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Kay User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Orphanage From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about the institutions for orphans. For the band, see Orphanage (band). An orphanage is an institution dedicated to caring for orphans (children who have lost their parents). The term is sometimes also used to denote institutions where children reside without cohabiting parents, irrespective of the life status of the latter. Though various practices encouraged support of orphans -- Jewish law prescribed care for the widow and orphan, and Athenian law supported all orphans of those killed in military service until the age of eighteen -- the first orphanages, called orphanotrophia, were founded in the first centuries AD. The care of orphans was particularly commended to bishops, and during the Middle Ages, to monasteries. In many times and places, orphanages have been founded to provide an alternative to child abandonment. ============== So, see, first known organized care of an orphan (first orphanage) was done in the first centuries AD, commended to BISHOPS. That is a Christian term, a Christian institution. |
Naturyl (OP) User ID: 118783 United States 07/22/2006 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And your problem is that you you are spiritually and intellectually retarded. You will never grow up, but your descendants will. Just know that your children will think more like me than you do, and your grandchildren will think more like me than your children did. And one fine day far in the future, mankind will finally relegate your precious fantasies and delusions to the dustbin altogether. It's going to happen, it's happening now, and you know it. Your kind is on the way out, and that's why you are so threatened. The Dark Ages are finally drawing to a close, and even though you people are doing your level best to ressurect them, you are going to fail. That's called progress, and it is the real "gospel." :) Everybody gets the Nat they deserve. |
HeidiLore User ID: 85208 United States 07/22/2006 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blah blah blah Christians invented everything, noone ever did anything else. YAWN. Visit my website... [link to heidi-lore.tripod.com] Need to email? [email protected] Visit the GLP video site and click on groups: [link to youtube.com] _____________ The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference. I believe I can see the future, 'cause I repeat the same routine. I think I used to have a purpose, but then again, it might have been a dream |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kay, *You* are "utterly ridiculous" Quoting: BlueDolphinand that's putting it kindly. :clogic: I see, it is 'ridiculous' to show you that every step of social progress made in the last 200 years has been pushed by the Christian Church? Why is that ridiculous? Because it doesn't jive with your brainwashed attitude of Christianity? The one you got watching the boob tube? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 99803 United States 07/22/2006 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Jesus and Ramana Maharshi would of been good friends. I think the teachings of Jesus were non-dualistic, nothing but peace, love, and harmony. Of course this is apparent if you read the new testament in Aramaic. It has a completely different feel to it. People seem to forget that Jesus didn't speak fluent English from a western perspective. Here is something for those to think about that quote scripture in English word for word: Old Hebrew words tend to run into each other and are not divided like English. There is also a custom of leaving out vowels. A slight change will alter the significance of any sentence. There were 47 translators of the King James version of the Bible. Only 3 of these were Hebrew scholars. 2 of them died before Psalms was translated. Also, any translation that disrupted current belief was discarded. It goes on and on. So, I'm not even a Christian (well, in the widely-accepted meaning of the word), but I have taken the time to read the Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. So from my perspective quoting scripture in English is absurd. |
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Kay User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And your problem is that you you are spiritually and intellectually retarded. Quoting: NaturylYou will never grow up, but your descendants will. Just know that your children will think more like me than you do, and your grandchildren will think more like me than your children did. And one fine day far in the future, mankind will finally relegate your precious fantasies and delusions to the dustbin altogether. It's going to happen, it's happening now, and you know it. Your kind is on the way out, and that's why you are so threatened. The Dark Ages are finally drawing to a close, and even though you people are doing your level best to ressurect them, you are going to fail. That's called progress, and it is the real "gospel." :) I think I just mentioned that it was my son who reminded me of Florence Nightingalem universities, hospitals. All achievements of Christian churches. The question is, why would anyone want to abandon this institution that has provided mankind with inspiration to achieve so much progress? It is bizarre. The elimination of polygamy, modern nursing, modern universities, hospitals, orphanages, women's rights, abolition of slavery, civil rights, all these benefits came because these people were devout Christians! And you think mankind would be so foolish as to throw away the catalyst of these major progressive movements? I don't think so. |
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Kay User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You want to toss aside that resume of achievement, then fine - do it. But don't underestimate Christianity. It has great capacity for good. It has proven that. So when you guys go off mocking Jesus, mocking the Church, I hope you just try googling some of these things. I have already posted most of this on Naturyl's other thread. Much of it is just from wikipedia. Origins of great movement, great social progress - they came from devout Christians who received their inspiration from Jesus Christ, who came and died for the sins of man so that we could live abundantly. |
Naturyl (OP) User ID: 118783 United States 07/22/2006 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And your problem is that you you are spiritually and intellectually retarded. Quoting: Kay 72054You will never grow up, but your descendants will. Just know that your children will think more like me than you do, and your grandchildren will think more like me than your children did. And one fine day far in the future, mankind will finally relegate your precious fantasies and delusions to the dustbin altogether. It's going to happen, it's happening now, and you know it. Your kind is on the way out, and that's why you are so threatened. The Dark Ages are finally drawing to a close, and even though you people are doing your level best to ressurect them, you are going to fail. That's called progress, and it is the real "gospel." :) I think I just mentioned that it was my son who reminded me of Florence Nightingalem universities, hospitals. All achievements of Christian churches. The question is, why would anyone want to abandon this institution that has provided mankind with inspiration to achieve so much progress? It is bizarre. The elimination of polygamy, modern nursing, modern universities, hospitals, orphanages, women's rights, abolition of slavery, civil rights, all these benefits came because these people were devout Christians! And you think mankind would be so foolish as to throw away the catalyst of these major progressive movements? I don't think so. LOL. Better put down that crack pipe before you burn yourself. If you think that Christianity is progressive, try explaining the 1000 year Dark Age caused by the Catholic church. Try explaining the Inquisition. Try explaining the Crusades. Oh, wait, I guess you'll say they weren't "real Christians," right? Well, guess what? When Christians of the future are trying to apologize for the current warmongering and callousness of the right-wing church, they are going to say "those weren't real Christians" as well. So how does it feel to be a fake Christian? You wouldn't know progress if it converted your grandchild to atheism. And you know what? It will do just that. The only thing you can do to stop it is destroy the entire human race, and true to form, you're doing your best to do just that. I don't believe in the devil, but if I did, people like you would be the best evidence of his existence. Everybody gets the Nat they deserve. |
Æon User ID: 104845 United States 07/22/2006 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You want to toss aside that resume of achievement, then fine - do it. Quoting: Kay 72054But don't underestimate Christianity. It has great capacity for good. It has proven that. So when you guys go off mocking Jesus, mocking the Church, I hope you just try googling some of these things. I have already posted most of this on Naturyl's other thread. Much of it is just from wikipedia. Origins of great movement, great social progress - they came from devout Christians who received their inspiration from Jesus Christ, who came and died for the sins of man so that we could live abundantly. Your problem, Kay, is that you are entirely too selective about whom you call 'Christians'. If they're Christians who do bad, you convince yourself that they simply are not Christians. If they go on Crusades and kill all unbelievers, they're just not Christians. Furthermore, you ignore the fact that the Bible condones many things which you claim Christians gave us. The Bible says you can have as many wives as you can take care of. The Bible says that slaves should obey their masters. The Bible never told men that they should go to the back of the Church and later ask their wives about what was said. Are there Christians who did good in the world? Most certainly. Are there non-Christians who did good? Of course... Ave Gæ , morituri te salutamus! |
BlueDolphin User ID: 33454 United States 07/22/2006 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naturyl, you can't reason with ignorance. Ignorance will always win. Although, perhaps your seeds will eventually blossom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 99803Remember: Limitation = Safety. Hard to break someone else's walls. But you already know this. :-) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>> yup, but in the interest of balance and equal air-time, it's good for his efforts at reasoning to be heard ...nothing is in vain ! ...... <<< !! VIVE LA RESISTANCE !! >>> |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 99803 United States 07/22/2006 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | christ is within! look there. Quoting: effzeeYes, indeed! Along with the keys to life. As Jesus said, most likely in Aramaic: Ninhar nurakun qedam bneynasha "Allow the sacred light of your being to illuminate all of your communities, inside and out." That's the real meaning of Matthew 5:16. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And your problem is that you you are spiritually and intellectually retarded. Quoting: NaturylYou will never grow up, but your descendants will. Just know that your children will think more like me than you do, and your grandchildren will think more like me than your children did. And one fine day far in the future, mankind will finally relegate your precious fantasies and delusions to the dustbin altogether. It's going to happen, it's happening now, and you know it. Your kind is on the way out, and that's why you are so threatened. The Dark Ages are finally drawing to a close, and even though you people are doing your level best to ressurect them, you are going to fail. That's called progress, and it is the real "gospel." :) I think I just mentioned that it was my son who reminded me of Florence Nightingalem universities, hospitals. All achievements of Christian churches. The question is, why would anyone want to abandon this institution that has provided mankind with inspiration to achieve so much progress? It is bizarre. The elimination of polygamy, modern nursing, modern universities, hospitals, orphanages, women's rights, abolition of slavery, civil rights, all these benefits came because these people were devout Christians! And you think mankind would be so foolish as to throw away the catalyst of these major progressive movements? I don't think so. LOL. Better put down that crack pipe before you burn yourself. If you think that Christianity is progressive, try explaining the 1000 year Dark Age caused by the Catholic church. Try explaining the Inquisition. Try explaining the Crusades. Oh, wait, I guess you'll say they weren't "real Christians," right? Well, guess what? When Christians of the future are trying to apologize for the current warmongering and callousness of the right-wing church, they are going to say "those weren't real Christians" as well. So how does it feel to be a fake Christian? You wouldn't know progress if it converted your grandchild to atheism. And you know what? It will do just that. The only thing you can do to stop it is destroy the entire human race, and true to form, you're doing your best to do just that. I don't believe in the devil, but if I did, people like you would be the best evidence of his existence. I'd rather be a 'fake' Christian than a fool that you have proven yourself to be. You proved yourself to be a fool on your other thread, where you lied and said, 'started' and 'caused' are different words, saying Christianity caused polygamy, which by the way, Aeon, the New Testament banned. Old Testament is Hebrew, New Testament Christian. So, yes, Christianity DID ban polygamy. Only a fool would try to wiggle out of that one! Instead of admitting your error, you showed that you are intellectually dishonest both to yourself and to others. |
Kay User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And no, there is no going back 1000 years to explain the Inquisition or The Dark Ages. They were barbaric people behaving barbaric in a barbaric culture. How about we look at the last 200 years, where we know the culture and can relate to it? If you do, you will see that EVERY major social progress was instituted by the Christian Church. |
Naturyl (OP) User ID: 118783 United States 07/22/2006 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are silly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 120054Christ will be returning with an ARMY. Calling him a leftist peacenik exposes the limited scope of certain understanding. Black people tend not to adhere to white men's principals. What are you talking about? Who here is black? How would you know? In addition, what could racial issues possibly have to do with the subject matter? Ride the short bus much? Everybody gets the Nat they deserve. |
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Kay User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that is mocking Jesus' words. Mocking his style of speaking in parables and in imagery. You are directly mocking Jesus' words. You can of course do that if you want, but why lie? Why say, "I like Jesus" and be a hypocrite? |
HeidiLore User ID: 85208 United States 07/22/2006 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And no, there is no going back 1000 years to explain the Inquisition or The Dark Ages. Quoting: Kay 72054They were barbaric people behaving barbaric in a barbaric culture. How about we look at the last 200 years, where we know the culture and can relate to it? If you do, you will see that EVERY major social progress was instituted by the Christian Church. Every social progress? Abortion, feminism? Punk music? Visit my website... [link to heidi-lore.tripod.com] Need to email? [email protected] Visit the GLP video site and click on groups: [link to youtube.com] _____________ The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference. I believe I can see the future, 'cause I repeat the same routine. I think I used to have a purpose, but then again, it might have been a dream |
Naturyl (OP) User ID: 118783 United States 07/22/2006 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And no, there is no going back 1000 years to explain the Inquisition or The Dark Ages. Quoting: Kay 72054They were barbaric people behaving barbaric in a barbaric culture. How about we look at the last 200 years, where we know the culture and can relate to it? If you do, you will see that EVERY major social progress was instituted by the Christian Church. You really think that barbarianism magically disappeared 200 years ago? Your spiritually retarded church is STILL the NUMBER ONE obstacle to social progress in the Western world, as well as the NUMBER ONE instigator of war. Fundies oppose every kind of welfare program, education program, birth control program, social security program, etc. What you do NOT oppose is every half-baked war Bush and his pals propose. You also don't oppose anything that puts green dollar bills in your pocket, because you sold Jesus out in favor of Mammon a long time ago. You really have no leg to stand on here. Your only argument is that Christianity was bullied into finally rejecting the very worst human rights abuses a century or two ago, very grudgingly and very reluctantly, and only because of pressure from people who actually have morals (unlike you). You are still doing your level best to hamper, belittle, and undermine progess wherever you can. As always, you and your religious pals represent everything that is morally, intellectually, and spiritually bankrupt. Anyone who is not brainwashed by your pet cult knows this. It's as plain as the nose on George Bush's Christian face. Everybody gets the Nat they deserve. |
Zaphod Beeblbrox User ID: 83027 United States 07/22/2006 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are silly. Quoting: NaturylChrist will be returning with an ARMY. Calling him a leftist peacenik exposes the limited scope of certain understanding. Black people tend not to adhere to white men's principals. What are you talking about? Who here is black? How would you know? In addition, what could racial issues possibly have to do with the subject matter? Ride the short bus much? He's saying Jesus is black genius. |
Kay User ID: 72054 United States 07/22/2006 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And no, there is no going back 1000 years to explain the Inquisition or The Dark Ages. Quoting: NaturylThey were barbaric people behaving barbaric in a barbaric culture. How about we look at the last 200 years, where we know the culture and can relate to it? If you do, you will see that EVERY major social progress was instituted by the Christian Church. You really think that barbarianism magically disappeared 200 years ago? Your spiritually retarded church is STILL the NUMBER ONE obstacle to social progress in the Western world, as well as the NUMBER ONE instigator of war. Fundies oppose every kind of welfare program, education program, birth control program, social security program, etc. What you do NOT oppose is every half-baked war Bush and his pals propose. You also don't oppose anything that puts green dollar bills in your pocket, because you sold Jesus out in favor of Mammon a long time ago. You really have no leg to stand on here. Your only argument is that Christianity was bullied into finally rejecting the very worst human rights abuses a century or two ago, very grudgingly and very reluctantly, and only because of pressure from people who actually have morals (unlike you). You are still doing your level best to hamper, belittle, and undermine progess wherever you can. As always, you and your religious pals represent everything that is morally, intellectually, and spiritually bankrupt. Anyone who is not brainwashed by your pet cult knows this. It's as plain as the nose on George Bush's Christian face. You are an idiot who doesn't even know where to go to find out what Christians really think. If you had been on this board more than a couple of days you would KNOW what Christians think. We post it here. You could have kept you mouth SHUT for a couple of days and LEARNED SOMETHING from Christians. Instead you babble off about a bunch of nonsense about George Bush being a Christian. What a load of nonsense, you really are an idiot if you think that! He is Skull and Bones, a tool for Illuminati and globalists and always has been. He goes to Bohemian Grove, where they do Satanic rituals. Alex Jones has done work on this, he is a CHRISTIAN by the way. Do you think that Christians go to secret locations with the world elite and do satanic rituals? Why don't you just shut-up and try to learn something for a change? Maybe you don't know everything. |