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How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?

 
Lily o' the Valley

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03/27/2019 10:08 PM
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Say something bad.

See if a couple secret service fellas show up at your front door.

Problem answered.

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No necessarily. The also have all the information on you, all your friends, relatives, etc. The don't necessarily read all your e n.a. ail, but they keep it just in case. Two years down the line your brotherin law hets involved with a group of interest. They find a toss away cell phone bought 4 years ago when you were in New York on business at a Walgreen store. Y ou got it for your brother in law because he lost his and can't find one locally...it was used in planning an illegal activity. You are asked to come to the police station... They have all the pieces...

When somebody does something they really don't like, they go though all the people associated, making connections.

None of us can vouch for people 2 or 3 removed.
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03/27/2019 10:23 PM
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I just dont buy this FUD about three letter agencies running all VPNs. No evidence to support this. In fact many VPN have flat out told them they have no logs when data was requested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74670671

Routers log everything. Who needs an ISP's or VPN provider's logs when you have access to the raw data and control the root CA's?
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


Routers don't log everything. Only certain routers that are set up to keep logs do that. More FUD. How do you know they control the CA's? Again no proof just more speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77507411


even ISP grade routers do not have long term storage
they must dump the logs to a file at specified intervals
or the data is overwritten

root servers are all under the control of the gov.

the internet was and still is a military project and operation
 Quoting: KLC


This is the true bottom line. The military is always a couple of decades ahead of you. NSA ditto.
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"Damn the torpedos - full speed ahead" - Admiral David Farragut

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03/27/2019 10:25 PM
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Routers log everything. Who needs an ISP's or VPN provider's logs when you have access to the raw data and control the root CA's?
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


Routers don't log everything. Only certain routers that are set up to keep logs do that. More FUD. How do you know they control the CA's? Again no proof just more speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77507411


even ISP grade routers do not have long term storage
they must dump the logs to a file at specified intervals
or the data is overwritten

root servers are all under the control of the gov.

the internet was and still is a military project and operation
 Quoting: KLC


This is the true bottom line. The military is always a couple of decades ahead of you. NSA ditto.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Why do they want to make it illegal to use encryption then? If they know so much.
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03/27/2019 10:29 PM
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Routers log everything. Who needs an ISP's or VPN provider's logs when you have access to the raw data and control the root CA's?
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


Routers don't log everything. Only certain routers that are set up to keep logs do that. More FUD. How do you know they control the CA's? Again no proof just more speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77507411


even ISP grade routers do not have long term storage
they must dump the logs to a file at specified intervals
or the data is overwritten

root servers are all under the control of the gov.

the internet was and still is a military project and operation
 Quoting: KLC


This is the true bottom line. The military is always a couple of decades ahead of you. NSA ditto.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


This is something a brainwashed boomer would say. angryface
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03/27/2019 10:37 PM
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03/27/2019 10:40 PM

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Lot of FUD being spread here.
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03/27/2019 10:54 PM
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There ain't no hiding from them as all vpns can be tracked to the source and the NSA will be at your door if ya speak to much shit.
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03/28/2019 08:17 AM
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I always suspected that all routers have back door microcode that allows the NSA to download routing tables of VPN service providers. They scan for Key words in order to monitor you. I think the feds run the torrent servers and prono sites to keep us busy and also make us guilty of a crime that they could prosecute if they wanted to. No your MAC address doesnt go out on the web because it is as OSI Layer 1 where your modem is only sending/receiving TCP/IP packets at layer 4 ( for IP) and layer 5 ( for TCP packets).
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03/28/2019 08:19 AM
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Routers don't log everything. Only certain routers that are set up to keep logs do that. More FUD. How do you know they control the CA's? Again no proof just more speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77507411


even ISP grade routers do not have long term storage
they must dump the logs to a file at specified intervals
or the data is overwritten

root servers are all under the control of the gov.

the internet was and still is a military project and operation
 Quoting: KLC


This is the true bottom line. The military is always a couple of decades ahead of you. NSA ditto.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


This is something a brainwashed boomer would say. angryface
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77507411

How would you know, all you millenials know is how to use a smart phone.
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I don't get it.

How is it possible to track you down?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75358696


Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2019 08:26 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Who do you think invented IPs, VPN etc?

The military. Look it up.

If they invented it then guess what?
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