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Cannabis as addictive as Heroin

 
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Any government funded study will achieve the results that the government wants.
GEMMA MOSS DID NOT DIE FROM CANNABIS POISONING. THE PATHOLOGIST DID NOT SAY SHE DID. LOOK AT THE FACTS.
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Marijuana use can be problematic but only rarely leads to addiction

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The actual study that was done, which is talked about in the article that Fred, the OP, listed, doesn't present the same conclusion that the article does.

No, marijuana is not actually “as addictive as heroin”

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GEMMA MOSS DID NOT DIE FROM CANNABIS POISONING. THE PATHOLOGIST DID NOT SAY SHE DID. LOOK AT THE FACTS.
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Quit answering this idiot he is a spamming troll

working for big pharma, report every thread to the mods

as spam


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I'm an addict big time. I will be doing a wake and bake this morning with GG4. Injecting it into my veins with a Roor lil sista 7mm.

This keeps me out of the pain clinics...
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New studies show that people who base their entire life off of articles they read off the internet have significantly lower IQ than those who don't.
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Cannabis withdrawal. LMFAO.
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jay

New drug to treat cannabis addiction successfully reduces withdrawal symptoms

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 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


You believe any trash article that is written that has any negative towards cannabis.

How does it feel to be so ignorant?
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Quit answering this idiot he is a spamming troll

working for big pharma, report every thread to the mods

as spam

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I don't primarily reply for his benefit. Although he does read it and gets really pissed. I see a lie, or a misrepresentation of data, and I respond.

I will say, though, his thread yesterday was tons of fun.
GEMMA MOSS DID NOT DIE FROM CANNABIS POISONING. THE PATHOLOGIST DID NOT SAY SHE DID. LOOK AT THE FACTS.
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Cannabis as Addictive as Heroin

Cannabis can be highly addictive, cause mental health problems and lead to hard drug use, according to a new study by a British addiction specialist.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert's devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless

A definitive 20-year study into the effects of long-term cannabis use has demolished the argument that the drug is safe.

Cannabis is highly addictive, causes mental health problems and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found.

Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.

'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.

'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'

Those who try to stop taking cannabis often suffer anxiety, insomnia, appetite disturbance and depression, he found. Even after treatment, less than half can stay off the drug for six months.


Professor Hall found:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby's birth weight


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jay
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Fucking Alcohol is worse. Fucking stuff kills more people since the beginning of time combined when abused!
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Son OP is either a paid poster for Big Pharma or is suffering from a mania. Or something else altogether.

Either way it makes the material you offer less compelling than if you just discussed it in some kind of context.

Which leads to the obvious question-

Cui Bono?

Only those in agreement with you are going to respond positively to what you're posting and those who you would really be trying to help are unlikely to get on board with your stuck up 14 year old girl with a hair up her ass routine. No one likes a scold, especially one devoid of any humor or self-awareness. And that's you.

So who would benefit from your repetitive tirades?

Commercial cannabis industry.

So that's my educated guess at motive. If you're just obsessed with it, you're definitely at the 'get professional help' stage of your journey.
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That is an outright, bold-faced lie.

Legal drugs, now, on the other hand...

But this OP is not really interested in truth.

He is out after something else.
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Article paid for br large pharmaceutical companies no doubt.
" Sonny Liston is nothing. The man can't talk. The man can't fight. The man needs to take talking lessons. The man needs to take fighting lessons. And since he's fighting me, he needs falling lessons."

Muhammad Ali...
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People STOP replying to this heroin junkie/pharma shills threads . Let him dissappear into the eather .
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That is an outright, bold-faced lie.

Legal drugs, now, on the other hand...

But this OP is not really interested in truth.

He is out after something else.
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner


I listed the three probabilities and then I ranked them by efficacy/likelihood.

Suffering from a mania, less than 50:50 due to quality of the posts in terms of working links, relevance, grammar, construction of thesis, etc. Pro-Big Pharma looks the most likely as they have the most to fear from the cannabis industry, but if it is them the old 'you catch more flies with honey' theory isn't being used very effectively, in fact even if I were neutral about the subject these kind of posts would more than likely drive me over to the 'if this guy hates it so much it must be okay' side of the argument and that's not what a paying customer would want, results-wise.

Now as far as antipathy goes OP has clearly developed an anti-cult vibe turning more people on to grass as to away from it. So who benefits in that situation?

Just sayin'
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Hahaha yea, no not really

So far weed never gave me powerful flu like symptoms and insomnia durimg withdrawal

You really went there huh ?
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Yeah, don't shoot the messenger.
Cannabis destroys the heart and vascular system, dangerously lowers blood pressure and causes psychosis and paranoia

Gemma Moss, 31, becomes first woman in Britain to DIE from cannabis poisoning

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Studies show that opinionated zealot mother fuckers usually get beat up. It's true!

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Hahaha yea, no not really

So far weed never gave me powerful flu like symptoms and insomnia durimg withdrawal

You really went there huh ?
 Quoting: Centurionx


Yeah, don't shoot the messenger.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Your message was incorrect.

You quoted an article that intentionally misrepresented the findings of the study.
GEMMA MOSS DID NOT DIE FROM CANNABIS POISONING. THE PATHOLOGIST DID NOT SAY SHE DID. LOOK AT THE FACTS.
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The irony is that Heroine isn't all that addictive compared to several other substances.

Benzodiazapines are the hardest drug on Earth to get off of. Withdrawal can last quite a long time, heavy users also can die from cold turkey. It's a complete mind fark.
 Quoting: Halberd


I take diazapam, not much 2mg when needed for spasms and not everyday sometimes not for weeks. Never felt any addiction or withdrawal.
Cannabis destroys the heart and vascular system, dangerously lowers blood pressure and causes psychosis and paranoia

Gemma Moss, 31, becomes first woman in Britain to DIE from cannabis poisoning

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CKP was ass raped by a marijuana dealer
I'm pretty sure I ended up in a parallel universe, as nothing else makes much sense.

INFP, RH neg, regular oddball.
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The irony is that Heroine isn't all that addictive compared to several other substances.

Benzodiazapines are the hardest drug on Earth to get off of. Withdrawal can last quite a long time, heavy users also can die from cold turkey. It's a complete mind fark.
 Quoting: Halberd


I take diazapam, not much 2mg when needed for spasms and not everyday sometimes not for weeks. Never felt any addiction or withdrawal.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Kind of odd that you would consider anecdotal evidence to support your particular drug of choice and reject scientific research which would counter you claim.

And if you are still using a diazapram protocol to treat epilepsy you're about eight to ten years behind the research. There are far more efficacious programs available for your symptoms, maybe research that a little bit.
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The irony is that Heroine isn't all that addictive compared to several other substances.

Benzodiazapines are the hardest drug on Earth to get off of. Withdrawal can last quite a long time, heavy users also can die from cold turkey. It's a complete mind fark.
 Quoting: Halberd


I take diazapam, not much 2mg when needed for spasms and not everyday sometimes not for weeks. Never felt any addiction or withdrawal.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Kind of odd that you would consider anecdotal evidence to support your particular drug of choice and reject scientific research which would counter you claim.

And if you are still using a diazapram protocol to treat epilepsy you're about eight to ten years behind the research. There are far more efficacious programs available for your symptoms, maybe research that a little bit.
 Quoting: hardscrabble farmer


I don't have epilepsy.
Cannabis destroys the heart and vascular system, dangerously lowers blood pressure and causes psychosis and paranoia

Gemma Moss, 31, becomes first woman in Britain to DIE from cannabis poisoning

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Cannabis withdrawal. LMFAO.
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jay

New drug to treat cannabis addiction successfully reduces withdrawal symptoms

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 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People



You did realize, right, that you'll have to change your signature lines to remove the reference to Gemma Moss?

According to Professor Wayne Hall - yes, the same guy who did the research that's misrepresented in the article you posted at the top of this thread, in that same study, finds this:
You can't overdose on marijuana.

Read the study, not the articles in the media.

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another do
Neither here nor there
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I think that's the only downside to cannabis - your dream state where your subconscious mind processes information - a bit here and there fine - but it will stunt your growth. You'll notice it with a real man next to a pot-head. Mentally leagues apart.
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The irony is that Heroine isn't all that addictive compared to several other substances.

Benzodiazapines are the hardest drug on Earth to get off of. Withdrawal can last quite a long time, heavy users also can die from cold turkey. It's a complete mind fark.
 Quoting: Halberd


I take diazapam, not much 2mg when needed for spasms and not everyday sometimes not for weeks. Never felt any addiction or withdrawal.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Two reasons for that. You're taking it for a physical symptom, not a mental one. And you do not take it that often.

If you were to take it every day, and it was your 'crutch' for social interactions (which it is for most people) then the addiction fully kicks in. The reason the withdrawl is horrible is that your mind floods you with even more anxiety/all sorts of bad thoughts and feelings in an effort to get you to take a benzo again. Withdrawl intensity/length depends on how long you've taken them, [link to americanaddictioncenters.org (secure)]

I was on the damn things for 4 years or so, it was a low dose, but the withdrawl was a serious pain in the ass. The good news is anyone can beat it.

A friend of mine was in a fancy rehab facility for coke... there were heroine, alcoholics, and benzo addicts there. He said the opiate people were fine, but the benzo people consistently had outburts, could barely look anyone in the eye etc. It's one hell of a drug and way too over prescribed.
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Cannabis as Addictive as Heroin

Cannabis can be highly addictive, cause mental health problems and lead to hard drug use, according to a new study by a British addiction specialist.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert's devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless

A definitive 20-year study into the effects of long-term cannabis use has demolished the argument that the drug is safe.

Cannabis is highly addictive, causes mental health problems and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found.

Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.

'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.

'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'

Those who try to stop taking cannabis often suffer anxiety, insomnia, appetite disturbance and depression, he found. Even after treatment, less than half can stay off the drug for six months.


Professor Hall found:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby's birth weight


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jay
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Your A Pill Popping Fool...
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Cannabis as Addictive as Heroin

Cannabis can be highly addictive, cause mental health problems and lead to hard drug use, according to a new study by a British addiction specialist.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert's devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless

A definitive 20-year study into the effects of long-term cannabis use has demolished the argument that the drug is safe.

Cannabis is highly addictive, causes mental health problems and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found.

Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.

'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.

'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'

Those who try to stop taking cannabis often suffer anxiety, insomnia, appetite disturbance and depression, he found. Even after treatment, less than half can stay off the drug for six months.


Professor Hall found:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby's birth weight


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jay
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Your A Pill Popping Fool...
 Quoting: CELT1


I am a chronic pain patient. I have to take meds.
Cannabis destroys the heart and vascular system, dangerously lowers blood pressure and causes psychosis and paranoia

Gemma Moss, 31, becomes first woman in Britain to DIE from cannabis poisoning

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Cannabis as Addictive as Heroin

Cannabis can be highly addictive, cause mental health problems and lead to hard drug use, according to a new study by a British addiction specialist.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert's devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless

A definitive 20-year study into the effects of long-term cannabis use has demolished the argument that the drug is safe.

Cannabis is highly addictive, causes mental health problems and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found.

Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.

'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.

'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'

Those who try to stop taking cannabis often suffer anxiety, insomnia, appetite disturbance and depression, he found. Even after treatment, less than half can stay off the drug for six months.


Professor Hall found:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby's birth weight


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jay
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Your A Pill Popping Fool...
 Quoting: CELT1


I am a chronic pain patient. I have to take meds.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


How is that nasty erectile dysfunction working out for you?
I'm pretty sure I ended up in a parallel universe, as nothing else makes much sense.

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never dis weed on glp. it's a vegetable here