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So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!

 
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So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
So those who believe the government when they said "building 7 collapsed due to fire" need another story.

This building has been ablaze big time all bloody day and hasnt collapsed!!



Fire is engulfing Moscow’s Federation Tower – a skyscraper under construction which is set to become Europe’s tallest building. About 300 square meters are ablaze; people have been evacuated from the building, in the city’s business center.


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They have know got the fire under control by just using helicopters to put it out using the river to load the helicopters.

So please tell me,

Why didnt The american Government do this on 9/11?????!!!!!!!
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Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


nothing special about it, more likely more substantial in the us due to building codes, structural steel framing, it's what's for dinner, essentially all scrapers are the same, its pretty much the only way to build tall buildings. the steel frame holds everthing up and everything is added on.
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Thread: What planes?

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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
And why this building is on fire?

What is the conspiracy behind it?
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Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.

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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
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Fire is the similarity. Building 7 was not hit by a plane, so why did it fall.
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In mother russia skyscrapers topple fires!
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Didn’t collapse.



Didn’t collapse.


Didn’t collapse.



Didn’t collapse.



Earth quakes can not even break them



And then there is this.

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pull it, pull it!
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
well it's hard to compare a trash fire to a fully fueled jet crashing into a building at high speed. bad comparison. if the russian building had 80,000 lbs of jet fuel catch fire and explode maybe....
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And why this building is on fire?

What is the conspiracy behind it?
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A 9/11 truther wanted to prove a point?
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well it's hard to compare a trash fire to a fully fueled jet crashing into a building at high speed. bad comparison. if the russian building had 80,000 lbs of jet fuel catch fire and explode maybe....
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Building 7 was not hit by an airplane. It just burned and collapsed.
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And it won't collapse.. Don't understand how people even think 911 was not an inside job..
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
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Magical building!
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well it's hard to compare a trash fire to a fully fueled jet crashing into a building at high speed. bad comparison. if the russian building had 80,000 lbs of jet fuel catch fire and explode maybe....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13111574


The bulk of the jet fuel burned off within a few seconds in the atomized fire ball that burned outside of the building.
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Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11726902


Something very suspicious about this.

How many commercial jumbo jets are painted black/grey?

Hmmmm.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11726902


Building 7, was not hit by an airplane, and no jet fuel burned within the building.
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Fill it full of really awkward, secret government documents. It'll collapse then.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Building #7 was supposed to be 'attacked' by the white van carrying those explosives on George Washington bridge that morning.
It was pre-rigged to expedite that particular impact/explosion to thwart the investigation into the 2.3 trillion missing dollars.
But apparently the left hand didn't know what the right hand was up to that day, and the 'hijacked' planes got to their marks first.

Those attacks resolved billions of dollars worth of headaches. From the asbestos fines that Silverstein was facing to the missing loot, Rumsfeld was responsible for.
But....we had a much BIGGER problem after 8:30AM on Tuesday September 11, 2001.

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Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


So... you're saying there's a first time for everything?


Just because something has never happened before doesn't mean it can't ever happen...


But yea, back to topic - the tower burning now is identical to tower 7 (structure, materials, height, etc) and they both started on fire in the exact same way so we can easily deduce that they will behave in exactly the same way.

Is that what you were saying, OP?
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
People!! There's this new thing called the internet, and you can use it to study and find out interesting facts! For instance JET FUEL sounds really powerful and Explosive, However the Fact of the matter is it isn't!! Its basically kerosene which is lighter fluid that you put on your barbecue. Which is somewhere between Gasoline and Diesel fuel as far as Explosive power.

Why don't you use Gasoline on your Barbecue? Because its Explosive!! and will burn your hair right off your face!

But you can use Kerosene! Because it isn't as explosive!! it takes along time to burn and at LOWER temperatures than gasoline...

That cant be true can it???? of course its true!!! Because in the world of Engines Explosions are BAD! so they need a fuel that burns at a slower more controlled rate.

Just like Race fuel it isn't More explosive than regular Gas.. Its Less explosive than regular gas! for the same reason a controlled Burn over longer periods makes for a longer lasting engine with lower overall temperatures and more power through increased Torque.

So stop saying " well it was a Plane Loaded with JET Fuel" and realize that its the opposite of what your implying! Jet fuel would do less damage and burn cooler over a much longer period of time and would not explode.

That's why Movie producers would never use it! It would be boring to watch..
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Building #7 was supposed to be 'attacked' by the white van carrying those explosives on George Washington bridge that morning.
It was pre-rigged to expedite that particular impact/explosion to thwart the investigation into the 2.3 trillion missing dollars.
But apparently the left hand didn't know what the right hand was up to that day, and the 'hijacked' planes got to their marks first.

Those attacks resolved billions of dollars worth of headaches. From the asbestos fines that Silverstein was facing to the missing loot, Rumsfeld was responsible for.
But....we had a much BIGGER problem after 8:30AM on Tuesday September 11, 2001.

Terrorist. Tyranny. Terror. September 11th. Al Qaeda. Bin Laden. Saddam. Hussein. Weapons of mass destruction.
Repeat.


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I had never thought about the van, good point, they messed up the plan and instead of having a terrorist van bringing down building 7 they just had it collapse on it's own.

Who cares anyways, it's not like the sheeple will notice anything, unless the tv tells them of course wink
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11726902


You need to look in the mirror bro, you can't even form a coherent sentence.

No jet slammed into 7. Retard.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
who's the government shill that keeps on insisting WT7 was hit by an aircraft or splashed by aviation fuel? nothing hit WT7. it was pulled. go back to your handlers and get more training. you're an EPIC FAIL as are the rest of your government cronies are.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
So those who believe the government when they said "building 7 collapsed due to fire" need another story.

This building has been ablaze big time all bloody day and hasnt collapsed!!



Fire is engulfing Moscow’s Federation Tower – a skyscraper under construction which is set to become Europe’s tallest building. About 300 square meters are ablaze; people have been evacuated from the building, in the city’s business center.


[link to rt.com]

They have know got the fire under control by just using helicopters to put it out using the river to load the helicopters.

So please tell me,

Why didnt The american Government do this on 9/11?????!!!!!!!
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*** OF COURSE *** building 7 didn't collapse due to fire. Anyone who actually BELIEVES it did, has the brains of an ice cube.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11726902


Building 7, was not hit by an airplane, and no jet fuel burned within the building.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3271634



Even if it had, jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt hardened steel. And the jet fuel all burns up in one big flash ANYWAY. The only thing LEFT burning, is office materials, and building materials... NONE of which burn anywhere NEAR hot enough to melt steel.
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you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11726902


Building 7, was not hit by an airplane, and no jet fuel burned within the building.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3271634



Even if it had, jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt hardened steel. And the jet fuel all burns up in one big flash ANYWAY. The only thing LEFT burning, is office materials, and building materials... NONE of which burn anywhere NEAR hot enough to melt steel.
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There was an experiment that showed that jet fuel is hot enough able to weaken steel so that it bends and collapses. But that however only concerns the tall towers not building 7.
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Re: So Europes Tallest building Is Still On Fire and Hasnt Collapsed. Building 7 Didnt therefore Collapse "due to fire"!
Do you have a degree in engineering?

If so, please tell us the similarities between Building 7 and this building.

Thanks.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


you know WTF the OP is saying.

NEVER in the history of mankind has a bldg came down due to fire like the towers did on 911.

NEVER.
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


Ummm.....yoi retards like to omit yhe part snout a jumbo jet full of jet fuel
Slamming into the trade centers... Fucking retards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11726902


yeah...

and you OBVIOUSLY don't know that jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel and HTF did steel and concrete turn to pulverized dust?
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