Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

I put a pair of my last prescription in the truck...just in case.

Smart!

I've tried to get thru to non-preppers by telling them it is the same idea as saving for retirement.

If you don't put anything away for your old age...you are going to wake up to one helluva emergency one day & find out it's too late.

It didn't work...and I no longer try to reach non-preppers.

What were some of the ways you tried to reach them?

A tip here and tip there. A little creativity goes a long way.

Should have some food that requires no or very little cooking.




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Last Edited by Pony Up on 03/22/2019 12:10 AM

It's been some time since I realized discussing these things would put a target on my front door and all discussion ceased.

I think my "persuasion" was in the vein of "What if . .?" What if you lost your job? What if trucks stopped moving goods?

I learned in the latish seventies about the amount of food in stores only being three days' worth, and about certain executive orders that would affect us very badly, and I did try to tell people about those, only to be disbelieved, of course.

Now I just hope people see the news and are able to think about what they see and read, knowing most won't and a few will.

If I knew of a "good prospect" today, I would recommend they visit this forum, and leave the gaining of knowledge to them. That would prevent me from sharing my own personal views and activities, unless directly asked.

I'm not very trusting any more, anywhere. Seen and heard too many lies, even on here. More and more I am called a "shill" in red, which is so odd, since I wouldn't know how to "shill" anything. Just cannot trust people even to understand what you've said! Of course each person has their own agenda, and that is a further problem. I've been pretty open here, probably far more than is best, and I am exactly who I appear to be, IRL and here - no difference.

No, I don't think this is the time to try to explain to people what they need to do and why. If they don't already "get it", they probably are not capable. If they do, they may be trying to find out where to help themselves to more.

Great video - loved the suggestions! I hadn't thought much about seafood packets but they are waaay up on the list now! Because water might be at a premium, foods not requiring water in preparation may be highly desirable, especially before we've gotten our water hauling and purifying down to a simplified routine.

Thank you, Pony Up!! Good one!! If you have more, we are all eyes!

edited to add: If we have told anybody they should be preparing, explained it, even talked about what we have done, those are the first people we need to watch out for!! They will likely be coming to "visit", knowing where they can find food and other needs. "We just didn't have the money" "We were going to next month" "We did, but then we had to use it all - our basement flooded - somebody stole it"

Watch out!

The plant is Berberine

The natural insulin plant is Berberine.

Thank you very much for this, AC - a number of people who've visited this thread have diabetes, or someone in their family does, and it's a life-changing concern, definitely.

Very kind of you to post this! Do you by chance have a link already to the preparation and use of it?

Thank you again

Should have some food that requires no or very little cooking.

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Agreed!

I don't have alot of food like that, but I think it's important to have some.

Peanutbutter & crackers, fritos & refried beans. Granola bars.

Just giving you some time to formulate a cooking plan.

FYI...there are a few threads out there inciting panic in the financial markets.

IMHO I see nothing to panic over.

Gold is up a tick...nothing significant.

DOW was down 460 points...down, but nothing to bring in the tomato plants over.

Inverted bond yield curve...a tiny bit concerning, but I've seen it many times before.

I was just checking the front page and agree with you mostly, though I think some of the comments in this thread might be interesting to some here.
Thread: 10 year BONDS ARE COLLAPSING!

This is one of the interesting posts in that thread, along with other explanations of the coming panic:
This is the real reason behind the renewed interest in gun control. High profile public servants are nervous about the outcome of worldwide economic collapse. And how the public is going to react.

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Exactly! As well as for times when it seems best to stay silent in the dark, but food is critically needed. This is what I was saying yesterday about having plenty of water on hand in order to use it while setting up a system for collection and purification of more water.

Life will be extremely stressful so whatever we can plan ahead to relieve some of that stress will be unbelievably helpful. We will be very thankful we have done so.

I was thinking last night about those who have no specific location, plot of land, cabin, or any other places to go if they have to bug out.

Should you need to leave, bug out, in the winter, if you have no particular place to land, it may be a drastic situation if you live in the northern tier of the country. Wasn't there something Jesus said about hope it doesn't come in winter?

In Eastern Washington there is an old pioneer cemetery that my brother took me to see once. It is near the Washington Idaho line. Here's the story. A group of settlers from the east got started late in the year, and stopped at the Whitman Mission near Walla Walla. This would have been late 1800s. The Whitmans tried to convince them to stay there until spring because it was into the fall already. October, I think my brother said. They stubbornly went on anyway, and when they got to the area they were heading for, they worked so hard to get things ready for the winter.

They were not very successful, needing to build homes and barns and fence, as well as cut firewood and the like. Winter came, and it must have been a lot harder than they expected. Sickness set in too, and the little old cemetery told the rest of the story. They lost so many people, sadly, many were children. Families were devastated. There is nothing sadder than a little child's grave.

It was a very sobering experience.

Some years later, my great grandfather settled a place near here, and it was harsh even then. My great grandmother was so overwhelmed by the rough life that she lost so much weight that her wedding ring would not stay on, my mother's aunt told me.

Please take the time now to find your place and get started setting up ASAP. You can get cheap land still, and now is the time to start looking. There is still time to get some kind of winter proof shelter up and some basic work done so that you will have at least a base camp, a place to be safe and secure in the winter. Don't set off into the great unknown looking for a place to land. Please.

Interesting, very interesting.

There is another comment from that thread that I think everyone here should see. Many of us see serious events coming, the kind that mean we should have all preps done. Maybe this is it? We have to maintain constant watchfulness, and share with each other here what we find, what we think and feel, and what intuition/sixth sense/Holy Spirit is saying to us as individuals. We have some excellent minds in this thread - please use this venue to share - between us we may well be able to understand exactly what is coming and what to do.
This is the comment:

America sits on the precipice of a financial ruin, that is only waiting to happen.

2008 was a joke compared to what is coming.

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Lily, you are so right - very wise and insightful advice. However, not all of us are in position to purchase something. In the past I have said that to you and your response was to the effect that everybody can, one way or another.

Some of us CANNOT - truly cannot. What do you suggest for us?

Well, if you are planning to bug out, are you just going to sleep in your car for the rest of your life? What sort of shelter do you have planned for yourself at present? If you are planning on a trailer, try to find a town that is not on a major highway or near one or near a larger town. Most little towns have a trailer court or RV park. See if you can get into a setup like that. Most have a small storage shed too.

Go to the closest feed and tack store, farm supply and tell the the guy behind the counter (not at a busy time please) your predicament, see if he knows anybody who might have land or a place for you to park.

My belief is that if you determine that you CANNOT buy land, period, then the Universe will say "OK' and that will be that. But if you allow that there might be a way for you to own some land someday, then there is a possibility that something might come up. Just don't tell God what to do based on your understanding of things. The truth of the matter is that you do not see a way you can buy land, but there might be one you can't see. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

I also believe that for kind hearted people of faith, that in the coming storm there will be many little miracles, maybe some big miracles, that will be operational to keep the good people from terrible harm. But not necessarily from discomfort.

Very interesting post with lots of possibilities.

The portion which resonates with my belief system is that God can do anything, including providing land, if He knows that will be the best thing. He also knows my heart's desire, and will grant that only if it is the best thing for me. Because of my health, it's unlikely, but things can change. I leave it to Him.

I would not want to live in an RV park or anywhere with other people - that is the purpose of "bugging out" - to find safety in solitude. People in RV parks will become as hungry as people in brick mansions, and as unmanageable, if they learn someone has something they need.

Meanwhile, my plan is that if sheltering in place becomes untenable, I know of areas hidden in forests, far, far from any city or even any small town. I know what to take with us, and have some idea of how we will manage. As to living in a vehicle forever - no. Ideally, matters will settle and I could return to my small town and even the place where I live. If not - I don't know, but way will be made known to me as time passes and circumstances change. I trust God in all matters concerning my life, and He will lead the way. In fact, I had intended to go a completely different geographical direction if leaving home seemed required, to an area where I know I could find water and trees. Instead, the Holy Spirit suggested an almost opposite direction, to a different location, and instantly I grasped how much wiser that would be - shorter travel time, deeper into unoccupied land, the possibility of arriving there with a nearly full gas tank, etc. Much less likely to encounter others, especially the hungry, gang-type others.

So - whatever God wills, will be. Building a shelter - I'm not physically capable of doing very much, but perhaps I will become able! Who knows.

For now, we need to really focus on awareness of everything happening in this world and especially in this country, in order to decipher what is our next, best, move.

Thank you, Lily, for your response!

Well, if you are planning to bug out, are you just going to sleep in your car for the rest of your life?

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My plan would be to not bugout & stay in my home.

But if that were not possible...how could I know that my "cabin" would be in a safe place?

We don't know what form DOOM will come in.

You might need to be upstream from a nuke plant or all the water will be contaminated. (even though the nuke plant was 500 miles away).

I'm not bashing a bugout location...but there are so many variables...I just don't know where I would buy the piece of land to do it.

Some gold might allow you to buy a place after TSHTF. Atleast then you'll probably know where the safe areas are.

HEY, now there's an idea...an old abandoned gold mine! I can't imagine a safer place than a hole dug into rock & supported with beams!

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We have some excellent minds in this thread - please use this venue to share - between us we may well be able to understand exactly what is coming and what to do.
This is the comment:

America sits on the precipice of a financial ruin, that is only waiting to happen.

2008 was a joke compared to what is coming.

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IMO bonds are doing what they're doing because the FED chairman just did a complete total flip-flop from raising interest rates and saying to keep raising them...to haulting & saying no more increases for the rest of the year (maybe longer).

It was such an abrupt change it spooked the bond market a little...things will mellow out.

Of course I can't predict the future...doom could hit tomorrow for all I know.

But what's happening in the bond market right now seems of little significance...for the immediate term anyway.

Here's a link for a cheap diy rocket stove. I apologize if it's been posted but i just ran across this thread and wanted to save it to read. Been a dimestore prepper for some time and maybe I'll be able to contribute but there's alot here to read and don't wanna repeat what's already been posted.

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Thanks Cyrus!

And I wouldn't worry too much about repeating...with over 100 pages it's bound to happen to all of us.

Welcome here, Cyrus Ramsey! Glad you have joined us and that you actually want to read the whole thread - that's marvelous and it will blow your mind to read the range of things! From very wise advice to great lists to humor to compassion and everything in-between and before and after. I don't become all wiggy about being off-topic for short periods, and we definitely are forming friendships. Come on in! The water's fine!

Thank You for the link on the rocket stove - those are the most amazing little things! I was pondering today - if I have to go out in the woods by myself, my butane won't last forever and I was musing if, over time, I could find enough stones of the right size and shape to build a little rocket stove - entirely possible. I'll be too far away from "things" to find a pile of bricks or cement blocks, probably. Have to be very careful, though, because I likely will be not far from a river, and river rock is not safe to heat. Might have to pick up a few bricks again!

Anyway, thank you and welcome! Hope you post often and long!

We each here are teachers. We each are also learners! Once in a while somebody stops by with one post, to give us the benefit of their great wisdom, having which we need nothing more. Fortunately they are one-posters and we don't see them again.

Good to have your perspective, Mr. Mental Case! I don't follow any of it, so I have no opinion. I just read and watch.

Only caveat is making sure the previous tenant is no longer in residence. Also give consideration to his returning, or his brother or sister. Their former occupancy will be noted by hair scraps, and possibly a few bones.

I wanted to address this specifically, Miss Lily, because they are lovely words you wrote.

I was reading Revelation 14 today. I find hope in so many places in the Bible regarding the End Times. God doesn't just toss us out there and leave us to ourselves. He still will be very active in our lives. Remember David, in Psalms, terrified and hiding in caves in the desert? He was not deserted - nor will we be. He will see us through to the end.

That seems to be the going eBay price for them, too. But you can find them cheaper with some persistence. When I was looking, I drove around and when I saw someone who had several, I'd ask where I got them. Ended up getting 2 from someone who worked at a water purification center. They had never been used and he sold them to us for $40 each. Point of the story is just watch and ask. You meet some jerks, but lots of people will actually work with you.

Rocket stoves are the best! So efficient and use fuel that would otherwise be scrap.

If I lived in an area where cob houses were practical, I'd love to have one with a rocket thermal mass heater. Makes me feel cozy just to think about it!