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Please show verifiable proof that something is about to hit the earth with that level of force. Again, it's like you're not even paying attention to the claim that calculation was refuting. I was specifically addressing the question of survivability, and the answer is that it is not survivable at all. If you think that that level of force is about to hit the earth, then by all means, present verifiable evidence, coordinates, or an orbit for an object that is about to do just such a thing to the earth. Of course this leads to the question of "Nibiru," which has already been debunked because it simply doesn't exist. If it did it would already be having impacts on the positions of the outer planets and it would already have to be well within the inner solar system.

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here you go asking for "Proof"

for a future unknown event. that goes against your known.

e.g.

something that hasn't happened before.

survivable is a term that can have different meanings.


If i was on a space ship when this "force event" occurred.

I would survive. Hence it's survivable.

I have the gathering here:

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There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs.

Please show verifiable proof that something is about to hit the earth with that level of force. Again, it's like you're not even paying attention to the claim that calculation was refuting. I was specifically addressing the question of survivability, and the answer is that it is not survivable at all. If you think that that level of force is about to hit the earth, then by all means, present verifiable evidence, coordinates, or an orbit for an object that is about to do just such a thing to the earth. Of course this leads to the question of "Nibiru," which has already been debunked because it simply doesn't exist. If it did it would already be having impacts on the positions of the outer planets and it would already have to be well within the inner solar system.


is this shill is talking about. What the fuck nibiru has to do with this thread!?!

HELLO WAKE UP you're dreming darling WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

And READ with sense.

Yes, I'm asking for proof that an object is about to subject the earth to that level of force. Such an object would have to be extremely massive making it quite hard to miss.

If you're going to claim that a physical pole shift is pending, then it's going to take "Nibiru" to explain where all that energy comes from.

"Survivable" doesn't mean you remove yourself from the situation altogether and, no surprise, you survive, yet that's exactly what you're doing in your example. It's like saying a nose dive with a 747 straight into the ground at maximum velocity is survivable... because you're not on the plane when it crashes.

Last Edited by Astromut on 01/06/2011 01:29 PM

That's assuming it has to be an object that fits our scientific view for force output.


What if it is an event/object/possibility, that produces force. In a manner which we haven't observed and recorded?


which you're ruling out, which makes me sad, because you seem to be in the science field.


the UNKNOWN cannot be factored into proof, for a possible future.


SO to say it CANNOT happen.

is like a bible thumper grasping to his book of facts.


Science is dynamic and ever changing due to new discovers of unknown events/data...

You don't know what are talking about! You're lost in your imaginations. And I 'smell' sneaky way to turn this thread into your 'waters' where you can talk about objects seen through your telescope. Sorry bye bye go and search for the word nibiru - THIS IS NOT here. Capish?

Ok i'll survive with in your example.


I have a force field that protects me from your force.


Oh wait you'll say we can't have force fields due to our knowledge of gravity.


Which is further dependent on our now known science.
Discounting change/evolution/unknown/chaos.

This is just what I was thinking... I even said it to my mom when I was talking to her on the phone yesterday. The reason it came to me was because of a video I was watching that has to do with theories on why the Bermuda Triangle is responsible for so many plane & ship disappearances... same thing -- methane. Birds lose buoyancy & plummet and fish suffocate & die.

There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs.


Since God is a god, that means he's eternal and infinite. Which means the Universe is infinite. Which means all that it contains is infinite. And since the Universe contains sharp cheddar cheese, that means there is an infinite amount of sharp cheddar cheese in the Universe. And since anything is possible, that means it is absolutely possible that a block of sharp cheddar cheese the size of our entire Solar System is RIGHT NOW hurtling towards Earth at the speed of light. PROVE IT'S NOT TRUE SHILL !!

very interesting story!

Handwaving to "magic."

Again, you're handwaving to "magic," you're not putting forward a shred of credible or verifiable evidence or even speculation. What if superman shows up and flips the planet with super powers, that's the level of your claim.

You don't even seem to understand what science is, you're clearly only interested in pseudoscience.

More handwaving to magic bullshit.

ME TOO. Glad to see others voice this... what I still don't get is why the birds were flying at night, but that's another post...

But THIS STORY, here and now, pole shift, is ALSO EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT.

I don't know WHERE, but I have heard tell that in northeastern Oregon there is a spot that geologists have been measuring for pole shift. And they have seen it too... the question is whether they see it as fast as this article claims. I believe this was told to me by an academic, and as such, is probably not widely circulated information.

Hahahah

the unknown is magic.

LOL

you clearly know nothing of science and its possibilities.

If you have a more credible idea for how such a level of force could be imparted to the earth, then by all means let's hear it. So far all I've seen is handwaving to magic. "Something happens that violates what we know about science." Well, I don't believe in magic, but if something is going to violate the laws of physics in that manner I'm open to evidence showing that it will. Instead the evidence shows that the pole is right where it should be and there's no reason to think that will change. It's literally as likely as superman showing up and changing it.

hahaha

The laws of science are various established scientific laws, or physical laws as they are sometimes called, that are considered universal and invariable facts of the physical universe. Laws of science may, however, be disproved if new facts or evidence contradicts them


What if new facts and evidence presents itself, that hasn't previously.


You're saying that can't happen and it magic.

Honestly there are no words...

Let's talk about science here.

Richard A. Lovett in San Francisco

for National Geographic News

December 24, 2009

Earth's north magnetic pole is racing toward Russia at almost 40 miles (64 kilometers) a year due to magnetic changes in the planet's core, new research says.

The core is too deep for scientists to directly detect its magnetic field. But researchers can infer the field's movements by tracking how Earth's magnetic field has been changing at the surface and in space.

Now, newly analyzed data suggest that there's a region of rapidly changing magnetism on the core's surface, possibly being created by a mysterious "plume" of magnetism arising from deeper in the core.

And it's this region that could be pulling the magnetic pole away from its long-time location in northern Canada, said Arnaud Chulliat, a geophysicist at the Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris in France.

Finding North

Magnetic north, which is the place where compass needles actually point, is near but not exactly in the same place as the geographic North Pole. Right now, magnetic north is close to Canada's Ellesmere Island.

Navigators have used magnetic north for centuries to orient themselves when they're far from recognizable landmarks.

Although global positioning systems have largely replaced such traditional techniques, many people still find compasses useful for getting around underwater and underground where GPS satellites can't communicate.

The magnetic north pole had moved little from the time scientists first located it in 1831. Then in 1904, the pole began shifting northeastward at a steady pace of about 9 miles (15 kilometers) a year.

In 1989 it sped up again, and in 2007 scientists confirmed that the pole is now galloping toward Siberia at 34 to 37 miles (55 to 60 kilometers) a year.

A rapidly shifting magnetic pole means that magnetic-field maps need to be updated more often to allow compass users to make the crucial adjustment from magnetic north to true North.

Wandering Pole

Geologists think Earth has a magnetic field because the core is made up of a solid iron center surrounded by rapidly spinning liquid metal. This creates a "dynamo" that drives our magnetic field.

Scientists had long suspected that, since the molten core is constantly moving, changes in its magnetism might be affecting the surface location of magnetic north.

Although the new research seems to back up this idea, Chulliat is not ready to say whether magnetic north will eventually cross into Russia.

"It's too difficult to forecast," Chulliat said.

Also, nobody knows when another change in the core might pop up elsewhere, sending magnetic north wandering in a new direction.

Chulliat presented his work this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

And THAT is science. Is it correct? Who knows!

No, what you're describing is magic and trying to label it as just simply "the unknown." You know what I see when I see you do that? I see you expose the fact that you are desperate to invent an excuse by which this ridiculous claim could happen. Being open to the unknown means being willing to follow the evidence wherever it leads, it does not mean handwaving to magical excuses to try to keep absolute bullshit afloat.

Then present these new facts and evidence. Otherwise you're just handwaving to magic to keep your bullshit afloat.

Hmm I don't believe in magic.

I believe in new evidence presenting itself that hasn't before, which pushes science to a new paradigm.

I'm not simply shrugging off a Hypothesis because there isn't evidence to support them yet.

In science, we form a hypothesis, perform tests to prove disprove the hypothesis.

If no test can be derived to test the hypothesis:

1. We don't have the means currently to derive a test.
2. At that point it is determined untestable and "false"

should Evidence present itself

We revisit and revise hypothesis to form theory.

You're saying there is no possibility of unknown evidence presenting itself.

Of course you won't admit that's what it really reduces to, but that doesn't change the fact that that is exactly what you're handwaving to.

You're pushing for a specific possibility that violates what we know, it is up to you to either present evidence for that claim or the claim falls. It's that simple.

That is not what I'm saying, in fact I specifically ruled out the possibility of you putting those words in my mouth with my last post. Either present this previously "unknown" evidence showing how a physical poleshift is possible or the claim falls. It doesn't stay afloat just because you would like to believe something will happen that violates everything we know in such a way as to make it possible. That's just an appeal to magic. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You don't even have regular proof here, let alone extraordinary.

Willie: Yeah? What about mommy?
Kid: She lives in God's house; with Jesus and Mary and the ghost and the long eared donkey and the talking walnut.


If you want that crap bad enough, you'll believe anything to keep the bullshit afloat -- Nibiru, Pole Shift, Pleadians -- Anything.

Seeing as we're still finding new neighbors.

[link to www.space.com]

There is the possibility of a large body coming within proximity of our planet, to capture earth in it's gravity.

During this capture in its orbit the earth would undergo changes in force, perhaps pole, etc.

Or even if it doesn't have us rotate around us, it could come close enough where it's gravity throws off ours. producing unknown events.

To rule out the possibility of an unknown planet/body that comes through our solar system is not possible.

As we can't even find all the asteroids in our possible orbital path.

FYI 12-21-12 is fucking real.

There is nothing about believing here. For this need to go to church. Do scientists believe in God? Some for sure.

Anyway, this thread is ooold and spoiled

please move on
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