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bitofreason
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08/17/2017 08:20 PM
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It is just that these days great inventions are not from "loose cannons", so to speak. The great minds have been snatched up by the system, and work like slaves for it. We only see what they let us. There has been many breakthroughs, but us plebs get none of the rewards of our tax dollars.
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There will come a day and it is coming soon when there will be no "system" that can contain the free flow of innovation. There are several master inventions that arise in the development of a civilization that enable direct access and implementation with full authentication with no interference from the usual suspects of dominance and control. Think along the lines of the Dark City as protagonist takes over the tuning mechanism of the city. But instead of a city it is planet or solar system wide.
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These new inventions have never depended upon the gross material plane of things and gadgets but on the spirit and soul forces. Our machines and technicians are forever playing catchup to the power of the unleashed mind.
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Education peaked in 1970 in the U.S. and has been on general decline ever since. Blacks then fueled lower levels of learning (no I.Q. tests) and continue to do so. Nicola Tesla had so much to offer but people stealing from him basically cut us out to his future inventions. Obama era education standards guarantee lower levels of student learning for years to come.
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Tesla mainly worked on his own with his own original ideas. Maybe a Tesla brain only occurs once every century or less. Read the historical novel "Tesla" by Tad Wise. Tesla invented many of the products and ideas that others ended up getting credit for.
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This. Tesla was EXTREMELY unique and the more time that passes without another Tesla, the more this becomes obvious.

Or, Ops original point is true and there is no better way to create power.
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You would think that someone would have found it by now if there was. Hundreds of Billions of dollars have been spent on R/D by governments and companies all around the world and yet they cannot improve on Tesla power.
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There may not be anything better to discover??
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Re: No NEW inventions or ideas for decades??
I can name a few since 1990:

- Solid state light amplification, with EDFA (Erbium Doped
Fiber Amplifier). Allowed laser photon regeneration and
allowed current worldwide fiber optic network, using one
EDFA per 100 Km up to 1000 Km.

- Ultra high speed at Internet by using Hardware instead of
software for IP switching at routers. 100's of Terabits/sec

- Fractal antennae, embedded at every mobile phone, wich allow wideband reception and transmission far from the head!

- Home banking, e-commerce, social media (a shame, but still).

- Positron emission tomography (PET), to search full body for diseases.

- Molecular composite materials, allowing different coatings
being used at clothes, construction, aluminum, painting,
airplanes, seats,.....

- Replacement of aluminum by cooper at the junction between
chips and external leads, wich allowed the creation of
Gigaherts CPUs (from P4, thanks to IBM).

- DirecTV and equivalent, with Galaxy V class satellites and
25" antenna. This one has to be credited 100% to Hughes.

- Flat screens: Several technologies.

- Ion-Lithium batteries.

There are a lot of things, not visible by people, under the hood.
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Exactly. Just incremental improvements of older technologies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75072354


I can't understand how come a twisted and retarded mind feels entitled to be hypocritical, posing as someone who has an IQ above average.

The title clearly says "new inventions and ideas", so I wrote exactly about that.

Don't dare to use my own words for another meaning, POS!

Your life must sucks, specially at nights, when your innerself has to deal with what you have miserably to do during the day. Not even useful for trolling 101.
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I invented a resealable beer can.

Because everyone always leaves beer in their open can.

I lost millions on that one.

tissue
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Is that a true story?

Crazy if true.

Guess on the flip-side, if a person loses millions, at least they gained the knowledge of how to make millions along the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


No, it's a joke.
I've lost millions in much more interesting ways.
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08/17/2017 11:48 PM
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Re: No NEW inventions or ideas for decades??
Have humans now learned everything and stopped advancing?

I dont consider self driving cars or new models of CPUs or phones as new inventions as they are just modifications of existing products.

Same A/C power since Tesla invented it. Same wireless since Tesla. Same cars since Ford. Same airplanes. Same CPUs. Same transistors. Same rocket engines. Same robots. etc, etc, etc,

Yes, they all have gotten more perfected over time but nothing is new.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


100% Correct!

However There Is Lots Of Advancement... We are just not seeing it... due to suppression on many levels...

All of that is starting to change... A New World Is Dawning.. :)

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Unfortunately I see no sign of change.
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New Nokia smart phone has a revolutionary new feature that allows user to take super selfie or "bothie" pictures; both front and back cameras can operate at the same time so every pic you take has also your selfie documenting your reactions or feelings. It's also possible to take traditional pics or trad selfies
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You fuckin boofhead.
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Suppression of major technological discoveries by corporate giants..


that is the truth and if you don't believe it then your ignorant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75082560


^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the reason we don't see the tech everybody wants. Like free energy and ant-gravity.
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Suppression of major technological discoveries by corporate giants..


that is the truth and if you don't believe it then your ignorant
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the reason we don't see the tech everybody wants. Like free energy and ant-gravity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75401116


But Tesla fought these same forces and still got his inventions out. Morgan wanted to starve him of funds because he advocated free energy. Westinghouse ripped off all of his Niagara royalties. Edison tried to publicly discredit everything that he did. And on and on. Tesla had very few allies but still released most of his ideas even if he didnt get credit for a lot of it.
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Have humans now learned everything and stopped advancing?

I dont consider self driving cars or new models of CPUs or phones as new inventions as they are just modifications of existing products.

Same A/C power since Tesla invented it. Same wireless since Tesla. Same cars since Ford. Same airplanes. Same CPUs. Same transistors. Same rocket engines. Same robots. etc, etc, etc,

Yes, they all have gotten more perfected over time but nothing is new.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Ha!

Sheeeeit.

The Patent Office is massively backlogged there is so much new stuff being invented.

OP is clearly poorly educated.

You should really get out more.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


"New" or just different modifications of existing products? Is there a "new" power source? "New" propulsion system? "New" anti gravity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Yes. They are producing electricity using only water and salt. Being tested right now in the Netherlands and Germany, amongst others.
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Suppression of major technological discoveries by corporate giants..


that is the truth and if you don't believe it then your ignorant
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the reason we don't see the tech everybody wants. Like free energy and ant-gravity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75401116


But Tesla fought these same forces and still got his inventions out. Morgan wanted to starve him of funds because he advocated free energy. Westinghouse ripped off all of his Niagara royalties. Edison tried to publicly discredit everything that he did. And on and on. Tesla had very few allies but still released most of his ideas even if he didnt get credit for a lot of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Really. Check out Teslas flying saucer and while your at it also John Searls flying saucer. Don Smiths free energy systems (Tesla tech). Philo Farnsworth (inventor of TV) fusor. That's just to name a few.
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All the upgrades for the school were stole by them. Cavitation. Research a "star in a jar" experiment. It solved all of earth's energy needs and our space exploration ones as well. Based on a humble pistol shrimp, AND WAS DEMONSTRATED BY KEELEY. Keelys Secret. That was 1800's prior to Telsa.

Look up the Mercedes Benz grown from a seed. Then comprehend how huge ufo/space stations that often are by the sun but bigger than planets seem to exist.

Imagine, growing crystals, sort gmo, on a vine into a huge vessels and they can continue to grow in space. That mercedez seems to be a gift from somewhere.

There are countless scientists/inventors who bit the dust or were discredited or bought off.

We should have had beamships in our backyards since at least the 40's and even in Africa with unlimited clean energy, and no homeless or slavery anywhere, land for all.

They stole the upgrade! Now they want to depopulate so they can keep power over everything.

We've been kept in a 40's style fossil fuel bubble with a few computer perks thrown our way to keep us distracted. Though in a sense this also caused many to see through them. But they have to do that, at least one of their stupid dark occult cosmic law things is true, though most are not.

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Have humans now learned everything and stopped advancing?

I dont consider self driving cars or new models of CPUs or phones as new inventions as they are just modifications of existing products.

Same A/C power since Tesla invented it. Same wireless since Tesla. Same cars since Ford. Same airplanes. Same CPUs. Same transistors. Same rocket engines. Same robots. etc, etc, etc,

Yes, they all have gotten more perfected over time but nothing is new.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Ha!

Sheeeeit.

The Patent Office is massively backlogged there is so much new stuff being invented.

OP is clearly poorly educated.

You should really get out more.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


"New" or just different modifications of existing products? Is there a "new" power source? "New" propulsion system? "New" anti gravity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Yes. They are producing electricity using only water and salt. Being tested right now in the Netherlands and Germany, amongst others.
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Testing, testing, testing. Same bullshit over and over. Tesla conceived and invented A/C power by himself in less than 3 years.
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One of the big issues is the incredible amount of research and development dollars and investment capital that is squandered on the military. Global spending on war is beyond comprehension. Just look at how much they spent to develop the f35, fighter jet. That is just one weapons system among thousands. If you try to calculate how much a century of warfare has cost us you will be staggered by the sheer incomprehensible scope of the waste.

Tesla had to have dollars to do what he did. Inventors need avenues to obtain capital and need to be protected from infringement at least until they have some control and can self fund new projects. the entire system is structured to ignore, or co-opt and destroy or misuse the inventors intellectual property and there are few that are sufficiently capitalized to defend themselves against the power of modern nation states and the multinational corporate overlords.

If we spent a fraction of what we spent on professional sports or national televised talent shows on funding startups and created incubators for nascent ideas to emerge and develop, we might see golden age proportion development. I haven't seen it yet and I have been waiting for years while watching dollars flow down the military industrial complex drain or into utterly banal and ridiculous so-called hi-tech development.
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I invented a resealable beer can.

Because everyone always leaves beer in their open can.

I lost millions on that one.

tissue
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Is that a true story?

Crazy if true.

Guess on the flip-side, if a person loses millions, at least they gained the knowledge of how to make millions along the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


No, it's a joke.
I've lost millions in much more interesting ways.
chuckle
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OK we have something in common.

I developed a unique insert that went inside a can for competitions. Pop the lid and if you're a winner, a small bouy pops up with 'winner' written on it.

The only way the bouy could come out was to destroy the can.

It was initially developed for Coca Cola here in OZ, but they liked it so much, they showed it to the US division.

Coke owned a few liquor companies here, and the first few trials were really successful, and I did OK.

Coke was really interested to use it as an exclusive mechanism for the brand, sub brands and aligned interests.

We agreed on a hand over figure, to be paid in 4 lump sums.

Then the USFDA had a look at it, and reasoned that someone could indeed pull the can apart, destroy the mechanism, put it in their mouth, and choke.

That is pretty much the exact wording.

It was deemed a choking hazard.

So over night all deals were off. I still have the patent, but regardless of the successful trials here, everyone still comes back to the USFDA failed report.

Urgghhh...
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One of the big issues is the incredible amount of research and development dollars and investment capital that is squandered on the military. Global spending on war is beyond comprehension. Just look at how much they spent to develop the f35, fighter jet. That is just one weapons system among thousands. If you try to calculate how much a century of warfare has cost us you will be staggered by the sheer incomprehensible scope of the waste.

Tesla had to have dollars to do what he did. Inventors need avenues to obtain capital and need to be protected from infringement at least until they have some control and can self fund new projects. the entire system is structured to ignore, or co-opt and destroy or misuse the inventors intellectual property and there are few that are sufficiently capitalized to defend themselves against the power of modern nation states and the multinational corporate overlords.

If we spent a fraction of what we spent on professional sports or national televised talent shows on funding startups and created incubators for nascent ideas to emerge and develop, we might see golden age proportion development. I haven't seen it yet and I have been waiting for years while watching dollars flow down the military industrial complex drain or into utterly banal and ridiculous so-called hi-tech development.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73374315


Tesla wasted 75% of his time trying to find investment dollars and trying to get his deserved royalties. Many of his most famous inventions were completed with very little money. He started as a ditch digger in NYC and had to battle the rich, world famous Edison from day one.

Again, "Tesla" by Tad Wise. You will not believe how much Tesla actually knew, invented or improved upon even before 1900.
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One of the big issues is the incredible amount of research and development dollars and investment capital that is squandered on the military. Global spending on war is beyond comprehension. Just look at how much they spent to develop the f35, fighter jet. That is just one weapons system among thousands. If you try to calculate how much a century of warfare has cost us you will be staggered by the sheer incomprehensible scope of the waste.

Tesla had to have dollars to do what he did. Inventors need avenues to obtain capital and need to be protected from infringement at least until they have some control and can self fund new projects. the entire system is structured to ignore, or co-opt and destroy or misuse the inventors intellectual property and there are few that are sufficiently capitalized to defend themselves against the power of modern nation states and the multinational corporate overlords.

If we spent a fraction of what we spent on professional sports or national televised talent shows on funding startups and created incubators for nascent ideas to emerge and develop, we might see golden age proportion development. I haven't seen it yet and I have been waiting for years while watching dollars flow down the military industrial complex drain or into utterly banal and ridiculous so-called hi-tech development.
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Tesla wasted 75% of his time trying to find investment dollars and trying to get his deserved royalties. Many of his most famous inventions were completed with very little money. He started as a ditch digger in NYC and had to battle the rich, world famous Edison from day one.

Again, "Tesla" by Tad Wise. You will not believe how much Tesla actually knew, invented or improved upon even before 1900.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Tesla was not concerned about the profits and industrialization of his inventions unlike all of the others you mention. This attitude allowed him to focus solely on his inventions but it also hampered him actually achieving all that he could have if he had his own money.
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I invented a resealable beer can.

Because everyone always leaves beer in their open can.

I lost millions on that one.

tissue
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Is that a true story?

Crazy if true.

Guess on the flip-side, if a person loses millions, at least they gained the knowledge of how to make millions along the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


No, it's a joke.
I've lost millions in much more interesting ways.
chuckle
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OK we have something in common.

I developed a unique insert that went inside a can for competitions. Pop the lid and if you're a winner, a small bouy pops up with 'winner' written on it.

The only way the bouy could come out was to destroy the can.

It was initially developed for Coca Cola here in OZ, but they liked it so much, they showed it to the US division.

Coke owned a few liquor companies here, and the first few trials were really successful, and I did OK.

Coke was really interested to use it as an exclusive mechanism for the brand, sub brands and aligned interests.

We agreed on a hand over figure, to be paid in 4 lump sums.

Then the USFDA had a look at it, and reasoned that someone could indeed pull the can apart, destroy the mechanism, put it in their mouth, and choke.

That is pretty much the exact wording.

It was deemed a choking hazard.

So over night all deals were off. I still have the patent, but regardless of the successful trials here, everyone still comes back to the USFDA failed report.

Urgghhh...
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Well fuck.
Government destroys yet another life through sheer evil stuidity.
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Re: No NEW inventions or ideas for decades??
That's an interesting question OP. I have wondered recently that we couldn't put a man on the moon right now if our lives depended on it. The Apollo Program in the 60's did it with slide rules and handwritten calculations FFS! And the planned Mission to Mars keeps getting pushed further and further back. Hell, we can't even put a Space Shuttle up with it blowing to pieces.

I really think the advancement of civilization has reached it's peak and we're heading back towards a new Dark Ages. Maybe that has to happen to stimulate new ideas.
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One of the big issues is the incredible amount of research and development dollars and investment capital that is squandered on the military. Global spending on war is beyond comprehension. Just look at how much they spent to develop the f35, fighter jet. That is just one weapons system among thousands. If you try to calculate how much a century of warfare has cost us you will be staggered by the sheer incomprehensible scope of the waste.

Tesla had to have dollars to do what he did. Inventors need avenues to obtain capital and need to be protected from infringement at least until they have some control and can self fund new projects. the entire system is structured to ignore, or co-opt and destroy or misuse the inventors intellectual property and there are few that are sufficiently capitalized to defend themselves against the power of modern nation states and the multinational corporate overlords.

If we spent a fraction of what we spent on professional sports or national televised talent shows on funding startups and created incubators for nascent ideas to emerge and develop, we might see golden age proportion development. I haven't seen it yet and I have been waiting for years while watching dollars flow down the military industrial complex drain or into utterly banal and ridiculous so-called hi-tech development.
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Tesla wasted 75% of his time trying to find investment dollars and trying to get his deserved royalties. Many of his most famous inventions were completed with very little money. He started as a ditch digger in NYC and had to battle the rich, world famous Edison from day one.

Again, "Tesla" by Tad Wise. You will not believe how much Tesla actually knew, invented or improved upon even before 1900.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Tesla was not concerned about the profits and industrialization of his inventions unlike all of the others you mention. This attitude allowed him to focus solely on his inventions but it also hampered him actually achieving all that he could have if he had his own money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74275855


Tesla didn't care about money. He gave aways royalties worthing today as much as 100 mn$ t Westinghouse, in order to prevent him from bankrupticy.

Westinghouse paid for his hotel and living expenses until his death. This is well documented. Westinghouse wasn't a greedy man, just a business man.
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It is just that these days great inventions are not from "loose cannons", so to speak. The great minds have been snatched up by the system, and work like slaves for it. We only see what they let us. There has been many breakthroughs, but us plebs get none of the rewards of our tax dollars.
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One of the big issues is the incredible amount of research and development dollars and investment capital that is squandered on the military. Global spending on war is beyond comprehension. Just look at how much they spent to develop the f35, fighter jet. That is just one weapons system among thousands. If you try to calculate how much a century of warfare has cost us you will be staggered by the sheer incomprehensible scope of the waste.

Tesla had to have dollars to do what he did. Inventors need avenues to obtain capital and need to be protected from infringement at least until they have some control and can self fund new projects. the entire system is structured to ignore, or co-opt and destroy or misuse the inventors intellectual property and there are few that are sufficiently capitalized to defend themselves against the power of modern nation states and the multinational corporate overlords.

If we spent a fraction of what we spent on professional sports or national televised talent shows on funding startups and created incubators for nascent ideas to emerge and develop, we might see golden age proportion development. I haven't seen it yet and I have been waiting for years while watching dollars flow down the military industrial complex drain or into utterly banal and ridiculous so-called hi-tech development.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73374315


Tesla wasted 75% of his time trying to find investment dollars and trying to get his deserved royalties. Many of his most famous inventions were completed with very little money. He started as a ditch digger in NYC and had to battle the rich, world famous Edison from day one.

Again, "Tesla" by Tad Wise. You will not believe how much Tesla actually knew, invented or improved upon even before 1900.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75373018


Tesla was not concerned about the profits and industrialization of his inventions unlike all of the others you mention. This attitude allowed him to focus solely on his inventions but it also hampered him actually achieving all that he could have if he had his own money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74275855


Tesla didn't care about money. He gave aways royalties worthing today as much as 100 mn$ t Westinghouse, in order to prevent him from bankrupticy.

Westinghouse paid for his hotel and living expenses until his death. This is well documented. Westinghouse wasn't a greedy man, just a business man.
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So Tesla gives up the royalties for Niagara and A/C power and Westinghouse "generously" pays for a hotel room?? But he "wasnt greedy?" LOL.
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Re: No NEW inventions or ideas for decades??
There's plenty of good, new ideas, OP. But commercialising them has been skewed so that the multinationals are the only avenue to sell to market.

Just patenting something is so fucking hard nowadays, and making it a world wide patent is expensive too.

I currently have (3) patents and numerous design registrations, and have done OK, but not enough for me to stop working or anything like that.

I have some really cool ideas and protos that I'd love to get to market, but my only realistic options are to mount a smash and grab approach, and have everything ready, including a marketing plan, and distribution ready to roll in one big het and make my money there, whilst all the me too's then copy it and do their thing. I might get lucky and be able to sell it, lock stock to someone else.

But there are some subtleties to what you're asking.

Some ideas are purely to make money off, and you cant begrudge anyone for wanting to do that.

Some ideas are ground breaking, and in the best interests of mankind, but even if you release a working prototype, and state categorically that you are giving this idea to the world for free, it will likely be buried, as it may impinge upon vested interests, and their returns on current investments. Cheaper to bury, than to compete. Ask Preston Tucker. (or at least watch the movie! LOL)

It's a powerful 'machine' to go up against. And many of us learn the hard way, by being blinded by the idea, and excited at seeing an idea come to life, then realising just how much work and MONEY will be required to protect it, and bring it to fruition.

I worked with Marty and Marc on the first Tesla roadsters, and trust me, the excitement diminished really quickly once everyone realised what 'investment' actually spelled out for everyone concerned. Marty and Marc who? Exactly.

My focus is on leaving Sydney, which is just an expensive shit hole nowadays. But when I have, and can set up a decent workshop, I have some really cool ideas I'd like to either commercialise, or low volume push into the market quietly.
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OP are you stupid?
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That's an interesting question OP. I have wondered recently that we couldn't put a man on the moon right now if our lives depended on it. The Apollo Program in the 60's did it with slide rules and handwritten calculations FFS! And the planned Mission to Mars keeps getting pushed further and further back. Hell, we can't even put a Space Shuttle up with it blowing to pieces.

I really think the advancement of civilization has reached it's peak and we're heading back towards a new Dark Ages. Maybe that has to happen to stimulate new ideas.
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i generally agree- the 1960's was the apex of civilization and technology

since then we have become lazy and readily amused with trinkets and gadgets like the endless smartphone apps that allow you to do something that you never had a need for, but now you do it just because you can
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I then saw as the Nephilim aligned themselves with certain people, and merged themselves with these people. I saw as they revealed themselves to these people as angels of light, as spiritual guides. I then heard as these people began to proclaim and speak of new theories and discoveries with which to explain the mysteries of the past, as well as forthcoming discoveries of the future. And their words were greeted and welcomed and believed upon by many.
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That's an interesting question OP. I have wondered recently that we couldn't put a man on the moon right now if our lives depended on it. The Apollo Program in the 60's did it with slide rules and handwritten calculations FFS! And the planned Mission to Mars keeps getting pushed further and further back. Hell, we can't even put a Space Shuttle up with it blowing to pieces.

I really think the advancement of civilization has reached it's peak and we're heading back towards a new Dark Ages. Maybe that has to happen to stimulate new ideas.
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i generally agree- the 1960's was the apex of civilization and technology

since then we have become lazy and readily amused with trinkets and gadgets like the endless smartphone apps that allow you to do something that you never had a need for, but now you do it just because you can
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I think it was an apex of intent. The 60's were definitely a period where if we put our minds to it, we achieved it. And I bunch everyone together in that, US, Ruskies, Commonwealth nations etc. But nations no longer have the will, or the money to fund how high they can piss up a wall to make the other nation look small.

There's an often mentioned quote from Don Petit, who says "we dont have the technology to go back to the moon". Its often misconstrewed.

Petit is talking 'engineer'.

NASA and its subcontractors have moved on, in all respects, and sending something or someone to the moon isnt possible. The dedicated science, engineering and production for it no longer exists. It's geared to what they are funded for and trying to achieve now.

That the Mars programs are being pushed further and further back is not a conspiracy, it's just funding and political will to commit to the propgrams. It isnt there.

If you rang Ford and asked them for a new 1960 car, they just arent in a position to make one, they've moved on and have committed to new technology and new ways of making things. Same would apply to asking GE for a new 50 y/o refrigerator. It would not be possible, without a huge amount of money and political will.

But I'm digressing from the OP's original question.

The new ideas are there. Just not able to be so readily placed into the market, as anything that effects the status quo (read control and money making ability) will not be easily accepted.

Tesla Motors is becoming successful because of a shit tonne of money invested outside the normal channels. But, the board is diversifying like crazy to protect themselves from the Fed Govt' injection of moneys to that specific venture.
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sheep are not capable of inventions or ideas, so just have fun while you still can.
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OP are you stupid?
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No. The human realm though amazing, is limited.





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