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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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There are two LEO vehicles with lights flashing at the little parking lot to the left (looking down from the gates) on that little high spot on the bank overlooking the top section of the MS.

Some intrepid citizen reporter being arrested...or...???
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HOURLY DATA
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DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET STORAGE
AF OUTFLOW
CFS INFLOW
CFS RIV REL
CFS RAIN
INCHES BAT VOL
VOLTS
05/14/2019 17:00 889.21 3,369,958 9,513 11,438 7,496 42.38 13.4
05/14/2019 18:00 889.21 3,369,958 9,417 11,439 7,475 42.38 13.4
05/14/2019 19:00 889.21 3,369,958 9,543 9,552 7,496 42.38 13.5
05/14/2019 20:00 889.21 3,369,958 9,429 10,470 7,496 42.38 13.4
05/14/2019 21:00 889.22 3,370,110 9,452 10,471 7,496 42.38 13.4
05/14/2019 22:00 889.22 3,370,110 9,502 9,364 7,475 42.38 13.5
05/14/2019 23:00 889.23 3,370,263 9,543 9,371 7,496 42.38 13.5
05/15/2019 00:00 889.23 3,370,263 9,505 10,296 7,475 42.38 13.5
05/15/2019 01:00 889.23 3,370,263 9,416 10,274 7,496 42.38 13.4
05/15/2019 02:00 889.24 3,370,416 9,661 10,705 7,496 42.38 13.4
05/15/2019 03:00 889.25 3,370,569 9,481 11,629 7,496 42.38 13.4
05/15/2019 04:00 889.26 3,370,722 9,478 11,469 7,475 42.38 13.4

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Steel fails from ductile fatigue cycling, so the cracks only grow when they use the gates. As long as they limit the number of open-close cycles they can limit the crack growth. Cracking is expected and starts long before failure happens, indeed "failure" typically happens because a part grows too large to function (because of stretching and/or cracking), not because it actually breaks. The behavior of watching cracks grow is standard procedure and works within a fairly large margin of certainty

HOWEVER

Something like this dam should be held to a much higher standard. Even a 1 % chance of sudden failure is totally unacceptable. A pipeline? No worries. Bridge? Okay, fine. Horrible if it fails, yes. Lives lost, most likely. But just the top third of this dam contains approximately 5 PETAJOULES of potential energy. Suddenly draining 2 million acrefeet from that dam would release as much energy as a 1 megaton nuke.

Extreme scenario? Yes. Unlikely even now? Probably, I don't have access to reliable information. Worth protecting against even the tiniest chance, at any cost? Absolutely.
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Excellent post


Is it normal for a brand new spillway to crack all over from 15,000 CFS? Not even 10% what it is rated for.
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PIC HIGHLIGHTING GATE PROBLEMS!

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IT'S A REPEAT FROM EARLIER...IT'S WORTH REPEATING!
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Like I said....vibrations.

It is by the Grace of God that thing hasn’t crumbled.

Yah someone added that happens from gates opening....

It also happens with low low low frequencies....and we have confirmation of elf happening in that area.
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PIC HIGHLIGHTING GATE PROBLEMS!

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IT'S A REPEAT FROM EARLIER...IT'S WORTH REPEATING!
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Steel fails from ductile fatigue cycling, so the cracks only grow when they use the gates. As long as they limit the number of open-close cycles they can limit the crack growth. Cracking is expected and starts long before failure happens, indeed "failure" typically happens because a part grows too large to function (because of stretching and/or cracking), not because it actually breaks. The behavior of watching cracks grow is standard procedure and works within a fairly large margin of certainty

HOWEVER

Something like this dam should be held to a much higher standard. Even a 1 % chance of sudden failure is totally unacceptable. A pipeline? No worries. Bridge? Okay, fine. Horrible if it fails, yes. Lives lost, most likely. But just the top third of this dam contains approximately 5 PETAJOULES of potential energy. Suddenly draining 2 million acrefeet from that dam would release as much energy as a 1 megaton nuke.

Extreme scenario? Yes. Unlikely even now? Probably, I don't have access to reliable information. Worth protecting against even the tiniest chance, at any cost? Absolutely.
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"Suddenly draining 2 million acrefeet from that dam would release as much energy as a 1 megaton nuke."
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It's almost like somebody WANTS this dam to collapse (with some bogus modicum of "plausible deniability," of course.)
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It's almost like somebody WANTS this dam to collapse (with some bogus modicum of "plausible deniability," of course.)
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The department last year got approval to bore a hole as deep as 150 feet in the dam's left abutment, adjacent to the green spot area.

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I've read up to page 17 of Bob's proper report just now. Did you know, none of the dam's sensors work? They can't check the structural integrity even if they wanted to, unless I read wrong. It's farking Dire just like he said. The dam itself.

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Is 'Green Spot' a Sign of More Trouble for Oroville Dam?

…..clearly visible on satellite images and measures about 700 feet long by 130 feet wide. That's roughly the size of two football fields.
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he drilling was to pursue a separate issue raised by the safety board -- the seismic vulnerability of Oroville Dam and nearby facilities. As part of that work, DWR told FERC, it planned to install an instrument for "monitoring groundwater levels in proximity (to) the historic 'green spot' within the dam embankment. Data collected may provide beneficial in understanding the origin of seepage within the left abutment."
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'Well, this dam's been here for 50 years. We've seen these wet spots before, and it's performed satisfactorily,' " Bea said. "What they're then concluding is that as you move forward into the future it will continue to perform satisfactorily.
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Famous last words:

Pull it.
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It's almost like somebody WANTS this dam to collapse (with some bogus modicum of "plausible deniability," of course.)
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I AGREE! I'VE MENTIONED NUMEROUS TIMES THAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THEATRICS...WINDOW DRESSING...PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG...ALL TO GIVE A FALSE IMPRESSION...ALL FOR PLAUSABLE DENIABILITY!
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TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!

Oroville Dam update from Butte County Sheriff 5-14-19

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GREAT SITE...THE NUMBERS ARE BOLDED FOR EASY READING!

Lake Oroville Water Level

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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GREAT SITE...THE NUMBERS ARE BOLDED FOR EASY READING!

Lake Oroville Water Level

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE SITE COMES COMPLETE WITH A GRAPH!
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Looks as if there is some light rain beginning at Lake O, seeing a few droplets on the cam lenses.

Looks by the weather reports that a pretty big rain maker is going to hit this week.

We'll see if they decide to open the gates when the level reaches "One and a half hairs away from disaster" open at 2 hairs? nah, we're good!

Retards.
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California DWR reports meeting Nov. 1 deadline for Oroville Dam spillway reconstruction

The newly constructed spillway is now built to its original design capacity of 270,000 cubic feet per second.

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GFS model, 10 day accumulated precipitation

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GFS model, 10 day accumulated precipitation

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THEY'RE GONNA SAY UH, WE DIDN'T KNO' UH DUHR...DUH WAH-TER CAME UP TOO FAST UH, DUHR...NOW, LOTS O DEAD PEOPLE AND WE CANT BE SUED..UH, DUHR..ALL DA EV-UH-DENSE IZ GONE..SHAME..UH, DUHR...! FEDERAL FUNDZ PWEASE..UH, DUHR...!
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GREAT SITE...THE NUMBERS ARE BOLDED FOR EASY READING!

Lake Oroville Water Level

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE SITE COMES COMPLETE WITH A GRAPH!
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..A GRAPH THAT SHOWS PLAIN AS DAY THAT THEY R TRYING TO FUCKING KIL PEOPLE..IT IS EVEDENCE..!
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889.27 @ 6AM...
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GREAT SITE...THE NUMBERS ARE BOLDED FOR EASY READING!

Lake Oroville Water Level

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE SITE COMES COMPLETE WITH A GRAPH!
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..A GRAPH THAT SHOWS PLAIN AS DAY THAT THEY R TRYING TO FUCKING KIL PEOPLE..IT IS EVEDENCE..!
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..FUCKIN CHRIST!...
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I know it's not pure facts but I believe these testimonies are important.

I wish all of Oroville would document this experience. It may help with justice later. I just don't know.

God Bless you Troy Robertson. Sending your name up in prayer for you and yours.

Listen to the first few seconds if nothing else.



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THIS GUY IS SCREWED AND HE KNOWS IT!
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GREAT SITE...THE NUMBERS ARE BOLDED FOR EASY READING!

Lake Oroville Water Level

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE SITE COMES COMPLETE WITH A GRAPH!
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..A GRAPH THAT SHOWS PLAIN AS DAY THAT THEY R TRYING TO FUCKING KIL PEOPLE..IT IS EVEDENCE..!
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GOOD MORNING BROTHER UH! 5a

ARE YOU GOING TO STICK AROUND AND HELP ME TODAY?
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..I CAN PUT SOME TIME IN..BUT, I'LL HAVE TO GO AND STEAL/ACQUIRE SOME MO' CHADD O NNAY LATUH DIS MORNING TO UH,...'COPE' WIF DA LHOOMIN' FUCKIN DIS-ASS-TER!!!...
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Reservoirs Above Oroville Dam ~ An Overview by Millie Kay ~ 5/14/2019

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The link to the flood map for anyone in CA you might want to look, that is if only the Oroville dam goes down, not knocking out other levies along the way,.

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I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE SITE COMES COMPLETE WITH A GRAPH!
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..A GRAPH THAT SHOWS PLAIN AS DAY THAT THEY R TRYING TO FUCKING KIL PEOPLE..IT IS EVEDENCE..!
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GOOD MORNING BROTHER UH! 5a

ARE YOU GOING TO STICK AROUND AND HELP ME TODAY?
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..I CAN PUT SOME TIME IN..BUT, I'LL HAVE TO GO AND STEAL/ACQUIRE SOME MO' CHADD O NNAY LATUH DIS MORNING TO UH,...'COPE' WIF DA LHOOMIN' FUCKIN DIS-ASS-TER!!!...
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GOOD! I CAN USE YOUR HELP!

WHAT KIND OF BUZZ ARE YOU GOING FOR?

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THUNDERBIRD wine

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889.28 @ 7 AM....DHOOM
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And so it begins...

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889.28 @ 7 AM....DHOOM
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