, wishful thinking is not my tendency.

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?


I would LOVE nothing better. However, wishful thinking is not my tendency.



Ok Max,, I'll ask you the same question...

According to Nancy, the earth is halted in orbit and the zetas are tilting the earth to simulate the seasons.

Do you believe that? If so, would you be willing to discuss how that can possibly be?

The wobble may be incredibly infrequent and barely perceptible. Not detecting it does not mean it does not exist. I have no "stake" in dis-proving Nancy. My life is unaffected either way.

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?

I see it that way.

But approaching 2012 we will see the woo woos turn pro. I expect all kind of shit ... from friendly woo woos to terrible stuff like sects that commit mass suicide.

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?


I would LOVE nothing better. However, wishful thinking is not my tendency.

The wobble may be incredibly infrequent and barely perceptible. Not detecting it does not mean it does not exist. I have no "stake" in dis-proving Nancy. My life is unaffected either way.



But that isn't what Nancy claims. She has stated it is 4 times daily, and has mentioned it being in the TENS of DEGREES. Why don't you ever challenge her about this?

So, despite observational evidence that clearly contradicts Nancy's claims utterly, and despite your lack of "stake," you still defend Nancy's idea. Why? And how much disproof is ENOUGH disproof to convince you that Nancy just happens to be wrong?

I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?

Hi User,

Would you be willing to discuss with civility and answer?

My question still is..

Do you believe that the earth has been halted in orbit and the zetas are tilting the earth to simulate the seasons?

Ok Max,, I'll ask you the same question...

According to Nancy, the earth is halted in orbit and the zetas are tilting the earth to simulate the seasons.

Do you believe that? If so, would you be willing to discuss how that can possibly be?

Good point, It seems like that type of mentality certainly goes around every few years. I'm wondering if there is a belief system that doesn't feed the fear and paranoia. Maybe a belief system that brings peace of mind?

Ok Max,, I'll ask you the same question...

According to Nancy, the earth is halted in orbit and the zetas are tilting the earth to simulate the seasons.

Do you believe that? If so, would you be willing to discuss how that can possibly be?

We've already asked Max that as well. He won't give a straight answer. When we asked him, he danced around a bit and then said that the "Zetas" were screening our memories to ensure that we see what we would expect when looking at the sky.

Indeed, debunker spines are like over-cooked spaghetti - limp with no flavor.

You're such a liar, Max. He presented no challenge...I did. And he ran from it each and every time. It's documented in these pages for everyone to see. Spin, Max...spin. It's also clearly documented here that you are NOT a fence sitter. It's obvious for all to see that you are nothing but a Nancy follower.

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I wonder if the year 2012 will be nothing more than what Y2K was? Nothing more than paranoia and religious cults feeding the fearful to nothing but a scam?


I would LOVE nothing better. However, wishful thinking is not my tendency.

Good point, It seems like that type of mentality certainly goes around every few years. I'm wondering if there is a belief system that doesn't feed the fear and paranoia. Maybe a belief system that brings peace of mind?

Hi User,

Would you be willing to discuss with civility and answer?

My question still is..

Do you believe that the earth has been halted in orbit and the zetas are tilting the earth to simulate the seasons?

User is a funny, funny person. He claims he wants serious discussion. But when asked serious, legitimate questions - he turns tail and runs away. For instance, back in December, he claimed that earthquakes were increasing. He referred us to a chart that someone made. On that chart was a link to the USGS where the person supposedly got the data. It turned out that the link didn't even exist and the data was falsified. When we asked User about it, he repeatedly refused to discuss the matter. Then, about a week later, he made a vague statement about fireballs and said that "debunkers" would be afraid to discuss that. We asked him what he meant by his statement about fireballs. Again, he repeatedly refused to answer. So, don't be surprised if he refuses to answer your question. In addition, you won't find him in any of Nancy's threads asking questions or engaging in discussion with those that believe her. User has continuously proven that he is NOT interested in serious discussion. All he's interested in is attacking anyone who doesn't believe what Nancy says.

For such a busy man you sure do have a lot of extra time on your hands. Dolt!

Any discussion of beliefs will lead to ridicule in this thread, so sticking to the content of zetatalk is the only reasonable course.

I would never disparage anyone's beliefs. However, when
those beliefs are promoted as alternatives to scientific
reality then I do have a right to criticize someone trying
to claim that our reality is something else, especially when
all they have to back it up with is "Trust me even though I
told a Great White Lie".